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08 Aug 2025 09:42:10
How do you all feel about Garnacho, it seems there may be a deal about to happen?
1.) 08 Aug 2025 10:55:59
Not thrilled mate. Supposed dressing-room leak of tactics when not on the teamsheet, briefing on Twitter/ Instagram through his brother etc. Looks a bad apple to me. Footballing-wise, seemed to have a lot of promise a couple of years ago, looked decent when I saw him play, but no game intelligence. Never head up, never a well-timed pass. Blind alleys and wild shots.
Feels kind of like replacing Madueke with a slightly less-good-at-football, much-worse-attitude version.
Then again, United is a hard club to look good at right now. Lots of players seem to be doing better away from the club.
More interestingly, AJH, how do you feel about Garnacho? Any potential there still, or surprised we're interested?
2.) 08 Aug 2025 11:04:30
More importantly AJH what do you think of him? I read that Paul Scholes thinks it would be a huge mistake to sell him as he has all the ingredients to be a top player and when Amorim is sacked mid season for being out of his depth the next manager might want to use him? but I know nothing about him myself.
3.) 08 Aug 2025 11:41:25
I think most Chelsea fans aren’t to happy, me personally I would be I do think he needs to wynd his neck in a little.
Saying this though I like players that go past people and if he can sort the attitude situation out and put his head down and work hard I think he could be a good team player.
4.) 08 Aug 2025 11:59:06
I think I mentioned this in an earlier post but I recently met with up with a group of ST holders who seemed to think that he becomes a good player with no baggage at around £20-30m. I found those comments rather strange.
Virtually all of the Utd fans I have spoken to think he is a talented player with a poor attitude.
5.) 08 Aug 2025 12:10:33
I don’t see where he plays, I don’t see any position in the attacking roles where he’d be first or even second choice. Apparently the club have done their due diligence and have no concerns about his attitude, but is he going to be happy as a bench warmer? He’s certainly made some questionable decisions, in how he’s gone about being unsettled at United. But, I suppose, it isn’t reasonable to expect a 21 year old to make perfect decisions, just because they’re a footballer.
6.) 08 Aug 2025 12:44:17
J, I don’t see the why we would sign both Simmons and Garnacho.
We may we have to play around 65 games this season. So, I think that all the player will get game time. It’s up to them all to impress the manager and make mae sure they are first choice.
7.) 08 Aug 2025 12:52:58
Completely ruins the transfer window for me…just managing to clear the deadwood in the squad and we’re just making similar mistakes all over again… a guy noy good enough for a side that came 15th and couldn't score a goal all season…shocking business.
8.) 08 Aug 2025 13:23:51
He splits opinion. He was the next big thing but hasn't really pushed on. He is clearly very talented but seems to be a bad influence, and whilst United have a LOT of issues, players with dodgy attitudes has been a problem.
In the right dressing room, with the right Manager, I think he could be really successful, but when a player has a dodgy attitude, you never can tell.
9.) 08 Aug 2025 13:42:48
Thanks AJH. Would you fall more on the 'talented, can make a success if he knuckles down' or the 'not worth the risk' side of things?
10.) 08 Aug 2025 13:46:55
AJH, maybe a divorce would benefit both parties. It would appear that your manager and the club have devalued his financial worth along with “his” attitude towards both.
If we do decide to sign him, I would like to think he would have been told about our code of conduct and we now have a manager who appears to be a bit of a disciplinarian.
11.) 08 Aug 2025 14:23:23
Thanks for clearly well considered opinion AJH . persuasive.
12.) 08 Aug 2025 16:12:44
I like him, I'm gutted he's going, he was the shining light of the youth team and we expected big things. For whatever reason, he hasn't been delivering and the Manager wants him gone.
Look at Rashford. He has been shocking for us, yet Barcelona want him. If the talent is there, there's always a chance the right Manager can draw it out.
United has been a car crash for many years, the Manager is having a clear out so maybe Garnacho will step up elsewhere. Are you sure we can't also interest you in Sancho?
13.) 08 Aug 2025 17:39:06
AJH, love the sales pitch. Actually Sancho was ok for us last season.
I also think you need Sterling, Chilly and Disasi.
14.) 08 Aug 2025 17:49:37
AJH, no thanks but we will take Anthony for £80 million: we are short of forwards.
