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30 Jun 2020 14:35:20
Hi Ed I heard Lampards comments pouring cold water on the Angel Gomes rumours. It amazes me that United are actively seeking a left sided versatile midfielder when they had Gomes to try out. Now it’s confirmed he is leaving where are his possible destinations?
{Ed002's Note - I explained Chelsea had other priorities in his position. You should ask on the MU page if you wish to know about their players.}
28 Jun 2020 10:58:06
Hi Ed I was wondering, Is Defensive midfield cover in Chelsea’s plans for the summer?
And if so Is Rice (West Ham) a target for that position, or is that then dependent on West Ham’s survival.
{Ed002's Note - It depends who leaves - there is the likes of Kante and Jorginho to consider.}
28 Jun 2020 12:24:26
Any news in that Lampard sees Declan Rice as a CB if any interest occurred Ed?
{Ed002's Note - Everyone has explained that defenders have signed already and I know nothing, so I am no longer bothering about the entire defence.}
28 Jun 2020 13:37:42
Ed 002 please temper justice with mercy a lot of us here do not fancy those posters who pick an information from twitter and come here to deride your transfer knowledge. For our sake just forgive and forget them. Giving them less or no attention might change them.
28 Jun 2020 15:10:51
Imagine kante leaving and Declan rice coming in, what a downgrade, Even five replacing jorginho wouldn’t be an upgrade,
28 Jun 2020 15:25:49
I agree Matt. Don’t know why we would go for Rice and then convert him to a Cb when we have Ampadu.
28 Jun 2020 15:48:51
I don't think you can compare Rice to Kante, completely different players. I'd certainly want Rice over Jorginho, offers much more. But, I do see Mount developing into a better defender than midfielder.
28 Jun 2020 15:25:53
Yes, that was my thinking if Jorginho moves on and West Ham get relegated could be the perfect recipe for a move.
28 Jun 2020 15:53:39
People are really overrating Ampadu here and underrating Rice. Ampadu doesn’t have the physicality to start at CB and couldn’t even get games for Leipzig. Rice has progressed much further than Ampadu already. People just don’t like Rice cause he’s at West Ham and not a European club. West Ham fans will tell you yourselves how solid he is and consistent and he’s always been a natural CB and leader before he got moved to CDM. I wouldn’t have him for the fee quoted but people are definitely sleeping on Declan Rice.
28 Jun 2020 16:58:53
As I’ve been saying for some time, I rate Rice by I can’t see why there is a comparison between him and Ampadu.
I’ve already asked the Eds how many times Rice has played at CH and it’s hardly any.
Also Ampadu IMO will be a better player than Rice at CH every day of the week but it’s all about opinions.
28 Jun 2020 18:38:47
Rice replacing jorginho is a sideways move, doesn’t weaken us doesn’t improve us, kante is our only undebatable world class player, build around what we have. If jorginho goes we need to add a no8, up and down but gets goals, or a mobile ball player to play beside kante in a two,
28 Jun 2020 18:46:44
How does it not improve us? 😂 Rice is better aerially, better at Defending and actually sticks to his position not like Jorginho he starts pressing in the number 10 and running around like a headless chicken leaving space behind him. Unbelievable.
28 Jun 2020 19:19:12
Where does rice play, CM? Beside kante in a two, or Dm, his young and English so the hype is there, same with grealish, even if it did improve us it wouldn’t take us up a level, he stands out at West Ham the same as Parker did, a good player surrounded by average,
28 Jun 2020 21:14:57
I like your comments Matt Martin- very true.
28 Jun 2020 21:35:58
I hope he has a stinker on Wednesday.
28 Jun 2020 21:54:19
I mean there aren’t many 21 year olds that are going to walk in and improve the team. Gone are the days of filling the homegrown quotas with Ross Turnbulls, Rob Greens and and Danny Drinkwaters of the world (no disrespect to them) we are now using our own talent and signing young English players that immediately plugs a gap should someone leave (but also has the potential to improve our team in 1-2 years) is a good strategy to go with that policy.
