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29 May 2020 22:36:52
Bit of lockdown fun if I may. best ever Chelsea 11.

Cech

Ivanovic
JT
Desailly
Cole

Essien
Makelele
Lampard

Zola
Hazard

Drogba.

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29 May 2020 23:12:41
Ricky Carvalho has to be the most underrated Centre Back of the Mourinho era. For me he was even better than Terry in the 05 and 06 title wins. He could do it all.

30 May 2020 13:12:08
Bonetti

Shellito JT Paul Elliott McCreadie

Venables Hudson Lampard

Hazard Drogba Greaves

Subs: Osgood Zola Kante Chopper Harris Nevin.

29 May 2020 18:55:20
Who is jesus corona?

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29 May 2020 11:21:28
Morning Ed, firstly I hope you and your family have stayed safe has can be throughout this horrible virus.

If you don’t mind I have a couple of questions .

1. How are Chelsea set financially I know we missed a couple of windows but due to C.V. has it had a major effect on money’s available to transfer or do you feel we are reasonably well set to push on with transfers we had in mind pre C.V..

2. I have searched the engine but couldn’t find the answer to this, obviously is has fans all have opinions of what we need as a club but what positions has the club identified has problem areas and want to bring players in.

Oh and one more sorry for your time it has been a real pleasure this year watching some of these young lads and to be 4th I think is a huge achievement one player I think is well ahead of the curve is billy gilmour just wondering your thoughts on the player seems really well grounded along with his talent possible world class player on our hands ?

Thank you take care with the travelling and my thought to you all in tough times hope everyone is keeping well has they can all the best guys and girls

{Ed002's Note - (1) Chelsea are fine financially and have already agree £75M worth of January and summer sales. (2) A striker is wanted and much of the rest depends on departures. A left back and a winger are likely the next priorities. A young CB may arrive in addition to two young GKs who have joined. (3) Much is expected of Gilmour but the term "world class" is used all too often.}

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29 May 2020 14:34:26
Thanks for the reply Ed and very good post Lampsy. Cheers to you both.

29 May 2020 14:48:03
Is the £75m just Morata and Pasalic Ed?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea already has £50M coming in for Morata’s sale in the summer, £12M or so from Pasalic. Plus an additional £10M for Hector, Lamptey and Clinton Mola being sold in January and assorted loan fees totally a little more than £1M. Moses if the asking price is reduced will bring more - but not the £10M agreed.}

29 May 2020 15:18:56
Nice one Ed. Hopefully we can sell Batshuayi, Bakayoko, Kennedy, Van Ginkel and one of Emerson or Alonso to boost up that fund. Think Roma are pushing for another Zappa loan last I heard which is a shame as we could do with getting him off our books for good. Is there any strong interest in the players I’ve mentioned?

{Ed002's Note - VAn Ginkel is out of contract. I have explained before about the potential outgoings - nothing has changed.}

29 May 2020 16:54:31
Thanks for that Ed very much appreciated.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

29 May 2020 17:07:07
Do you think Chelsea might make some allowances with the Morata money in terms of when its due or possibly having it paid in instalments considering I would assume AM will be feeling the effects of C.V. much more significantly then us in terms of finances. Lawfully I presume we could refuse but I would imagine they have asked for some kind of help 50m a lot of money to find at the best of times let alone now.

I think if we could get a st a winger and lb that would be fantastic but don’t want to be greedy really looking forward to lad from Ajax joining.

Be very interesting to see this team with a decent goal scorer in it I wouldn’t even know where to start I’ve seen a few names on here and online but what’s everyone’s thoughts including Ed’s who do you think we should be looking at we haven’t really had a talisman upfront since Drogba.

Thank you again for your time Ed.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea will listed to proposals that are put to them about the money. Finding a striker will continue to be difficult to find.}

29 May 2020 17:26:12
Thanks enjoy the rest of your day.

{Ed002's Note - And you.}

29 May 2020 18:07:12
Thanks for you’re time Ed.

{Ed002's Note - You are welcome.}

29 May 2020 19:20:06
Lampsy, I've actually become more and more interested in Haller from West Ham. He's one of the absolute best target men in the world, and Chelsea over the past years have looked to be doing better with that kind of striker up front than with a pure goalscorer like Shevchenko, Torres etc.

Physically very strong, and his technique is really underrated to. He's one of the best at getting involved in general attacking play, and due to his immense physique he brings a significant presence in the box. Pretty sure he'd be an excellent target for Reece and Ziyech's crosses from the right!

