Chelsea Banter Archive February 01 2020

01 Feb 2020 20:36:36
thoughts on cho again today?

01 Feb 2020 20:57:23
Started superb but faded more and more as the game went on, needs to set the same standard for 90 minutes.

01 Feb 2020 21:17:40
Started average and got worse needs to step up to the plate and soon.

{Ed047's Note - he was getting pelters on the radio commentary I listened too, apparently Chilwell was continually roasting him.

01 Feb 2020 21:24:22
He looked like he started very well (kept Chilwell back) in the first half but faded away in the second half (like he lost concentration) . There's no doubt that the talent is there, he just has to humble himself and work very hard (I believe he will get there) but I think he's still quite raw at the moment. He should work on his press and runs (esp behind defenders when there's a transition to attack from the midfield) . Well he's still a kid and his stamina is still growing.
He's good one-V-one and, so I think he should work to improve other parts of his game esp his game without the ball.

01 Feb 2020 23:13:31
Started well, completely missed the ball for a first time shot which was embarrassing, has spells of being really good and others of not being in the game at all.

02 Feb 2020 00:51:29
He was decent but i'd like to see him on the left more often. I understand him and Reece can link up well on the right but you take away the option for him to cut in and shoot. End product isn't great yet so i wouldn't expect him to be banging in goals every game but i think he'd definitely look a lot better.

02 Feb 2020 10:31:38
I only saw the second half but Chilwell had him in his pocket for that period.

01 Feb 2020 16:48:40
Thoughts on Tammy guys? We do need a new striker. I'm a Tammy fan but don't think he's top level quality although our wingers don't create enough chances. Dembele seems number one target but I'd like to see the club go for Raul Jimenez if it was up to me. Still early days for Tammy so I think an experienced complete striker like Jimenez would teach him more also.

01 Feb 2020 17:23:50
has to be some1 clinical if your talking about replacing tammy some1 clinical like werner etc but your not gaurenteed hel be clinical in pl. we need to concentrate on a world class winger or potentially rising world class winger . JADON SANCHO number 1 target. i would take jiminez to challenge tammy . id also look for a creative midfielder who l take d burden off tammy a bit an chip in with goals something d current crop can't seem to do.

01 Feb 2020 17:37:40
I think Tammy is still learning his craft; I guess no striker hits his prime at age 22. Based on what he has done so far, I give him pass mark.

01 Feb 2020 17:53:26
As a PS to post have just sent in defending TA - who is surely one of the better young strikers around - I would still like to see Giroud used more in remaining part of the season not least featuring in Bayern Munich games where his European experience v valuable and of course CFC to bring in additional fire power in form of likes of Timo W. and Sancho in the summer.

01 Feb 2020 18:08:36
Not sure why but my first post not on before my PS but the point was that the article in Pride of London (9 November last year) was arguing that statistically TA in very good company with those strikers who score a lot of goals as a result of taking a lot of shots and getting into many positions to score even if missing chances. Apparently in Champions League TA conversion rate v low, but still above Messi's and Ronaldo's. though may be hard to believe.

01 Feb 2020 18:28:47
We're talking about a young player who has been involved in 16 goals in the league this season (13 goals and three assists) . He is only going to get better.

It's short sighted to want to replace him, but he needs help and another striker who can score goals playing alongside him.

I posted a week or so ago about fans changing opinions on our young players over the course of the season. From just hoping they get a chance, to thinking they're top quality and then thinking they're never going to be good enough.

Tammy and Mason Mount are the two that seem to have been targeted the most with negativity. Too many fans are concerned about immediate success and not building a team for the future.

01 Feb 2020 18:34:52
Agree J this is a building process with a young team and manager though all want some additional quality in terms of attacking/ scoring firepower added in the summer.

01 Feb 2020 19:32:01
Let me tell you which player makes an immediate impact at Chelsea - Jack Grealish. The guys is absolutely brilliant.

01 Feb 2020 20:15:09
Tammy is still young and has shown plenty of the range of skills needed to be a top class striker. Interestingly, his conversion rate when compared to others may not be as bad as some - including me - have sometimes wondered when seeing him miss a great chance/ s (as happened again today) .

Here's a link below (from Pride of London) though to a piece comparing him with some other top strikers, reflecting that he does have poor conversion rate in Champion's League but that Messi does too! So clearly it's also about how/ whether a striker can get into positions to miss as well as score if this makes sense.

But point is that top teams usually have considerable goal threats from a range of players and more than one trusted striker and at the moment so much of the burden of expectation on TA given lack of assistance in this respect is to play every important game and score more often than he does.

tammy abraham shooting percentages

01 Feb 2020 20:36:08
like i keep saying the rest of the team needs to chip in with goals to take the pressure off tammy he can be and he will be good enough.

01 Feb 2020 21:24:50
Unless things improve we must sign a first choice top striker and let Tammy develop at a slower pace.
He has been grossly overplayed for his first season at the top level which has been obvious for a few months now.
Likewise someone good enough to start in Mounts role who hasn't delivered a goal or assist for months.
Similar situation with CHO.
The only youth player who looks capable of featuring regularly is Reece.

