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11 Sep 2024 11:55:55
Datro fofana on loan for Athens. 20m buy option.
He had a good spell at Burnley, but I'm not surprised we struggled to find a better loan for him.
1.) 12 Sep 2024 10:32:51
Nope, another deal that's off. Christ, we really are a mess.
2.) 12 Sep 2024 11:54:02
Why is the deal not going through a reflection of CFC and require the comment “we are a mess? ”
I have no idea why an agreement couldn’t be reached so therefore I can’t say if any side is to blame but it’s hardly unusual that clubs can’t agree on a transfer or loan deal.
Every club must have loads of transfers deals that fell through because an agreement couldn’t be reached, they must all be “a mess. ” All very sad.
{Ed002's Note - AEK are responsible for it falling through.}
3.) 12 Sep 2024 11:59:35
Ed, brilliant mate thanks.
4.) 12 Sep 2024 12:31:00
He is trolling again Tom.
5.) 12 Sep 2024 12:48:12
It’s just non stop criticism of the owners without knowing any facts.
Be critical when it’s deserved.
6.) 12 Sep 2024 22:23:27
Thanks for that info Ed.
And we're a mess because we have copious players we're unable to find clubs for. We still have chilwell, Washington, fofana, kellyman
and chukwuemeka and casadaei at the club, none who will see the pitch.
I personally think that's a fair criticism, as I've said before we simply have too many players.
7.) 12 Sep 2024 22:56:16
Your criticism was about a player not getting a loan with an option to buy. You jumped to a conclusion because you believed it worked for your continuous narrative against the owners.
Your very pointed criticism on this particular issue was wide of the mark and now you bring up a different topic to try and justify it.
As I posted “be critical when it’s deserved. ”.
8.) 13 Sep 2024 11:49:17
I see he has secured a loan now. I think the bigger question regarding DDF is whether he is a better player and therefore more useful to Chelsea than Guiu?
Personally I would have said yes.
9.) 13 Sep 2024 12:15:03
I can’t say I’ve seen a lot of Fofana or Guiu but if had to choose, I would go for Guiu.
How amazing our owners must be to find a club for Fofana on agreeable terms. ?.
10.) 13 Sep 2024 12:32:46
Tom lad it had nothing to do about an option. It was the fact that another deal fell through.
Looks like we were swift to get him another loan, but I think even the club will be dissapointed to not sell him on for a profit this year after a decent loan spell at Burnley. Though, as I said, I believe it's complete naivety to believe we can flip these players after a year for a profit. A belief that maybe true depending on your outlook. We have copious players we have been unable to find a move for.
11.) 13 Sep 2024 15:44:25
You said in reference to the failed loan of Fofana “Christ, WE really are a mess. ” Your comment had zero to do with any other player but you couldn’t wait to have a dig at the owners. That is just a plain fact.
As I understand it we have sold, loaned or released 41 players so far in this window. Of course it would have been good to sell or loan a few more but 41 seems an above average number to me but then again I’m not a transfer expert.
Anyone can “hunt” out a reason to be critical. I guess the reverse must be true.
12.) 13 Sep 2024 22:15:29
Mate, getting really tired of you telling other posters what they're thinking and the reason behind there posts. You have no idea what my reasoning was and if you want to make up a reason, go for it. It's getting very tiresome though.
It is literally very obvious by reading the reasoning behind we are a mess and that is because the players we've been unable to offload or have paid to offload.
And further, part of my post was actually edited out. So again, please stop assuming you know other people's reasonings and get off your high horse.
13.) 14 Sep 2024 02:54:21
Maybe stop coming on here and talking rubbish then. The eds have said numerous times that it wasn't chelsea that was the issue.
Re Gallagher "he didn't want to sign a contract"
Fofana "it was Athens issue"
You come on here like a petulant child as soon as you here some bad news. Then change your mind in what you actually said.
Re calling caicedo a "donkey" so in my eyes your the one getting tiresome.
14.) 14 Sep 2024 06:28:41
No problem jsfinchy. If you don't want to have a discussion with people that disagree with you, interesting choice to go onto a forum discussing a football club. In the real world people disagree, you should maybe get better at talking to those who disagree.
And to reiterate my point as you clearly misunderstood, I'm criticising chelsea buying 100's of players and struggling to offload them. It's completely irrelevant whether it's an issue with us or the other party. We wouldn't be having issues offloading players if we had a clear and concise plan in place.
15.) 14 Sep 2024 06:58:27
I wouldn’t have a clue what you are thinking and response was clearly about and only what was writing your post.