15.) 08 Aug 2025 18:10:42
Garnacho a hard guy to warm to Ido like players with pace but I am not sure we need him but like always time will tell.
16.) 09 Aug 2025 00:13:05
Sancho was absolutely rubbish for us last season a few decent goals otherwise below bang average.
08 Dec 2019 12:15:16
🎶🎵 Who’s that coming over the hill, is it United? Yes it’s United 🎵🎶.
I think the battle for 4th could get very interesting. Spurs will have a bounce with a new Manager, Arsenal might if they make a sensible appointment, you’ve looked good all season, and it looks like we might have finally woken up. Pretty sad that we both might be fighting for 4th, not like the old days eh?
1.) 08 Dec 2019 13:26:06
It's TRUE that we have been dragged into this top 4 fight. At one point we seemed so far away from the chasing pack. But look we've had some bad results recently and we are expecting a few more. Utd and Spurs have definitely capitalised on our failures.
2.) 08 Dec 2019 13:27:32
I think it’ll be close and agree, think United problem is that chelsea city spurs Leicester arsenal all played you they have a way of playing and with attack, which suits you, hence why v Newcastle and wolves etc teams like that don’t care about attractive football and will defend, so rashford and James and martial pace isn’t key with the space to run into, arsenal are so low I’m not overly worried with them, spurs will be very dangerous and once they stop the soft goals they’ll go in a big run,
3.) 08 Dec 2019 13:42:04
I think it's going to be a good run in 4 teams going for 2 spots and city not going well peps 4th season again not going well
But I think spurs will finish above you.
4.) 08 Dec 2019 13:55:26
The most injury ravaged season for some time and a transfer ban to deal with.
Rudi to come back and the team gradually bedding in.
A new face or two over January.
The second half of our season should be better than the first.
Good luck UTD. The longer you keep Ole the better for us all.
5.) 08 Dec 2019 16:00:36
Harsh mate. We have been in such a mess we need to stick with someone. I get why everyone thinks he’s a clueless novice, we shall see. It seems the top 3 are pretty much sorted so it will be a dog fight for 4th. I actually think our best chance is via the Europa League, we do better against better teams.
22 Sep 2019 06:38:17
I know it’s early days but I like what I’m seeing from Lampard, he seems to be doing what we were hoping OGS would do for us. Mount and Abraham seem to have really stepped up, I’ve been surprised how good they have been. Wouldn’t it be ironic if a young team that includes some Academy players does really well given the reluctance of previous Managers to play any of them.
Big game today, someone needs to bring City and Liverpool down a peg or two as right now it looks like a battle for 1st between them, and a battle for 3rd and 4th between about 8 other clubs. I’d love to see Liverpool lose but as they are so far it of reach for us, is it better for United to see Chelsea drop points. Nah, I’m really hoping you stuff them today.
1.) 22 Sep 2019 13:53:25
Cheers AJH, I think we’re all excited about how far the youth can take us. Inexperience has cost us at times this season but equally Mount and Abraham look like our best players. As for the Liverpool game, if we had Kanté I’d be far more confident, especially as we were the better side in the Super Cup but as it stands I’m a bit nervous.
2.) 22 Sep 2019 14:57:14
Thanks, AJH. Wouldn't blame you for supporting Pool today, but as a United fan I suppose you want Pool to lose no matter the situation ;-)
I'd personally be happy with a draw even. Liverpool look amazing so far, and while our play has been refreshing, the results have been mixed. Our defensive play should improve loads once Rudiger, Kante, Emerson and James are fit again, so I won't judge Lampard on that aspect until he's had his full squad to work with.
Been saying it from the start btw, but Ole really is a dud as a manager. Without Pogba to bring a semblance of creativity to your game, all you do is counter. You really need a better coach. Giving chances to youth is all well and good, and as a fan I love to see it happen as well. But it needs to happen in the right situation and in the right way. You definitely shouldn't have sold Lukaku without replacing him. Greenwood is a fantastic talent, but having him as your backup striker for PL play is asking for trouble. He can't replace a guy like Lukaku who guarantees you goals.
I wish you guys well for the season, but just not at our expense :-)
02 Feb 2019 05:46:59
I saw a comment down the page where someone said your club is the worst run by the Board. I think we’d give you a run for you money right now for that. No coherent strategy, short term decisions, no long term planning, we have a lot in common right now.
