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03 Jan 2020 17:01:00
Ed not trying to annoy you, genuine question, i know you said forget guimaraes he's going elsewhere but he's still being linked with us and teams are narrowing down that are interested, i really like the player and was wondering if anything changed and we wouldd still get him? Thanks alot.
{Ed002's Note - I have explained this.}
03 Jan 2020 16:19:36
I don't trust statistics to judge a player. I don't trawl videos to watch a player and I have no idea what Fifa manager is!
I try to judge players on games I've seen.
So, for me the best defender at the Bridge so far this season was Chilwell. The two best midfielders were Rice and Grealish
I've not been overly impressed with any Premiership forward so far this season.
My guess is we will sign none of the above players and that's fine with me.
03 Jan 2020 18:54:48
Hey Tom, love your comments but this one is a bit odd.
So you don’t judge players by stats, or videos or Football manager but you judge them on their performance at the bridge where we have been below par?!
I don’t think that’s such a great way to look at things either, following your logic we’d have ended up with Papis Cisse, Charlie Adam and Dan Gosling. No disrespect just trying to fully understand how you « judge » players .
Cheers.
03 Jan 2020 19:47:01
Haha, always like your post ELI and you make a fair point by I do only like judging players when I can see them live.
I wouldn’t have picked any of the player’s you’ve mentioned and I’m struggling to remember my best players from the away teams for last season.
Oh and I never take offence about constructive criticism or comment.
03 Jan 2020 22:00:21
Gents the comments in this post did make me chuckle. ELI I can see where your coming from but I think Tom's been a season ticket holder for a long time so probably has seen the same opposition players many times for his judgement. I must say Grealish is a top player. Love the way he glides past players. He would be phenomenal.
04 Jan 2020 10:03:04
Cheers to the both of You. I fully understand what you mean Tom, I also don’t follow stats to judge players I do try and follow them all through the season to see how they fair .
Glad the site is still running strong with the like of Shak and yourself along with a few others. Let’s hope this decade brings more joy to us blues.
03 Jan 2020 15:18:04
Hi Ed, I know you have far more superior knowledge not only in transfers but almost every other side of the game. As a result, I would like your views on what Chelsea should be looking to address in this squad to make us a serious European giants again.
Roman has always been a dream owner but has his strained relationship with the British authority now made him lose slight interest in Chelsea? Having even withdrawn stadium development? IMO we all know that you have to spend on the right quality players and grooming some is the way to go but we decided to settle for the second rate these days.
I really need your insight because you are most reliable source of information about Chelsea.
Thanks and do have a great year ahead.
{Ed002's Note - The owner has not lost interest in the club. It is not an appropriate time to rebuild the stadium particularly as Chelsea has been refused the chance to use Wembley as Spurs did. I am not sure that Chelsea have settled for second rate players, but feel free to trash all of the players as most of the other users of this page do.}
03 Jan 2020 16:01:11
My bad if it came across as disrespecting the players we have, I support whoever plays for Chelsea. They have indeed made us successful and proud especially during RA era.
By second rate I only want to state that we have now lowered our signing standards, if I'm being honest.
03 Jan 2020 15:57:08
Surely NOT the majority of posters Ed. Just the same ones or one!
03 Jan 2020 15:10:32
Reading posts about spending big money got me thinking something.
How many of us actually remember Chelsea before Mr Abramovich bought the club?
03 Jan 2020 15:27:13
I certainly do. I used to go to the bridge with my dad and brother in the early 90s up until the now (not so much now as I live abroad) my whole family are Chelsea supports. my cousin actually coaches the children (not sure what age group but around 8 or 9 i think.
03 Jan 2020 15:27:25
Certainly have been good times dihanio. It’s why, at the end of the day we should trust the club.
03 Jan 2020 15:31:01
I’m actually against Chelsea spending money now, just don’t want to see it wasted like previous years with Baka, Drinkwater etc.
