Chelsea Teams and Match Talk

23 Sep 2025 21:44:27
I guess the only plus is we are in the hat and that should allow match mins for more of our academy players.

Jorgensen desperately trying to make Sanchez look world class and Fernandez continuing his poor start to the season. The second half was marginally better but then that wasn't a big achievement.

Santos again looks ready for a more regular first team spot plus Hato had a better game than his debut.

23 Sep 2025 22:08:26
Good summary Tom. I'd also add that Estevao looks different class. Total awareness of the pitch and rarely misplaces a pass, plus instant control of the ball. Excited to see him more.

23 Sep 2025 22:33:13
Utterly embarrassing performance against a Lincoln side who were resting many of their first choice players!

Yes we won but so many of our players looked dreadful. At least George scored a v good goal 0lus provided an assist for Mr Good Night who looked ok at times but should have grabbed a second. We looked more like a non. league side playing a league 1 side than club world champions

Oh dear Jorgensen making no claim to start ahead of Sanchez or Donald Duck.

We were largely just awful amd some of that may be on the manager while some on quality of our ' B' team newbies but yes we are in the next round.

One to forget as soon as possible.

23 Sep 2025 22:44:47
EdW, spot on mate. Estevao is one of those players who always plays with his head up. Fantastic prospect.

23 Sep 2025 22:52:42
I do agree about Estevao.

24 Sep 2025 10:33:00
Jorgensen certainly did himself no favours but if Sanchez is our no1 it says it all about our Gzk recruitment.

I'm getting fed up with the fact we seem to always start sluggish, whether that is down to the players or coach, who knows.

Also we seem to struggle with long throws which is a problem as many teams are using g this tatic this season.

Regarding EF, maybe with all the rumours about RM, his head has been turned.

24 Sep 2025 11:41:32
The least said the better regarding that game. I doubt many of our players have experienced that level of physicality before and the old school barrage of hoof ball. It reminded me of Wimbledon back in the day and was fun to watch. I thought Santos was very good as was Fofana, Gittens and the Brighton lad looked lively and George does have that rocket of a shot but didn't do much else. Enzo, Gusto and Hato were poor and Trev had another stinker but the performance of Jorgensen in the last 2 games is making Sanchez look like a worldie! let's hope he stays injury and suspension free until Penders comes back.

24 Sep 2025 12:00:37
I think that EF may well need a rest after almost not stop playing since joining us after winning world cup with Argentina and winning young players of the tournament. When at his best he is a fine player. Hecwss pretty good in last half of last season and chipping in with quite a few key goals. I fear that participation in the CWC including that very high energy and fine all round team performance in final. msy bevtaking it's toll now. Reckon some players last night didn't really want to be playing that game and certainly not having to expend the amount of energy proved necessary to beat a second string Lincoln side. TC almost waved the Lincoln player through for his well taken goal. What was worrying was how few of our second stringers beyond George seized their chance to really impress. One who did for me was Buenonotte who took his chance to score after George pass v well but was generally looked ok.

But CWC triumph as feated may now be taking its toll in terms of injuries and energy levels and we don't know who including perhaps EF or Caicedo may be suffering in this respect or even carrying slight injuries. The risk of playing Palmer v United seems wrong choice by EM even if CP said he felt ok in. lead up. Sometimes players need to be protected from themselves in case injury made much worse.

24 Sep 2025 12:13:10
Agree they were fun to watch RPD. Arguably they deserved a lot more from the game. Their forward, Draper I think – supposedly a Chelsea fan as well! – trying to pick fights with Gusto, Fernandez and pretty much everyone else was funny. Often I feel like our players really don't want to scrap. It's pretty easy to rile them with physicality. Fernandez is all bark and no bite - there was a moment that made me laugh when he went to back up Gusto after a challenge from that Draper guy – he was all ready to square up until he got a bit closer and saw the size of him, then just kind of gave it some verbally at a distance.

24 Sep 2025 18:24:52
Edw, I’m surprised that the physicality of how Lincoln approached the game has been used as an excuse for a p**s poor performance. How did anyone think Lincoln would play? Set pieces and long throws are also used in the Premier League. If our defenders can’t cope with it; that is worrying. There is definitely an issue with mentality in this squad.