28 Jun 2020 23:38:49
Young English and from another premier league team, that adds £30m on, I’d take camavinga before rice. I don’t dislike rice but I remember this hype of Eric dier and how united we’re going to spend big on him, seems same for rice. Aouar of Lyon, 21, there’s an upgrade,
29 Jun 2020 04:11:08
Kante leaving would be bad for us. His presence in midfield is immense (world class) . Close to impossible to get a player like him. He is the difference maker . to us challenging for the title next season. Without him we can bid it goodbye for another season.
Ed002 who would be an option for Kante was to leave? Same with jorginho?
{Ed002's Note - Chelsea were interested in Sandro Tonali but he won't be joining.}
29 Jun 2020 09:13:14
How longs Aouar being a DM? Blimey it gets better 🤣.
29 Jun 2020 09:56:04
Shame; Sandro Tonali is the one I really like, I guess he’s staying in Italy maybe fancies Inter Milan.
29 Jun 2020 11:08:26
I’m confused, again not for the first time. Are some posters seeing Rice as a CH or a DM or both?
29 Jun 2020 11:30:06
Haha if you have kante and a partner beside him one is a DM other is a ball player but who is mobile, kante beside aouar, matic / Fabregas for example, it would work with jorginho but his too slow, cheers anyway blm.
29 Jun 2020 11:50:47
To me rice is a Dm, why sign him as a CB when we have Ampadu, I’m always worried about players when we’re not sure if there a dm or CB, I worry you get a Phil Jones who isn’t either at a good enough level,
29 Jun 2020 12:28:27
Good point Matt.
29 Jun 2020 14:43:48
I think right now Rice is a CM, but I think he'll develope into a better CB.
{Ed002's Note - He is a defensive midfield player.}
29 Jun 2020 17:31:20
Declan Rice has the 3rd highest Interceptions In the entire premier league. Who is saying he should play CB? Get a grip if he was meant to be a CB then West Ham (who really need to stop leaking goals as they are in a relegation battle) would probably be playing him there. Believe me they have one of the most successful Academy’s in English football history, they know what they are doing.
29 Jun 2020 20:52:45
Sorry rocky balboa 😂.
29 Jun 2020 21:29:56
I guess that marks the end of the points for debate.
29 Jun 2020 21:51:30
If you knew anything about football was that he graduated out of Chelsea academy as a CB but I wouldn’t expect you to.
{Ed002's Note - He did not “graduate out of Chelsea Academy” he left at 14.}
29 Jun 2020 22:12:12
Looks that way but I’m sure it will be discussed again if Rice plays well on Wednesday.
Let’s hope he doesn’t.
29 Jun 2020 22:37:27
Thanks for the information Ed.
30 Jun 2020 04:25:44
Jorginho has a good interception rate too, he also got over taken by a referee whilst tracking back, rice is good, not great we have jorginho kante kovecic in midfield who don’t score enough goals / assists so why Declan rice is even a debate is beyond me,
30 Jun 2020 08:02:09
Haha 😂 I’m not even going to bother with you BLM you seem to do just fine messing yourself up. I think it would be tidy business if we could get Rice for the same fee we sell Jorginho for if we do. Actual defensive minded cover for kante unlike jorgi offers atm and I don’t think Rice would expect to start every game right away. We have all Been debating where he plays best but if we step away from that for a second it’s actually a good thing we even can have a discussion about where he plays must mean he is a useful young man.
27 Jun 2020 23:12:47
Seen a few people link CHO to a Leverkusen loan, if we sign Havertz. Personally I can't see us loaning him out, and see him as an important part of the squad next season. I mentioned it a while back, but I think Leverkusen could be a very good place for Anjorin to spend a season or two.
28 Jun 2020 01:04:18
Willian Pedro going not sure why we’d loan out CHO. Hope he doesn’t mid competition thou, because if his attitude / work Rate drops He will find himself on the bench,
28 Jun 2020 10:21:42
I’m still not convinced Willian will be leaving this season.
I also can’t see CHO going out on loan but stranger things have happened:
28 Jun 2020 10:29:25
Leverkusen need a striker. Batshuayi wants out and did well in the Bundesliga before.