I repeat. Supposedly Chelsea have sold, loaned or released 41 players in the last window. Yes it would have nice to find playing homes for just a few more but there is another window in a few months and I’m sure some more transfer business will be completed.
16.) 15 Sep 2024 07:28:29
Which is a big feat tom so well done to them for them sales/ loans.
However, if we didn't buy so many players in the first place, we could have spent more energy building cohesion and chasing targets who improve the team.
17.) 15 Sep 2024 08:36:58
I’ve lost count of the times I have said to many signings done to quickly but generally I think our old squad looked tired or maybe to comfortable.
18.) 15 Sep 2024 10:49:07
You are correct Tom. The old squad needed a refresh and with the sanctions it was also a very difficult time. Yes, too many signings in too few windows but that will now slow down. Players will come and go and these owners are not shy to spend their money and I fully expect 2 more windows of activity. They are winners and highly motivated by success and won't stop until we return to the top table.
19.) 16 Sep 2024 09:23:56
WSOTS, I think the signings might well slow down but I still think we will be selling a few with the likes of Noni, Disasi, Chilly, Sterling and maybe Mudryk all likely to be sold or loaned over the next two windows in my opinion.
20.) 18 Sep 2024 07:48:34
FFS Standard, " buying 100's of players " as per your quote on here, get real mate, the club and the people they have employed are much more aware than you or i could ever wish to be!
27 Aug 2024 14:28:37
Chelsea making a move for Toney! If osimhen is demanding wages too excessive toney will be an excellent option! Him and Jackson can compete and after Jackson's performance against wolves, toney will have to be at his best.
Hope this one happens!
1.) 27 Aug 2024 16:02:49
Perhaps Saudi Arabia is a more probable destination.
Is there any truth to Calwert Lewin rumours? Wouldn't be a bad back up striker although I like Guiu for that role too.
2.) 27 Aug 2024 18:51:29
Toney would be way down my list of CF options. Mind you there is a gap between Osimhen and the rest in my opinion.
3.) 27 Aug 2024 22:50:49
I’d be happy enough with Toney within the wage structure - if we have to buy someone! I’m still a fan of Jackson, but I think Toney has a good all round game.
4.) 28 Aug 2024 02:01:51
Not sure Toneys wage demands are any less than Osimhens.
5.) 28 Aug 2024 16:57:39
Tom, Toney wouldn’t even be on my list. His numbers aren’t that good particularly if you strip away penalties. His first touch is poor; he is not an 18 yard box striker he goes deep and would clutter up our midfield. He has averaged 1.3 headed goals a season over the last 4 years. If Oshimen is out of reach stick with what we have and look again next summer.
6.) 28 Aug 2024 17:43:28
Jimbo, I agree. Plus It’s early stages but Guiu loooks ok to me.
7.) 28 Aug 2024 20:55:55
400k a week is on offer for Toney in Saudi. He can have a lot of fun gambling with that kind of money.
26 Aug 2024 23:39:27
Hey Ed around last week you said there would be plenty of departures and about one a day. Since then, it looks like a couple have been agreed but nothing concrete. Now, it looks Iike broja has fell through.
Are we still confident in selling over 10 players before the window shuts?
{Ed002's Note - Players will continue to depart.}
1.) 27 Aug 2024 13:13:37
Three players out the door already today . Kepa, Anjorin and Lukaku.
2.) 28 Aug 2024 09:28:30
And Gallagher gone too of course.
22 May 2024 09:31:09
Again, seeing many links to tuchel. Surely not true.
I've calmed down a bit, but still massively dissapointed. They have to get this appointment bang on.
1.) 22 May 2024 13:00:25
Young manager they said.
Ruben Amorim --- the club must have met with him?
Hansi Flick --- nope
Vincent Kompany --- nope
Kieran McKenna – yes, but I hope he stays with the tractor boys
Jose Mourinho – Turkey
Julian Nagelsmann ---- His contract with the German team expires after the Euros
Michel Sanchez – meh
Thomas Tuchel – yes, but I cannot see it
Roberto de Zerbi -- nope
Massimiliano Allegri --- has been lurning English for years, but nope
Carlo Ancelotti -- extended his contract with Real Madrid to June 2026.
2.) 22 May 2024 13:21:25
Pretty sure nagelsmann extended his contract with Germany celery.
3.) 22 May 2024 14:07:46
I wonder if the Amorim flight to the UK was linked to Chelsea - the club were very quick to deny it at the time.
Another name in the frame could be Porto boss Sergio Conceicao.
I would like Flick, but that's because I think he has the experience.