24 Sep 2025 20:38:35
The homophobic abuse aimed at Garnacho last night was terrible and every word could be heard, in fairness the stadium announcer did ask for it to stop at HT but it just carried on and was directed at us as well. No place in football and not a mention anywhere in the press or on sky.

24 Sep 2025 21:03:50
Greenaway, that is very sad and as a club we seem to get more than most of that type of abuse!

26 Sep 2025 13:24:09
Jimbo, I agree. Why would they not be physical if they're big lads and can get under the skin of the PL players?

Greenaway – I'd not seen anything about that until you mentioned it. Poor from their fans. Thanks for the info.

23 Sep 2025 21:42:47
Positives we won
Buenenotti looks a player seconfd half much better. George quality.

Negatives first half performance our inability to defend long throws. and I never thought I would type this but Sanchez is nos 1 because our nos 2 sad to say looks really poor.

23 Sep 2025 22:10:47
Early days but so far it’s easy to see why we could only get Buenenotti on a straight loan, got a good first touch that gives him time and space. He should get lots of game time this season.

23 Sep 2025 22:37:28
Spot on with only positives seymns2 and George who we almost sold made likes of Garnacho and Gittens look a waste of money. But v early days and looked like a game Maresca and most of our players didn't care much about. Lincoln win would not have been undeserved!

23 Sep 2025 22:38:08
Yes and Jorgensen flipping terrifying game!

23 Sep 2025 20:33:44
Arrogant and disjointed performance. Showing no respect for any team is not exceptable at any level.

Fernandez has continued with his poor start to the season but I'm struggling to think of how EM changes what to me is more about attitude. Maybe a good old fashioned b@llocking!

23 Sep 2025 22:03:37
Hasnt got it in him; enzo has been poor from the start of the season yet picked every game we were out fought all over the pitch it’s upsetting to what this team was to where we are as a team and with all the money spent, we are a mid table team, I no we are rebuilding but so far it looks like we’re using to much sand it’s crumbling everywhere goal keepers are terrible both of them back line shocking and you wouldn’t put any of them in bar cucurella in the top five teams some wouldn't even make the bench. The Brighton boy enzo gittens aren’t great are they give gittens time as he’s only moved to prem but he looks like a duck out water
Garnacho played ok looked lively without troubling George with a wonder strike but his all round play is awful estavo didn’t really get into it and the style of play 1700 passes 1600 in own half with a good slow playing football ending in 2 shots on target boring everyone to sleep has EM name all over it. But but a wins a win.

23 Sep 2025 22:15:12
I thought Gittens looked better than Garnacho.

As I keep saying Fernandez hasn’t started the season well but we all know much he improved throughout last season and how good he was in the CWC tournament. I’m sure we will see him back to his best as the season progresses.

24 Sep 2025 12:02:42
I agree about EF Tom and also think he shouldn't be playing every game. He looks as though he needs more rotation.

23 Sep 2025 16:42:19
Hopefully none of the 1st 11 playing on Saturday play tonight. Enzo needs to trust the reserves and the academy

The club world cup win was great but the injury's are mounting up due to the players not having a sustained rest.

Aithough didn't play the last couple ogf games see Madueke has an injury that will keep him out for a while at Arsenal .

The players need to play less and strength of squad is more important for the top teams.

23 Sep 2025 20:36:06
Enzo needs to leave champions league winners to his sh£t.

24 Sep 2025 07:18:06
I assuming that your post is asking for our manager to be sacked?

24 Sep 2025 12:08:06
Spot on about CWC taking its toll on players and the question is how many of the new signings are ready to assist rotation of CWC ones by being up to speed or good enough to start in EPL. Last night plus first half v Brentford not that encouraging in this respect but hopefully they may get there! Buenonotte looks promising and Garnacho should be able to having extensive EPL experience already. But why hasn't Guiu put in an appearance yet if only especially last night?!

24 Sep 2025 12:30:29
I think it was believed Guiu was cup tied but I also think that situation has now been resolved and he could be available for the next round.

20 Sep 2025 20:53:31
I'm sorry lads but I keep forgetting to say, we should definitely have got a pen for the foul on Pedro.

21 Sep 2025 10:01:15
Tom

We were playing ManU for goodness sake, we should not be relying on penalties like they do, to beat them, we should have beaten them in our sleep.