28 Jun 2020 11:00:18
I think we all may have jumped the gun with this loan business lol. If you think about it, it does sound bizarre.
28 Jun 2020 11:40:38
That would make sense RJ28P.
I think the Bundesliga is a great place to send our youngsters on loan btw. Decent enough standard, certainly compared to the Dutch league, and a similar culture. A few lads have done well there now.
28 Jun 2020 11:46:30
Getting rid of Michy as part of the deal would be fantastic business for us if we can just pay about 50 for Havertz. I agree with Tom though I can’t see Willian leaving he’s just like that one guy at a house party you want to get out but just won’t leave.
28 Jun 2020 19:19:42
I don't get why people want Willian to leave. He can play anywhere across the forward line and certainly better than CHO, who has shown no progression this season. Yes he is the wrong side of 30, but if CHO hasn't stepped up to the plate then Willian would be a great impact sub whilst keeping the starters honest. Look at Mata for United, still doing a job. The grass isn't always greener!
28 Jun 2020 23:16:37
No progression? CHO is a kid who's spent the vast majority of the season injured, or recovering from an injury. What do you want from him?
29 Jun 2020 09:55:05
That is my point, with no break between this and next season, he won't hit the ground running will he. All for homegrown talent, but he isn't as good as Willian.
29 Jun 2020 12:13:11
I believe the initial rumour was for CHO to go to BL in part-exchange for Havertz - a permanent move not a loan. This is virtually impossible given the wage that we were blackmailed into giving CHO.
29 Jun 2020 18:54:13
Blackmailed doesn’t fit, I think the word you are looking for is intimidated or coerced.
27 Jun 2020 15:05:11
Just heard from my good friend Doris who is very well and contrary to some rumours😏 is still on cleaning duties aboard Roman's boat. She tells me things have been very quiet with no visitors but lots of activity on the phone. Roman is spending several hours a day talking to Marina, Bruce, Pini and other super agents. She can't tell me any specifics but whenever Kai Havertz gets mentioned so does Callum Hudson-adoi! . Speculate on that? Again, no specifics but Kepa's name keeps coming up as well and so does Willians. Whenever Willian is mentioned she also hears contracts so I imagine he might still stay. She did hear Roman talking to an agent about a leicester player but was drowned out by him laughing and talking to his Son in Russian who also started laughing. Her Russian is improving and she thinks they were saying "Leicester are having a laugh if they think he is worth that much". loosely translated.
Anyway a few snippets in there and I told her I shall phone again next week. 😏😏.
27 Jun 2020 16:23:17
I don't get the Kai Havertz and CHO link?
27 Jun 2020 17:34:33
This is nothing more than putting 2+2 and getting 10 but Ed002 has said that Chelsea had an interesting proposal to put to BL. CHO needs game time to push on. a year on loan to BL as part of a deal for Kai Havertz would be interesting.
27 Jun 2020 17:51:51
If we can find a solution for Willian then CHO could spend two years at BL? He’d be the main man and could really step up to be the player he has teased to be. We’d have plenty of cover with Willian, Havertz, Pulisic, Ziyech, Mount and Timo?
27 Jun 2020 19:10:33
Agreed Shak I was thinking the same thing both different players, different skill set and different positions (is Ben if Havertz can play wide) . but I know better than to doubt Doris/ Olive.
27 Jun 2020 19:39:20
Thanks Studley, it makes sense.
27 Jun 2020 19:54:25
Loaning Callum would be a dumb move in my opinion. He's plenty good enough to play a part for us, and I'd imagine the people at the club feel the same. Hence the big contract as well.
27 Jun 2020 19:58:47
His definitely good enough to play a part but will his development be hindered if he wasn't to play every weekend.
I reckon we should buy Havertz outright.
27 Jun 2020 20:18:23
I can see your point Jackson and I’m on the fence. That said he’s struggled with injuries this year and could see himself 4th choice next year. He’s also made some choices off the field that have hit the headlines. Perhaps some time away from Chelsea could be as important to his personal growth as well as his football growth?