I'm also disappointed that they chose not to continue with Poch, I was looking forward to a summer of stability while other big clubs chopped and changed, now I feel we're a bit back to square one.
4.) 22 May 2024 14:15:41
How does TT fit into the remit of a young progressive coach? Plus he plays the most boring football ever.
Mind you hecdid great things at Bayern, never finished so low in their league, marvelous achievement from TT.
5.) 22 May 2024 14:45:02
Same Standard i've just about managed to calm myself down, lol.
11 May 2024 04:19:22
As good as we have been the last two weeks and as good as it feels, let's not forget it's been a touch over two weeks since getting decimated 5-0 by arsenal. Still lots of work to do in the lead up to next season.
Any update on any potential signings ed?
{Ed002's Note - I am not aware of anything changing.}
1.) 11 May 2024 10:40:05
If I remember correctly we have lost once in the last 10/ 12 games. That defeat hurt but so did some of the draws but generally we are showing signs of improvement/ progress.
I think today’s game will be difficult and so I remain just hopeful.
I did see that we are top of one league and that’s the games missed through injury. We are top of that league by some distance. Along with the addition of just a few players, I’m hopeful our continued injury issues improve dramatically next season.
2.) 11 May 2024 11:07:57
Totally agree Tom, we cannot have that injury record again, even Pep and Klopp would have struggled.
3.) 11 May 2024 13:10:02
Not even just top by days missed we’ve had double the number of actual injuries too, so sounds like we’re picking up both long term injuries plus multiple short term injuries.
4.) 11 May 2024 22:42:30
it was a cruel defeat standard but let's give this group an manager credit when its deserved, theyv bounced back and are really looking like a team now.
5.) 13 May 2024 20:48:03
Sorry Ed if I'm wrong but please you have helped with a list as you have to other pages to our jealousy. I know you have occasionally mentioned a few but not long one as in the other pages.
We're patiently waiting for when you have the time to provide us with any clear that will stop us from asking often and random questions in the future. I remember you were kind enough to help. Please I think it will help improve your cordial interaction on our page. Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - It is impossible to do on the Chelsea page as it always leads to abuse.}
6.) 15 May 2024 16:29:14
Ed I respect your views and I plead that you don't misunderstand it like I'm insisting. I visit other pages regularly and it's difficult for me to see much difference in the way they respond to transfers and how Chelsea page do.
Please I still think ours is treated differently. Please appeal that you tolerate us as well. The site is boring without your inputs, especially I transfer windows. We crave your inputs especially now that most of us are yet to understand the direction of the club with boely and Co.
Please help us. thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I am happy to give input but I am not providing lists because it always leads to people abusing players.}
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31 Aug 2024 12:17:21
Sancho spells the end of mudryk. I quite like sancho again so I'm not going to complain about his signing though again, it doesn't make any sense banishing sterling, paying half his wages and then bringing in sancho.
However, we surely just have to cut our losses on mudryk. Was it seriously 80m pounds? How on earth did he cost that much. anyway, the mistake has been made and done and it is what it is.
Welcome sancho!
1.) 31 Aug 2024 13:04:48
Standard, are we paying half Sterlings wages? Has there been a loan fee?
I wouldn’t have a clue but to be honest I’m not that bothered. If our manager didn’t want him that’s good enough for me and beat for the player.
If he plays well at gooner land it’s a double edged sword. Helping the gooners against getting a future big transfer fee.
2.) 31 Aug 2024 22:58:01
You're not bothered that we're paying sterling half of his wages for him to contribute to a rival? Strange.
3.) 01 Sep 2024 04:34:18
I’ve not seen anything that’s said we’re paying half of Sterlings wages?
4.) 01 Sep 2024 07:05:52
Standard, they were just simple questions. Are we paying half of Sterlings wages? Was there a loan fee?
I personally haven’t seen the structure of his loan move to gooner land.
I’m only “guessing” but I would assume the gooners are paying something towards his salary? So I assume it could be argued that they are supporting a rival in reducing its wage bill.
Of course that is just me “guessing. ”.
5.) 01 Sep 2024 07:59:51
Just read an article in the athletic and they say we have received no loan fee and we are paying a substantial part of his wages. They also say the player turned down a lucrative move to Saudi.
As I have said already the manager didn’t want him and it’s better to get something rather than nothing with him not being involved in the managers plans.
I think he will do well for the gooners and if he does they, or another club can pay a transfer fee as it appears there is no obligation to buy.
30 Aug 2024 12:46:18
Looks like sancho is on. we are winger fc lol.
1.) 30 Aug 2024 13:09:44
Great
We have needed an experienced no.9 all window and our priority is a player Man U don't want and we certainy don't need.