Another advantage of Haller is that he functions well with another striker next to him, so we'd have some added flexibility in terms of playing Tammy next to him for example when situation calls for it.

The main drawback with him for me is probably his lack of speed to get in behind. But in matches where we expect to have space to work with we could easily go with Tammy instead.

All in all I think he'd make for a very underrated buy and could turn out to be a really good and important player for us. Especially if West Ham were to go down to the Championship (they probably won't) it should be more than possible to get him.
Other than Haller I quite like Moussa Dembele. Perhaps a deal can be done involving Giroud as well, who could maybe become a starter for Lyon then (satisfying his wishes as well in the process) . I'd say Werner or Lautaro as well, but both of them want to play for a specific club that's not Chelsea. So I don't want them then. Odsonne Edouard and Alexander Isak are 2 wildcards. Largely unproven, but clear to see that both are full of talent. The classic risk-reward tradeoff with those.

29 May 2020 20:15:53
Not seen much of Haller but I know a lot of West Ham season ticket holders who would pay us to take him and carry him to West London. Been shocking for them this season apparently, has had very little support but has shown no willingness to get into games.

I can't say he stood out against us last season, did he even play?

I'm fine with Abraham and Giroud as our more target man options. Personally think we need a different option, Werner and Martinez are the best options but highly unlikely signings. Chiesa is a winger who can also play as a central forward, could kill two birds with one stone.

29 May 2020 20:40:47
For sure he hasn't performed like a star at West Ham. But I really don't think we should underestimate the effect of them having played like absolute rubbish this season. Their team is way too good to be struggling to avoid relegation.

I think Haller would look like a completely different player in a better team. In our team ;-)

29 May 2020 21:26:56
Haller's attitude is appalling. Steer well clear.

29 May 2020 22:14:17
Ed002, the young CB that you mentioned. Is he one for the academy team like Brad Young?

{Ed002's Note - Not for the academy - but not for the first team.}

29 May 2020 22:18:47
Oh ok!

30 May 2020 13:19:02
Ed002, who are the 2 young GKS? And will one of them be 3rd choice next season?

{Ed002's Note - Brad Young from Hartlepool will go in to the U23 squad and the other is a youth player. There will be no change to the third choice GK.}

28 May 2020 11:51:40
Apparently Mattia De Sciglio is one of the players Juventus have on their trade block, specifically mentioned as being offered as part of any potential Jorginho deal.

Can play on the left or the right and would be decent for the squad, wouldn't describe him as the answer to a long term left back though.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has no interest in De Sciglio.}

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28 May 2020 13:52:00
Thank god for that, he's shocking. There is a reason why he gets traded around!

28 May 2020 16:59:51
Thank god also. There’s only two players we should even be trying to swap for and that’s a CB we need so either De Ligt or Demiral and chances of them happening are slim to none.

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea has no interest in De Ligt or Demiral.}

28 May 2020 19:37:06
I know that Ed but we do need a commanding CB so if I was the club I’d be after one of them. Both young leaders.

{Ed002's Note - They are not on the list so it is not going to happen.}

27 May 2020 18:27:09
Ed001, what's your opinion on the rumoured players, Telles / Tagliafico / gosens / chillwell and even alonso / emerson, seemed at left back there lots name mentioned, some a lot Cheaper than others.

{Ed001's Note - to be honest only Gosens looks worth pursuing. Tagliafico is far too rash, Chilwell has disappeared up his own backside and Telles is a bit weak for the Prem imo. You would be better sticking with what you have if you are going for any of those 3 I think.}

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27 May 2020 19:26:01
Tagliafico is very good defensively I think with James being quite attacking having Tagliafico on the left will give us good balance. He’s also very good in the air for someone so small.

{Ed001's Note - good in the Dutch league, but struggles in Europe. I am not convinced he is really good enough to step up to the Prem myself.}

27 May 2020 19:45:35
I think people don’t watch him enough to see he’ll be a very good player for us. He’s brave and got a lot of tenacity about him which will help him adjust. He’s also a big leader in the Ajax team something which we’re in need of.

Not a fan of Gosens he’s only good as a wing back and we’ve got one of them in Alonso. We need to find the right balance and that’s why I think Reece and Tagliafico will work well.

27 May 2020 20:34:42
Weren't we also at some point linked to Cucurella? I don't really know much about him though, and it might just be me remembering incorrectly :)

28 May 2020 19:29:53
Ed001, I’ve enjoyed your scouting insight over the years and recall a few gems especially Son who you called being a great fit well before he blew up at Spurs. If you had to identify a leftback that would be suitable to our present need, who would you pick?