27 Jun 2020 20:52:13
I agree with Studley and I’m a massive fan of CHO. A one year loan to gain some momentum and get proper minutes in a good league isn’t a bad idea. He has struggled with injuries and had some trouble off the field regardless. We would still have Pulisic, Ziyech, Werner, Mount and Havertz who can play wide and for some strange reason I see Willian staying even though I would have preferred Pedro to stay.
28 Jun 2020 04:44:23
I’m astounded how little slack CHO has gotten this season in light of his TORN ACHILLES. That’s generally a full year out (see RLC) .
I agree in that I would love for him to have a ton of time as he started to come into his own last year once he got consistent time. That said I don’t buy the notion that we’re swimming in depth.
Pulisic has shown he’s not a stranger to injuries, Werner will likely only play on the wing in emergency situations, Ziyech will be new to the league and have AFCON, Willian will be another year older if he stays, and Mount has almost never played wide this year and was absent when he did.
If city can justify keeping Sane, Sterling, Mahrez, and Bernardo on the same team then I think we should be able to make it work also.
28 Jun 2020 07:39:20
Maybe the interesting proposal was loaning CHO for a year as part of the package for Havertz?
28 Jun 2020 00:21:25
Ed2 is there a possibility that a player could go on loan to BL as part of any deal for Havertz. Will that be something Chelsea would consider? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - I am not going to start answering arising from all of this nonsence.}
28 Jun 2020 10:52:12
Fair enough of Ed2. Tbf to the poster he did say 2+2 = 10. Its caused a bit of a conversation here, but I'm sure deep down everyone knows it's not true. Thanks anyway mate.
28 Jun 2020 15:18:16
Wait. Everyone knows this guys just writes this stuff up from what he is reading online / in papers right? Hopefully no one is taking this guys posts seriously he is doing it for “fun”, with tongue in cheek.
28 Jun 2020 20:14:01
I think we have all enjoyed the debate and speculation. It’s exciting to be signing players again!
29 Jun 2020 14:23:05
Don’t know what you are talking about, CP, Olive or Doris or Barbara or whatever her nom de guerre is clearly a lifelong friend (and maybe former romantic interest? ) of G8, who risks her employment and maybe even life (who knows how Roman deals with spies?! To feed our hunger for rumours.
The very idea that you would say that this brave, selfless woman is mere fiction shakes me to my core and makes me lose faith in humanity. This woman should be applauded, yet you question her existence?
G8, next phone conversation tell our cleaning heroine that most of us remain faithful to her snippets! We do not waiver in our faith!
27 Jun 2020 09:58:41
There's been a couple of different reports in Spanish press, over last couple of days, regarding Kepa.
One was a sale to Atletico Madrid, which would involve us buying Oblak too. Not really buying into that one too much.
The other is a bit of a transfer merry-go-round. It basically involves Cillessen being sold by Valencia to Ajax, Ajax selling Onana to us and Kepa going to Valencia on a two year loan with option to buy.
Despite the many moving parts of the second story, I actually think that it's more believable than us signing Oblak - unfortunately.
27 Jun 2020 11:19:02
For me oblak is number 1 goalkeeper in the world. How many times I have watched A. Madrid this season he always impresses me.
27 Jun 2020 12:48:52
I think loan to buy is the only way we’ll find a buyer. I’m not a big fan of Onana even though he’s an improvement on Kepa.
I’d much prefer to see us sign either of Strakosha or Rajkovic.
27 Jun 2020 12:53:15
I think if the club sold Kepa they would want cash and not the loan to buy scenario. That is probably a big issue for us.
I think the club should buy the Ajax keeper Onana anyways and have two keepers after that no.1 spot until such time one proves to be the better player.
27 Jun 2020 13:59:33
Ed002, if kepa was to leave . Who would we look to bring in?
{Ed002's Note - There was a lengthy list of options.}
27 Jun 2020 14:49:48
I’m not a Kepa at all but I’m not a fan of Onana either even though he’s better.