However, what did you all make of Sarri’s comments? Jose lost your dressing room, as he then lost ours but some of Sarri’s comments suggest the players hold all the cards. Everything is happy and shiny at OT right now but seeing what is happening at Chelsea, I worry that if we have a rough patch and the Manager makes unpopular decisions, we might see tools downed again.
Is it poor management or is it just the modern game? We saw Argentina’s players pretty much ignore their Manager at the World Cup, do Managers now have to tread very carefully and persuade and cajole as opposed to telling and instructing?
I was quite shocked by Sarri’s comments, how are you all reacting to them?
1.) 02 Feb 2019 07:18:35
Sarri was spot on and I think he’ll win them over.
I don’t think sport is changing as such where players hold all the power but for some clubs/ teams it’s like that.
In nba you have Steve Kerr (their gm) in control of 5 all stars but last year with the cave, LeBron (the player) was basically running the show and telling plays instead of the gm. It’s becoming more player oreintated but managers still are mostly in control I believe, they just need to gain respect from the players instead of demand it.
2.) 02 Feb 2019 08:53:44
Once upon a time managers all but ran the playing side, coaching, picking sells and buys and being involved in everything but nowadays the players know his role is seen as a coach and very little else. Managers that could do everything are rare now and many are happy to be the trainer/ coach and leave the rest to others. Sarri's comments were interesting but you could tell the players also said their piece to him as there were several references to their performance and "I don't decide the tactics" and "we were better defensively last season" and one we all complain about "we kept losing the ball up front and were countered". BIG game against Huddersfield for more reasons than one.
3.) 02 Feb 2019 09:34:19
I have always maintained something, which is that:
Sarri never knew much about the Chelsea board, the league (EPL- that it can be unbelievably difficult) or the character of the players at Chelsea, before he came to Stanford Bridge- he just saw them from the other side and off course the lawn is always greener from the other side. I remember at some point Sarri said- he can, but he won't talk to Antonio Conte- to know about the players- which means that he wants to discover for himself (indeed he's now discovering for himself) .
Sarri's recent comments show that he's now beginning to understand the players at Chelsea (the same players that messed up two world class coaches in Jose Mourinho and very regrettably Antonio Conte) . I always blame Sarri cos I feel he should have known a bit about the players that he is coming to manage and how the Chelsea board reacts to issues concerning the players. Honestly, I think Sarri could have sold some of the players when he arrived at Chelsea.
If you think back, there was a comment that Hazard made when this Chelsea team was playing well (still unbeaten) and getting good results: He said that, 'all is going well now cos the results are good but we will see how good we are (manager included) when we turn a rough patch'. From this comment, I can deduce that Hazard expected that there would be a rough time ahead and wasn't confident (in what? ) from the start of the season, the question is why?
Whatever happens, I want the board to support Sarri (he's a top manager) to bring or use young, vibrant and hungry players- build a new core and don't hold back anyone that wants to leave. We can't be sacking good coaches every now and then (at the moment, I am thinking that sacking Antonio Conte was a mistake) .
NB: I don't support Sarri using Hazard as a point man.
4.) 02 Feb 2019 10:06:55
AJH, Sarri is spot on. He is only saying what the two previous managers have said.
We lack leaders and have players who. are mentally weak.
Having said that, we are still a lot better that Utd and we always will be.
5.) 02 Feb 2019 10:09:22
I think, because it's now happened with multiple managers, it's definitely largely due to the players. We have some serious primadonnas.
Eden, while I love him, isn't about 100% effort consistently. Willian is sulky as all hell, and we saw with Conte how he turned on him with the emoji disaster. Morata wasn't up for it mentally sadly. Luiz has brianfarts still, which is a shame. Alonso hasn't been good enough for weeks now, and it seems like he isn't giving it his all.
The team still don't play the system.
Similarly, your club also employs some primadonnas. Alexis, Pogba, Lukaku, Martial (to a certian extent), they all seem a bit fickle in their efforts on the pitch. So yeah, you're in the honeymoon phase and you have too much talent to miss out on top 4 (which I've said all along) . But the underlying issue with player mentality will still exist with those players, and once things start getting more difficult the same tension will likely arise again.