{Ed001's Note - actually it would probably be Gosens. Quality left-backs are a rare breed at the moment!}

28 May 2020 21:34:17
Gosens exclusively plays left wingback though, doesn't he, Ed? Atalanta use a 3 at the back system if I'm not mistaken.
You think he could make the transition to a more traditional fullback role?

{Ed001's Note - that is the worry, you are right. I do think he can but it would be a risk.}

29 May 2020 07:33:56
I see him as a faster Alonso, which does sounds an enticing profile.

{Ed001's Note - that's a fair point. If Alonso had pace he would be so much better.}

29 May 2020 12:07:00
Angelino for me looks a great player I know he's City, but I would take him over most.

26 May 2020 16:25:16
I may have heard this wrong ............

{Ed002's Note - You are on the wrong page - you nee the European page.}

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26 May 2020 16:40:04
Ok no worries, I just thought you might all share info.

{Ed002's Note - It is completely unrelated to Chelsea - I will answer it on the appropriate page.}

26 May 2020 16:23:26
Looking forward to Dortmund vs Munich in an hour. Plenty of talent on show especially Hakimi vs Davies will be a top battle. One player who goes under the radar because of Haaland and Sancho at Dortmund is Julian Brandt. What a lovely player he is. Wouldn't mind seeing either him or Havertz at SW6 one day in that LCM role.

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Top 10 Left Midfielders/Wingers/Forwards

26 May 2020 12:00:37
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Top 10 Left Midfielders/Wingers/Forwards

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26 May 2020 14:45:43
Sterling above Hazard is that based on this season?

{Ed001's Note - and last. Hazard doesn't do enough hard work off the ball to match up to his talent, that is why he is not a Pep or Klopp type player and why he is not number 1 and never will be.}

26 May 2020 14:54:34
Let's be honest guys, Hazard was/ is a great player but he simply went missing on occasion and completely downed tools for more than one manager.

{Ed001's Note - that is the big problem. If it was just on talent, he would be up there with Messi and Ronaldo, but it is more than just talent required.}

26 May 2020 16:21:33
I agree Hazard hasn’t lived up to potential or worked as hard as he should but Sterling is a benefit of Peps management. Hazard is 10x the player in my eyes he carried Chelsea for 7 years it’s a shame we never built around him with better players than the ones we signed. I believe only Cesc and Costa were world class and we won the league twice in 3 years when those three played together. Sterling isn’t even near Sane or Mahrez as city’s best winger for me. Although he’s still a very good player.

{Ed001's Note - how can you compare him to Sane? He lost his place to Sterling and was clearly second choice behind him before he got injured. I can't see how you can suggest he isn't a better player. As for Mahrez, what has he to do with the left wing?? Apart from not being half as effective for City as Sterling anyway. This is the problem, you judge players on how flash they are rather than how effective they are for the team.}

26 May 2020 16:43:56
Sterling is more of a Pep player because he arrives at the back post for tap ins which suit his system. Sane for me has better individual quality as does Mahrez. Sterling hasn’t been fantastic this year and Hazard has been injured for majority so it’s an unfair comparison. All about opinions.

26 May 2020 18:30:46
I might be wrong here, but there was a point when Pep really wasn't sure what Sterling offered. Sterling had to take a long hard look at himself and change his game, then it clicked into place for him after (no doubt) hard work on Peps tactics. Now he just gets how Pep wants him to play and he does it so well - all this and he's just 25!

{Ed001's Note - that was when Pep joined, you are right, Pep was looking to sell and then Sterling listened and learnt. Now Pep has him as first choice. That says a lot about him. Though I can never forgive him for the way he left Liverpool, I have to say he has grown as a player since then.}

29 May 2020 08:31:42
Ed do you see any potential for a move to refocus Chilwell, or do you think it'll further enlarge his self opinion?

{Ed001's Note - I think he needs to get a kick up the arse rather than getting more people telling him he is great. So I would worry it would enlarge it. When players are in a phase like he is going through, what they need is for it all to turn against them and wake them up. That is if they are going to fulfil their potential. Look at someone like Vardy or Deeney, both were making a mess of things until it all went wrong for them and they realised they had to knuckle down and work hard. It doesn't mean you can't live life and enjoy yourself too, but the priority has to be hard work on the training pitch. Unfortunately, Brendan Rodgers is not the right man for a player in this kind of phase. He inflates egos (particularly his own which is ridiculously huge) when sometimes you have to know when a player's ego is in need of a check.}

 


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