03 Jan 2020 15:51:45
Fans will support how they like Tom and don’t HAVE to listen to you.
03 Jan 2020 15:59:39
That’s correct 06111981 and likewise. That’s why it’s called a banter site.
It’s all about opinions!
03 Jan 2020 16:15:58
Think you need to learn the meaning of banter, you take everything far to seriously on here. Have you not had any in a very long time?
03 Jan 2020 16:37:33
Haven’t got the time for such things!
What name or names you going to use next week?
03 Jan 2020 17:22:23
I don’t know yet I’ll have a think 🤔 i’m sure I’ll think of something. Meanwhile you should think of something to stop being so miserable pal.
03 Jan 2020 20:30:48
As I’ve said before, I’m never miserable “pal” except when we lose and thankfully that’s not happened to often over the last 15 years or so!
05 Jan 2020 06:54:30
I hate to hear us say we wasted money on players. Let's be honest the players people are mentioning are all gambles weather you buy hazard or barkley who knows if they would workout or not. It could be down to our system that doesn't work for them or personal reasons (home sick, culture)
Some signing come off and some don't it doesn't mean the club are settling for second best or fifth best if you listen to people on here. You can't spend beyond your means anymore. So why would we pay over the odds for players.
I personally wouldn't buy Sancho, zaha, baily I would give hudson odoi the time,
I wouldn't buy ake or koulibly I would give tomori the time.
Not chilwill I would give that young LB the time.
I would settle for a period of time with the young lads that are chelsea bread.
{Ed001's Note - is that not the point though? That Chelsea should have done that a while ago, instead of buying the likes of Barkley that were clearly second rate signings before they were signed. Chelsea have such a good youth system that the only players bought should be top tier players, who fill gaps in the team or clearly improve on the ones already there, such as Kante. The likes of Barkley were just wasted money, on a player with a known drink and attitude problem, when you already had better options such as RLC in your squad.}
05 Jan 2020 09:27:30
Ed001 I completely agree with you. And rlc is one of my favourite players as I have said before I would love to see a midfield of
Kante
Rlc mount
Then with a front three of
Pulisic odoi
Tammy
Never liked barkley but the club took a gamble on a player with premier league experience and it hasn't paid off.
But I saw hazard as a £30 + million gamble aswell but that one did pay off.
{Ed001's Note - Hazard was a top tier gamble though. That's the kind of gamble you have to take to win things.}
03 Jan 2020 13:26:00
I don't know why but I am loving the meltdowns and in fighting going on across the online Chelsea Forums atm. It's hilarious.
Fans whinging about the board just 3 days after the window opened and crying over the fact it's unlikely We're not going to be spending upwards of half a billion smackers on the likes of Chilwell, Havertz, Sancho and Wener in January. Are these people for real lol.
The reality is We are one of a handful of Clubs that can finish Top 4 but it's by no means a shoe in but the same can be said of the others to. I think a couple of decent signings would improve Our chances but definitely not guarantee it so why buy for the sake of it and potentially eat into the Summer Budget and block the pathway for better signings in a few months time.
Signings are not just like buying clothes of the peg and January I can imagine is an even more challenging time to make signings.
Some folks really do need to get off the video games and look at things from the realm of reality from time to time lol.
It's Football at the end of the day and for the most part way outta the Fans control. Really doesn't make sense stressing when You think about it lol.
Anyway Happy New Year Folks let's hope 2020 is a good one.
KTBFFH!
03 Jan 2020 15:18:06
IMO a very realistic summary Blue-Nose.
03 Jan 2020 16:25:28
I'm getting to the point where I wish we'd have kept the transfer ban for this window.
Wake me up in February, when the wheeling and dealing has all been done.
03 Jan 2020 16:40:34
Know what you mean J.
03 Jan 2020 01:52:38
Ed002, do Inter want to get either Alonso/ Emerson in this window?
Considering Chelsea will not be able to recruit an adequate external replacement in this window and have made it clear they will simply not make the kind of financial offer any longer to tempt an adequate replacement's club to sell now; does it make any prospective deal for either player unlikely?