2.) 30 Aug 2024 13:24:36
It is what it is bill. We had glorious days under Roman. It's been bad decision after bad decision under the new owners but it could always be worse.
3.) 30 Aug 2024 16:37:43
Sancho better than mudryk.
30 Aug 2024 11:58:58
Running out of time for all these sales we need to make.
30 Aug 2024 04:50:50
My old mate from school told me his mates dad knows the grounds keeper at chelsea and has said a deal for osimhen is all agreed and he'll be unveiled later tomorrow as a chelsea player on a loan with a mandatory buy clause in the contract. Told its a 7 year deal also.
25 Aug 2024 13:53:26
Reading another lavia injury.
1.) 25 Aug 2024 14:35:31
Yes hamstring.
2.) 25 Aug 2024 16:42:39
Supposedly very slight should be fit for next week. Sounds like more of a precaution.
3.) 25 Aug 2024 17:29:36
Good news Tom thanks for it.
4.) 26 Aug 2024 21:25:05
I think Palmer should play in 10 role. Leaving only 2 spaces in starting eleven for Enzo, Latvia, Caicedo.
15 Sep 2024 07:28:29
Which is a big feat tom so well done to them for them sales/ loans.
However, if we didn't buy so many players in the first place, we could have spent more energy building cohesion and chasing targets who improve the team.
14 Sep 2024 06:28:41
No problem jsfinchy. If you don't want to have a discussion with people that disagree with you, interesting choice to go onto a forum discussing a football club. In the real world people disagree, you should maybe get better at talking to those who disagree.
And to reiterate my point as you clearly misunderstood, I'm criticising chelsea buying 100's of players and struggling to offload them. It's completely irrelevant whether it's an issue with us or the other party. We wouldn't be having issues offloading players if we had a clear and concise plan in place.
13 Sep 2024 22:15:29
Mate, getting really tired of you telling other posters what they're thinking and the reason behind there posts. You have no idea what my reasoning was and if you want to make up a reason, go for it. It's getting very tiresome though.
It is literally very obvious by reading the reasoning behind we are a mess and that is because the players we've been unable to offload or have paid to offload.
And further, part of my post was actually edited out. So again, please stop assuming you know other people's reasonings and get off your high horse.
13 Sep 2024 12:32:46
Tom lad it had nothing to do about an option. It was the fact that another deal fell through.
Looks like we were swift to get him another loan, but I think even the club will be dissapointed to not sell him on for a profit this year after a decent loan spell at Burnley. Though, as I said, I believe it's complete naivety to believe we can flip these players after a year for a profit. A belief that maybe true depending on your outlook. We have copious players we have been unable to find a move for.
12 Sep 2024 22:23:27
Thanks for that info Ed.
And we're a mess because we have copious players we're unable to find clubs for. We still have chilwell, Washington, fofana, kellyman
and chukwuemeka and casadaei at the club, none who will see the pitch.
I personally think that's a fair criticism, as I've said before we simply have too many players.
17 Sep 2024 10:41:15
Emil, the censorship comment made me laugh. Some very upset people on here.
16 Sep 2024 23:14:17
He's looking great for them isn't he, with a lot of energy. I think he'd be perfect for this team, worth a 65m bid in January?
16 Sep 2024 12:34:43
I don't think chalobah will want to tom. He's been beyond disrespected.
Regarding our forwards, I think we have very high calibre forwards. I think felix was a smart pick-up, as was sancho. I don't quite understand why we signed so many, and the neto transfer still doesn't make sense, though I haven't really seen him too much so I will reserve judgement.
Sancho/ Neto as options on the left, Palmer/ Madueke on the right and Nkunku, Jackson as Felix as the forwards is quite strong. That doesn't leave the 80m man a spot (mudryk) but he definitely needs a loan, and probably a 2 year one at that. Coming to a club who were in a mess after the terrible situation he was in in his own country was not a recipe for success. I think mudryk has a lot of potential so I hope he can get a year or two loan in Dortmund.
10 Sep 2024 13:35:10
It's all just complete naivety in my opinion tom. All of this mess was so easily preventable by simply utilising the incredible academy players and system we had at the club. We needed a few positions strengthened, and the rest could have been filled by existing squad players. For whatever reason though, we stripped everything off, literally everything, and started from scratch. To me it still doesn't make a lick of sense.
10 Sep 2024 13:32:29
I was referring to all the leaks and parties putting into the media there side of the story. It simply embarrassing regardless.
But that's okay if I am wrong, from what I see from well run organisations, including well run football clubs, this simply doesn't happen.