03 Sep 2017 20:29:26
Jackson
I read your post further down analysing you transfer business and I agree up to a point. The press like to exaggerate the ways. I think United's window was good as we addressed the areas we needed to with proven EPL players, however I don't think it was as outstanding as some pf the press report.
The comeback to your point about the negativity being levelled at Chelsea is probably to do with Conte's public utterings and how the press have then added their own spin to that. I love your loyalty to your team but there were a bunch of players that Conte allegedly wanted that didn't arrive or went elsewhere. However, you have bought reasonably well (Drinkwater? ) and lost some players who were at the end of their careers or who you thought were surplus to requirements.
I also think Spurs's window was at best average whilst Arsenal's was a disaster. City are said to have had a great window yet their CBs continue to look dodgy and they didn't fix that. Same for Liverpool. Shiny new forwards whilst their defence looks shocking.
I think it's a 3 way fight between us, City, and you, Liverpool or Spurs 4th or 5th and I think Arsenal may even struggle to finish 6th this year.
Looking forward to a great season and some quality banter.
1.) 03 Sep 2017 22:51:47
I respect your post and your analysis.
2.) 04 Sep 2017 01:28:05
If Tottenham switch back to a back three of Sanchez, Alderweireld and Vertonghen with Aurier and Rose as wing backs I personally think they will have the best defence in the league. Aurier and Rose are as complete as they come at attacking and defending. Moses and Alonso aren't IMO and disagree all you want that's just me not being biast. If they had Conte as manager I think they would win the league they just seem to lack that winning mentality. Kane and Alli are as good as they come at going forward.
3.) 04 Sep 2017 06:14:12
Yeah, Conte's comments obviously weren't going to help in that regard. Right on that. For Spurs, I think Aurier made their window decent. He's going to be ridiculously good for them and he's going to bomb down that right flank all game long. Terrific pick up. But like us they're still lacking depth in certain departments.
4.) 04 Sep 2017 06:25:34
Agreed AJH, the thing for me was spending over 150 million and not improving the squad. Yes we improved in defense but we went backwards in attack and midfield. l, and still don't have a left back if Alonso goes down. We will be okay but it could have been much much better.
5.) 04 Sep 2017 12:29:01
Rahman is back now too.
6.) 04 Sep 2017 13:31:19
A few comments to make on the above posts.
Baba will not be fit until Christmas.
Matic was average at best last year and truly awful the season before. I see both Drinkwater and Bakayoko contrubuting more than Matic
I do think that Morata has a lot to prove but I'm reminded how disruptive and ordinary Costa was for the second half of last season. So I'm pleased to have got Morata and retained Michy.
On our so called spending and I'm not sure of the exact figures but if you include our sales at the last window and this latest window, we have spent virtually zero and that's NOT counting any fee we receive for Costa.
7.) 04 Sep 2017 14:20:41
Matic may have been average last year but so was Drinkwater. Looking at the top teams I think we all have areas we would have liked to see improved but for whatever reason it didn't happen. I think it could be fascinating this year, City were most people's favourites last year and they weren't great, Liverpool started like a train and faded badly, it's great we have so many teams competing.
8.) 04 Sep 2017 20:05:38
That average player had more assists last season than any MU player last season including Pogba and Mata. Also had far better statistics than any of present Chelsea and MU midfielders. So you can be grateful to that SOB Jose Mourinho for doing amazing scouting job.
9.) 04 Sep 2017 22:16:11
Antibot, I've found cross referencing or comparing player statistics from different teams a total waist of time!
Matic may well play better for a Utd in the same way Kante played well for us last year.
Also Bakayoko and Drinkwater will have completely different stats with us than they had with their previous clubs.
You have to take into account so many variables, team shape, team style of play, standard of team mates . It makes statistics redundant.
You can compare player performance within a team and judge and compare there contribution to the team and result and that's why I stand by my statement they Matic was bang average last year and truly awful the season before!
Anyway, player performances are always a good debating point.