I could be wrong Ed002? but I think we as supporters need to reign in our expectations for this window and the moving forward full stop. The reality seems to be that Chelsea are no longer the club they once were financially and that means they are in the Dortmund bracket of aiming to sign players who have high potential rather than being tier one/ premium costing options; such as the likes of a Sancho, Chilwell, Werner, Koulibaly etc. These players just do not come to us anymore. Is that a fair thing to say?
{Ed002's Note - Inter and Juventus have an interest in both players but have other targets as well. Barcelona are also interested in Emerson. I have no idea what the rest of your post is about.}
03 Jan 2020 11:52:18
What the rest of my post is about Ed002 is that if either Alonso/ Emerson leave, Chelsea will not be able to move for Chilwell and they would not pay a fee which would tempt Leicester to sell this month. Is that not accurate to say based off how you know the club now works?
The other part is that Chelsea just do not seem to be able/ have the desire to pay to sign top choice players anymore. Look at this month, we are two days in to the window opening and the excuses are already coming out that we will have to wait until the summer to see if players like Sancho, Werner or Chilwell will be available.
That leaves a massive risk of us not being able to offer CL football and/ or other clubs, such as Man City with Chilwell/ Man Utd with Sancho, taking the players. It is just very frustrating.
{Ed002's Note - No, none of that is true.}
03 Jan 2020 12:45:13
I’d prefer to stay away from Chilwell full stop. He got rinsed against City and Liverpool in the two biggest games. If he did that in a Chelsea shirt he would get terrorised by fans especially at the 60 million price tag. He’s average defensively. I’d much prefer Grimaldo or Telles. Not great defensively either but at least they’ll provide a massive threat going forward to spare their blushes and at half the price.
03 Jan 2020 14:11:40
the January transfer window is notoriously difficult to get top class players. it's been the same for years. the fact that teams don't want to sell their star players has no bearing on Chelsea "not having the desire" to sign expensive players. it wasn't long ago we spent 70 million on a keeper. the club identifies targets and attempts to buy them for what I assume they believe they are worth. some work out and a lot don't. sometimes I'm in the supermarket and instead of a bottle of pinot grigio I'd like a bottle of Moet . now just because I really want the Moet doesn't mean in prepared to spend 5 times the amount of a bottle of pinot grigio when there really is little in the difference overall. what will be will be.
03 Jan 2020 15:29:11
Like your reasoning JCFC.
03 Jan 2020 16:07:10
I agree with everything you say JCFC except for the part where you say there is little in the difference between pinot grigio and a bottle of Moet ;)
03 Jan 2020 16:24:59
fair point, I've never brought a bottle of Moet as in too tight haha.
03 Jan 2020 10:2749
surely timo werner is a far better striker than dembele? the question is what do u guys think and who would you go for? me personally werner is a far better player and im sure he could be tempted depending on what the player wants i guess nobody knows his circumstance and wether hed prefer to stay in germany an hope bayern come back in for him let's test the waters and bust d bank with werner sancho? yes.
03 Jan 2020 12:15:46
I can honestly not see why Werner would want to leave right now. He's with a team that have a real possibility of winning the league, and with the Euro's coming up, why would he risk going to another club when things are working out so well for him right now?
It makes so much more sense for Werner to stay until after the European Championship and then make a decision on his future, in my opinion.
I must admit that I don't know Dembele that well, just like I don't know Chalov who we're linked to as well.
Also, Ed has stated multiple times that Dembele is not going anywhere this January. Out of the list Ed was so kind to provide this leaves few options left that are better than Michy.
I might be wrong, but I personally don't believe that Chalov can be much better than Michy. He plays in the Russian league and has 5 goals so far in 19 matches. I must admit that I really do like Michy, and that I think he would do decently in any team if he's given the time and playing time to get in form. In other words, I personally think that Michy is fine as a back up for now!