I’d like to see the club go after either Strakosha or Rajkovic. I’d prefer someone. 6’3 or over with a consistent save percentage and decent on the ball. Don’t after be great on the hall for me just decent. I like Strakosha and I think he’s outgrown Lazio now and it’s time he got a big move. One of the most underrated keepers in Europe. I’d rather see us try for a keeper this summer along with LB and leave CB till next summer. Goalkeeper is more important.
27 Jun 2020 16:42:21
I’d like to see us go after Donarumma of Milan. Has the size to cope with the prem and his distribution is a major upgrade on kepa’s. He’s got a ton of experience since he became Milan’s first choice keeper at 17 but is now roughly the same age Courtois was when he returned from loan. Financially Milan are in a tough position between C.V., lack of top end European football revenue, and the current owners trying to sell. On top of this Donarumma only has 1 year left on his contract.
As an aside the thing that makes me nervous about Onana is his involvement in the African Cup of Nations which would mean we lose him for a month every other year through the middle of the season. Most positions can stomach rotation like that but keeper is so stability based.
27 Jun 2020 17:17:53
My only problem with Donnarumma is dealing with Raiola as his agent otherwise I’d want him. He’s only got less than a year on his deal also so could even get him on the cheap.
I agree on Onana you don’t want you’re best keeper missing a chunk due to AFCON. Not to bad with Ziyech going as we have Pulisic, Werner and CHO who can all play wide.
28 Jun 2020 04:46:13
Sadly I think that the Raiola type agents are becoming the norm. Ed has mentioned Sancho’s agent being the hold up on a deal. At a certain point you have to play their game and accept the territory that comes with it.
26 Jun 2020 20:46:56
Hey Ed2, hope you are well mate. I was wondering whether or not it will make a difference if Bayern Leverkusen get in the Champions League or not in terms of the sale and value of Havertz? Thanks.
{Ed002's Note - Aside from it being unlikely, BL are expecting KH to leave this summer.}
26 Jun 2020 21:17:24
Yeh it does seem unlikely that they will get into the champions league from their domestic league position.
Is there any other interest in the player from other clubs barring the ones we know about - Chelsea, Bayern and possibly Real Madrid.
Thanks mate.
{Ed002's Note - Bayern Munich could make a bid but they have a deal for another player to complete first. Real Madrid don’t have the money to buy this year.}
26 Jun 2020 21:36:17
Can really see him ending up here I know people think it’s unlikely after Werner and Ziyech but I think he’d come. Biggest club in London showing ambition again and his best mate Werner has also just joined. Think we’d be a major attraction.
Heard his decision will be made after the cup final against Munich on the 4th July, is that true Ed?
26 Jun 2020 22:14:05
Thanks Ed2, appreciate your inside knowledge mate.
26 Jun 2020 22:24:11
I don't think the conclusion of the cup final makes a difference. I am pretty sure he has decided where he wants to go and his club are probably are aware of his intentions.
I personally think wherever he goes, we will known prior to the final. It would be a great final game for his club.
27 Jun 2020 10:23:06
Havertz will stay with BL for another season and go to Real Madrid next summer.
27 Jun 2020 11:12:59
What gives you that information MDW? Last I heard from various sources is he wants to leave this summer regardless!
27 Jun 2020 14:46:04
Ever the optimist MDW.
27 Jun 2020 16:14:20
BLM, Havertz has been quoted as saying that his preference is for Madrid - Madrid haven't got the money this summer - so putting 2 and 2 together - but it'll probably be 5!
27 Jun 2020 16:54:20
Wherever Bayer finish in the League he will probably go and play a blinder against United or someone in the Europa League and add £30m back on lol.
27 Jun 2020 17:18:54
MDW that statement isn’t true and hasn’t actually come from the player it was just one journalist that stated that and there’s no proof.
25 Jun 2020 14:51:53
ed002 if juve get arthur would that rule them out for jorginho or do they want both? thanks.