21 Sep 2025 10:53:18
Bill it was an observation and these sort of decisions can influence performances and results. I think the ref and VAR were asleep.

21 Sep 2025 11:19:25
Like our GK and back line?

21 Sep 2025 11:37:34
Bill, of course if players have a bad game it can influence a performance or result.

Certainly Chalaboa and Caicedo were asleep for there first goal and our defenders and goalkeeper were like statues for there second. Again this is just an observation.

20 Sep 2025 19:49:44
Having seen the Sanchez sending off from behind the goal and although I still believe Chalaboa has to take a share of the blame alongside Caicedo, both were asleep. The majority of the blame, in my opinion, is Sanchez.

As I said in an earlier post, Jorgensen has to do better for there second. Not only were our defenders behaving like statues, the keeper has to go for that ball.

20 Sep 2025 20:20:24
Tom

In fairness to Jorgensen, he never gets a run of games to prove himself, Sanchez however had many games to prove he should be nowhere near a football pitch.

20 Sep 2025 20:41:48
Tom, the reality is neither of our keepers are good enough but you are right about the defensive errors. Our CBs are okay but not top class, therefore a huge area of weakness . The same issues are reoccurring, therefore, the coaching and tactics need to be questioned.

20 Sep 2025 22:06:49
Bill, I will praise a player when he plays well but be critical if they don’t. Sanchez was much improved for about the last ten games of last season, had a good CWC and has just about been ok ish this season. He also made one of the best saves I’ve seen from a Chelsea keeper against Bayern.

Today he made a mistake and he is being rightfully criticised.

I have no idea how good Jorgensen is bug he kept us in the conference league final and j think deserves a chance but he made a mistake today.

Knowing that Utd were likely to start with Sesko, I would have started with Tosin. I would have also brought on Guiu rather than George.

Coaching and tactics always have to be questioned after any defeat.

Contrary to some, I think Caicedo makes us tick and on occasion almost carries the team but like the game on Wednesday he wasn’t at his magnificent best today. Enzo also hasn’t started the season well be it he didn’t last season and then became a very valuable player for the team.

I think the Palmer injury could be worse than being reported. He is having injections to play and apparently didn’t train all week.

Anyway, as I’ve said Santos was the big plus.

20 Sep 2025 19:40:13
Very poor performance for the four mins we were 11 v 11 and we got overwhelmed when it was 11 v 10 This big disappointment was our performance when it was 10 v 10.

I thought we looked leggy and second best in most areas of the pitch.

The only plus for me was Santos.

21 Sep 2025 01:44:17
Yes better then enzo.

21 Sep 2025 09:42:19
So if players are not playing well or are carrying injuries, who is the person who keeps picking them week in, week out?

21 Sep 2025 10:31:14
Bill, the manager. My guess is that ALL managers make calls week in week out about playing players who are not 100% fit and they also have a decision to make about playing a player who is out of form. Or when a player makes a mistake that cost the club points. That’s why they get paid the big bucks.

If they make to many poor decisions they generally get the sack.

20 Sep 2025 19:06:37
Enzo Fernandez. £100m. I still don't see it. Or anything like it, really.

20 Sep 2025 20:04:57
Edw, he improved all through last season and was good in the CWC but he hasn’t started this season well. Time for a fortnight off.

20 Sep 2025 19:49:44
Having seen the Sanchez sending off from behind the goal and although I still believe Chalaboa has to take a share of the blame alongside Caicedo, both were asleep. The majority of the blame, in my opinion, is Sanchez.

As I said in an earlier post, Jorgensen has to do better for there second. Not only were our defenders behaving like statues, the keeper has to go for that ball.

20 Sep 2025 19:40:13
Very poor performance for the four mins we were 11 v 11 and we got overwhelmed when it was 11 v 10 This big disappointment was our performance when it was 10 v 10.

I thought we looked leggy and second best in most areas of the pitch.

The only plus for me was Santos.

20 Sep 2025 19:06:37
Enzo Fernandez. £100m. I still don't see it. Or anything like it, really.

21 Sep 2025 08:38:18
Maybe he would be ok if we had paid £50m for him!

He isn’t playing well at the moment but then Caicedo hasn’t played well for the last couple of games and that makes a huge difference.