02 Feb 2020 00:17:17
hard to disagree there turvey but again i think for the first goal james got caught a bit flat footed an it allowed the shot away he can be beaten a little easy at times when some1 drops the shoulder in the box and changes direction but he's learning and i don't blane him too much for that goal to he fair just making a point hel keep learning defensively and its were he probably needs improving on slightely as his forward play and crossing is phenominal the kid has ridicolous talent.

02 Feb 2020 11:14:00
As we were looking at Werner, Cavani and Mertens, I think we will be bringing in a player that can also play wide - this will allow Tammy to continue as No.1 CF but also have cover.

01 Feb 2020 12:46:03
Seeing a lot of doom and gloom from various Chelsea places (and no I don't have twitter but maybe that's where it has started! ) saying that it's all well and good wanting to not overpay and not wanting to sign mediocrity, but that we aren't going to be able to get the top targets that we want in the summer if we don't get top 4, and that the teams around us all strengthening makes that much more difficult. I'm just wondering, Ed, if you can tell us how much the whole "top 4 finish" really affects a club's transfer activity outside of the money (which I understand is significantly improved getting into the champions league. Liverpool for instance built a lot of their current juggernaut of a team with signings made from outside the top 4 if I'm not mistaken? Thanks Ed.

{Ed002's Note - It makes it easier to attract players if CL is on offer.}

01 Feb 2020 15:02:34
Ed002, you already gave a list of players that Chelsea are looking at, but would you be kind enough to say which positions in particular will need to be addressed?

{Ed002's Note - I gave you a list with positions included. There is no spearate "in particular" list. Of those players some will no longer be there (e.g. Bruno Guimaraes and Reinier Jesus) and others will come in to contention. If players decide to leave the club will also need to decide where is stands.}

01 Feb 2020 15:30:30
So I just need to compare the INCOMING and OUTGOING lists then.
Thanks Ed!

01 Feb 2020 13:16:32
Am i the only 1 that notices rudiger must lose possession about 20 times every game he has no composure what so ever every time he gets the ball he tries a hollywood pass an loses possession 9 times out of 10 surely the coaching staff must have told him after well over half a season working with him start playing it simple. good performance overall missing chances as galore do and wel end up losing 1-0 again.

01 Feb 2020 14:03:58
he mite lose possession a lot but boy i should moan about him more d way he's scoring.

01 Feb 2020 11:17:08
Hey ed that's for your continued updates throughout jan and onwards, I'm sure I speak for everyone it's very much appreciated
Hope you had a good drink not transfer window shut.

My personal opinion I'm glad for once we didn't panic buy had targets didn't come to fruition and unfortunately didn't strengthen. But few injury free runs I think we will be ok.

{Ed002's Note - The club were never going to over pay for players. That was the issue.}

01 Feb 2020 13:15:00
Ed002, surely this will be the same issue in the Summer then; if it is the case of Chelsea wanting to dictate the price in a seller’s market?

The likes of Sancho, Chilwell, Werner will all not suddenly droop in value nor will their clubs turn around and say “help yourselves” in June.

if anything, their hyper inflated prices will only be more inflated given the Euros. So it is then a case of Chelsea having to shop in the tier two/ three market and try to get players who “may” be good/ or who are slightly past their peak.

All in all, it does not make for great reading when Chelsea refuse to pay the going rate, because it ultimately means we can forget about signing first choice options.

{Ed002's Note - Everything you have written is just rubbish.}

01 Feb 2020 14:30:39
CFC5091

Who did we miss out on? The player you've listed were not avaialble to anyone.

The players we were linked with appear to have been overpriced.

I can think of two players that moved that could have been options for us. Haaland (who was very expensive for youngster) and maybe the chap from Brentford (would have been a big gamble) apart from that, nobody.

If we'd missed out om someone I'd undertsand, but I think that this window was always looking difficult.

{Ed002's Note - It is trash - nothing he said is true and he simply does not understand the situation.}

01 Feb 2020 15:33:42
CFC5091 - are you familiar with the term "negotiations"?

01 Feb 2020 07:37:10
Good morning guys; I honestly prefer us not signing any one than signing someone that isn't good enough. It will be difficult qualifying for the UCL (fourth place) next season but I think our players can fight to make it happen- sure that'll lead to a lot of them improving even more.
* Giroud can bring something, I think he should be given more playing time.
It is clear to all now that - good players cost good money, and clubs around us are/ have strengthened. I just hope we can strengthen very well in the summer.

01 Feb 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 1st February 2020

01 Feb 2020 01:21:54
Why hasn't my post gone up about olive Ed? 🤔.

{Ed033's Note - This is not an 'On The Buses' tribute page you know. :)

01 Feb 2020 03:08:51
FairPlay Ed 😂 it’s just I heard G8 say not long ago that Olive said there would be two new signings and now I’m wondering where they are, I think the paperwork must be going through really late 🤷🏼‍♂️.

01 Feb 2020 03:09:43
I’m more of a Blakey fan myself 😄.