{Ed002's Note - It is unrelated to Jorginho but they want another player ahead of Jorginho (but they see the other player moving elsewhere) so could look to him but it may come down to what offer is on the table and the desire of the player to leave.}
24 Jun 2020 10:44:19
Don't shoot the messenger, however, I am told that Chelsea have submitted a fairly large offer for Kai Havertz?
I'm not sure of the validity of this, however there seems to be some noise coming out about this offer.
24 Jun 2020 11:00:51
As I say, don't shoot the messenger. This could be complete hoax or have some truth in it.
Anyway I thought I'd share it for those that are interested.
24 Jun 2020 11:08:42
He’s coming to Chelsea anyway, I’ve had this feeling since the Werner deal. Something special is happening at the bridge again 💙
Be like when West Ham signed Tevez and Mascherano of the same nationality except we’re a bigger club and we’re now showing proper ambition again.
24 Jun 2020 11:08:44
Be good if you quoted the source which I presume is the Express quoting Pipe Sierra (whoever he is) on Twitter?
All this 'I have heard' makes a mockery of the genuine info the Eds pass onto us.
24 Jun 2020 11:09:13
£76m being reported in Euro press.
24 Jun 2020 11:22:39
As I said Turvey it's for those who are interested. It wasn't meant to upset you and after all it is a rumour/ banter site. It's not designed to make a mockery of anything either.
24 Jun 2020 11:30:47
When Ed002 says it is true, or the club formally announce they've agreed a deal, I'll believe it.
Until then it is guesswork.
24 Jun 2020 11:41:46
Agree with Shak there some people get really upset on this site when people post stuff from elsewhere. Think some might be having a hard time with their girlfriends lol. Like Shak has stated it’s a rumour/ banter site after all and it’s nice to see regular posts otherwise it’d just be a boring page like the Man City one. Personally I se Havertz happening 🤞🏻.
24 Jun 2020 12:11:52
Don’t you know? Unless rumours come to us from Roman himself, or Divine Providence we can’t share them here as they aren’t worthy!
. anyone else remember the my dad’s pool cleaner is married to X player’s dog walker rumours?
24 Jun 2020 12:25:47
Exactly BLM, cheers mate.
24 Jun 2020 12:30:40
It’s exciting times for Chelsea fans. I think many of us would like to see this one happen.
24 Jun 2020 12:44:18
Wasn't that the guy who broke the Hazard transfer news Rowey?
24 Jun 2020 13:43:09
The very same, J 😂.
25 Jun 2020 03:26:48
Frankie says NO Chelsea bid made.
25 Jun 2020 08:11:26
I generally wouldn't take what Frank says seriously.
He also said the deal to get Willian and Pedro committed till the end of the season was relatively easy.
That’s why it took till last day off the deadline to get them signed. Must have been a piece of cake.
25 Jun 2020 08:31:39
Unless Edward the second says it I don't believe anything else on the news the newspapers or the worst thing to happen to humanity other than fossil fuels social media end of debate.
25 Jun 2020 11:07:15
Maybe do a bit of research before posting meaningless rumour that is freely available to everyone on News Now and Twatter.
The Express is one of the worst culprits for picking clickbait from Twatter.
No wonder the Eds get annoyed at rumours that come from such unreliable sources.
25 Jun 2020 11:17:59
I really hope I'm wrong but I think Havertz will end up at Real Madrid if not this summer then next.
25 Jun 2020 12:14:19
Turvey my post seems to have bothered you a lot mate.
I said, it was for those who are interested and so if it doesn't interest you then you didn't need to read it and could have just ignored it.
It's a rumour/ banter site and it's good to get conversations flowing.
Gola, of course Ed2 is the one and only when it comes to reliability.
25 Jun 2020 12:24:00
MDW I hope your wrong mate. They have recently signed the youngster Reinier Jesus so it may hamper his development if they sigh KH.
25 Jun 2020 17:20:54
I really hope we step up for him, he would be immense in our midfield.
As for people not liking the rumors being posted, it is only annoying when people keep asking the eds if they are true or not. I really do like when these are posted and we can have banter, but I also like having the eds around (:
26 Jun 2020 00:25:22
Cheers Matt, appreciate it mate.
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