10.) 05 Sep 2017 08:59:06
Tom Blue(I believe that B is for blue).We probably wouldn't have this discussion if you watched MU this season. They look secure and confident.And that's what Chelsea has lost.If player doesn't play attractive football doesn't mean that player is average.That's why statistics exist so one can have more objective picture. Yes,Matic might have worse or better statistics at MU the same way that Drinkwater and Bakayoko can have better or worse statistics at Chelsea than at Leicester and Monaco.But it's more likely that Matic and Drinkwater will statistics closer to theirs previous clubs since both players have PL experience unlike young and promising Bakayoko.But to say that someone who had more assists than best assistants at MU and player is allegedly CDM by vocation average season doesn't stand.The player who was regular first choice CM in 2 midfield in the club that won PL with superiority can't be taken seriously.
I also believe in Conte's hard work approach.But experience is very very important in the squad.
11.) 05 Sep 2017 09:44:18
The "B" is for Baldwin not blue but a good guess!
The first full season under Jose's management Matic was outstanding. In my opinion the following season he was, along with rest of team (except Willian) awful and last season average!
You are correct statistics can be used for objective debate but no more than that.
An example would be and according to sky, Drinkwater has a better long ball success rate than Cesc. This stat doesn't take into account so many factors in renders it pointless! I
My point about Matic and his performance was NOT based on stats but my view using my eyes at virtually every home and away game.
He may well go on to be outstanding for Utd but given his performances over the last two seasons, in my opinion, he is no great loss and £40mil was a good money for Chelsea to receive.
12.) 05 Sep 2017 20:56:38
As you just said your opinion is subjective based on your perception. It is absolutely pointless to argue about subjective standing. People are allowed to think that earth is flat even nowdays. I will always defend your right to have different opinion to mine.
13.) 05 Sep 2017 21:36:28
And I will defend your right to have an opinion along with every orher football fans right to have an opinion!
Just for good orders sake. I never argue, I debate, inquire, ask questions, sometimes agree but I'm never patronising!
14.) 06 Sep 2017 08:33:52
I am really sorry if you had an impression that I've been patronising you or anyone else. That wasn't my intention. I am gnostic and I believe in arguments and facts and I am not relying on my impressions Sometimes things are different from the way we see them.
15.) 06 Sep 2017 11:28:50
Yep, sometimes things are different from the way we se them!
26 Jul 2017 12:11:37
Ryan, we will see. Not sure how an unwanted player can be worth £50M.
26 Jul 2017 10:31:57
Behave yourself Ryan. WIllian was mentioned by a poster asking if anyone thought he would be a good buy, Neymar has never been an option. Matic is, but £50M for someone who is not first choice is just silly. I think Jose will look elsewhere, there's plenty about at a lot less money than that.
08 Aug 2025 16:12:44
I like him, I'm gutted he's going, he was the shining light of the youth team and we expected big things. For whatever reason, he hasn't been delivering and the Manager wants him gone.
Look at Rashford. He has been shocking for us, yet Barcelona want him. If the talent is there, there's always a chance the right Manager can draw it out.
United has been a car crash for many years, the Manager is having a clear out so maybe Garnacho will step up elsewhere. Are you sure we can't also interest you in Sancho?
08 Aug 2025 13:23:51
He splits opinion. He was the next big thing but hasn't really pushed on. He is clearly very talented but seems to be a bad influence, and whilst United have a LOT of issues, players with dodgy attitudes has been a problem.
In the right dressing room, with the right Manager, I think he could be really successful, but when a player has a dodgy attitude, you never can tell.
20 Apr 2021 15:13:53
Why? Because they want more money and they want to protect that revenue if they have a crap season. Finished 9th? No problem you can still play in the ESL and earn all that lovely cash.
Spurs last won the title. 60 years ago. City and Chelsea were bumbling along until Roman and the Sheikh appeared. Clubs that were big yesterday may not be big today, and clubs that are big today may not be tomorrow. It’s protectionism, pure and simple, designed to generate more cash.
And the worst thing? It’s the English teams, and my club in particular that is leading this, I’m ashamed.
05 Feb 2021 09:19:35
He was a spent force when we was with us. He was fantastic but he seems to be yesterday’s man, the world has moved on and he seems not to have moved with it. Spurs were lot played well but it felt like Spurs didn’t put up a fight until the last 10 minutes. No shame in losing, but lots of shame in losing like that.
03 Feb 2021 14:44:35
I think that’s fair although this season does have a ‘Leicester’ feel to it.
We have been bang average in a lot of games but seem to pull goals out when needed. It could suddenly click and we push on, or fall apart and down we slide. I’d hate to bet either way right now.