03 Jan 2020 09:52:19
Personally I don't think we will sign the big profile players we have been linked with in January. I. e. Sancho, Werner, Chilwell, Dembele and Zaha (too expensive) etc. I think it's fairly obvious that none of these players are attainable for one reason or another in January. I hope we can do deals for Sancho and Werner for the summer though.
Realistic targets for January guys?
If I was a betting man I would say Ake, Chalov and maybe Danni Olmo if he doesn't move to Barcelona. Thoughts guys?
03 Jan 2020 10:18:55
"If I was a betting man I would say Ake, Chalov and maybe Danni Olmo. " I would take Olmo, but Ake and Chalov are average at best. I don't think we'll get Sancho, Zaha is more realistic, player plus cash perhaps. We should go all out for Werner, he's a real talent, the other strikers that we're being linked with look bang average in comparison.
03 Jan 2020 10:38:52
Would like Ake, a left footed CB is something we need and for me he'd be our best CB. Don't want Chalov, i've watched very little but from what i have he doesn't look any better than Michy. Would rather stick with Batshuayi until the summer and then go for Werner. And for Olmo he looks like a decent little player but i doubt we're actually in for him.
If i was a betting man the only player i'd bet on us signing is Ake and even that move has it's doubts. It's too hard to predict with us. Our top targets as you said can't be done until the summer and with Lampard wanting attackers who can offer goals and assists in January i can't see players who we've been linked with that can Guarantee that. it'll be a very interesting window for sure.
03 Jan 2020 11:41:53
I thought the Ake deal might have been done quickly. I suppose it goes to show there is no such thing as a done deal in a football transfer window.
03 Jan 2020 12:07:15
If we sign Ake we haven’t learnt a thing. Good player but no better than Rudiger, Zouma or Tomori.
I’d rather sign no one than buy him without sounding harsh because we’re not improving we’re just stagnating.
03 Jan 2020 12:33:40
If we sign Ake or any other player it will be because management at the club want to sign him.
It’s NOT about learning lessons and the management will take little or no notice of what the fans think.!
We are no different to any other club. We have made very good signings and some that haven’t worked out but I trust the senior people are always doing there best to improve every level of club.
Ake is left footed and that is something that all our centre halves are not. He can also play LB.
Anyway I doubt we will sign now!
03 Jan 2020 13:09:40
we were the most successful club in the prem last decade. think they have done fine lol.
03 Jan 2020 13:18:32
Let’s just sign someone cause he’s left footed shall we TomB? What an awful comment! I’m left footed should the club sign me? 😂.
03 Jan 2020 13:19:46
We were lucky because we made a few good signings under Jose I. e Costa, Cesc and Matic that carried us to two league titles. Apart from Hazard and Kante as well our business has been awful.
03 Jan 2020 13:20:06
Absolutely Wheely!
Been going to the Bridge for way over fifty years and since Roman took control it’s been beyond my wildest dreams!
Long may it continue!
03 Jan 2020 15:14:07
Stop hiding behind the name changes 06111991.
If we sign Ake or you, it’s because the club rates him. Whilst it’s all about opinions ours don’t matter. when it comes to transfers.
I personally don’t care who we sign, for me, as soon as they put on the shirt, they are the best.
03 Jan 2020 15:18:50
Very interesting views from fellow posters and it was a nice read.
06111991 I don't think any comment is awful mate. It a viable opinion by Tom and one I'm sure the club considered given that his left footed and could play as the left side CB aswel as a LB should we lose Emerson or Alonso in the January window.
03 Jan 2020 15:22:09
Regarding our successes and failures in the signing of players.
My guess is our percentage of success over failures is better than most clubs but maybe not as good as others.
03 Jan 2020 15:32:00
Bet you’re fun at parties TomB.
03 Jan 2020 16:03:04
Miserable as sin when we get beat but luckily over the last fifteen years or so that doesn’t happen very often.
03 Jan 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 3rd January 2019