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15 Feb 2025 10:55:15
Rumours that we are looking to sell Jackson hopefully not truw, think he would be really good playing wide with a top nos 9 in the middle
Certain players should be untouchable regarding sales Palmer Cacaido clearly two best players.
I would put Jackson Colwill Cucarella Lavia when fit in the next group.
If a first 11 player is sold for big money should be Enzo.
1.) 15 Feb 2025 11:54:19
Seymns, I have long held the view that our current owners are running CFC as a business and that is fine.
My guess is every player at CFC has a price. I’ve said I no longer feel an attachment towards my club and that includes, sadly, the players.
2.) 15 Feb 2025 12:21:36
Tom B same with me, I actually think i lost the close attatchment during the Roman years although we were succesful so many players came in, guess that has always been the case maybe it's an age thing.
Felt the closest to the team during the Dixon Speedie Nevin team guess it's a time of life thing football's importance lessens when wife and kids come along
Obviously still want us to do well.
3.) 15 Feb 2025 12:40:08
Howcis it fine Tom, first and foremost CFC is a football club, the business should follow.
If they think they are running a business, my God they are hopeless at that as well, no FOS losing circa £40mil this season and every fan knows ww need a much larger stadium, again losing money each season.
I would like to know why in gods name our so called beloved CST and CPO thought they were the best people to take our club forward because at the moment, they are very poor owners to day the least, u would put them on par with the Glazers.
4.) 15 Feb 2025 13:08:13
Bill, in my opinion they bought the club as an investment. They will run it as a business and if that means their core product is buying and selling players there is little we can do about it.
The stadium debate has been done to death and is hardly the fault of our present owners alone.
I have nothing to compare them with they have spent huge amounts of money, so I guess that proves some sort of desire for success. I guess I see them more like the spuds owners but on steroids.
5.) 15 Feb 2025 13:11:22
Bill I think they are better owners than the Glazers maybe they are deluded as to to how easy it was going to be naive but they have put money into the team albeit spent badly. Would rather have them in charge than Oldham Jim at Man Utd.
It was always going to be tough to follow Roman obviously we won the CL with Tuchel but towards the end of the Roman years we were in decline.
6.) 15 Feb 2025 13:13:32
Seymns, I think I started feeling detached when the Bates v Harding debate got out of control. The successful years under Roman were brilliant but when that regime started selling players that had come through the academy and who I thought we be the new foundation of our club it dawned on me that nothing has really changed from the days of selling Greaves to rescue the club or Ossie and Wilkins.
It’s the club I love so unfortunately I have to put up with some of the people associated with it.
7.) 15 Feb 2025 13:24:49
TomB the Bates harding era was strange who knows what would have happened if Harding hadn't been killed,
My detatchment partly happened as I moved out of London and I don't get to the Bridge hardly at all these days.
8.) 15 Feb 2025 13:31:33
Tom
I agree that we all love the club which is why we are so passionate about ownership, SD's, coaches and players both academy and bought.
I also agree with you on the Bates, Harding issue.
The present ownership, like Roman are losing money hand over fist so I'm not quite sure how they will get their investment back never mind making a profit which I know private equity like to do for their investors.
9.) 15 Feb 2025 14:31:15
Bill, from what I have read there is an opinion that says our club was seriously undervalued when it was sold to our current owners. There is also a theouabout potential sports revenue schemes going through the roof in seasons to come.
The reported losses we very likely turn to profit as the clubs recruitment ambitions change over the next few seasons.
10.) 15 Feb 2025 14:41:23
the owners will sell any player theyl profit from make no mistake about it and i would sell jackson he's not good enough like the majority of our squad.
11.) 15 Feb 2025 15:11:22
Any chance on selling our SD's and Maresca?
12.) 15 Feb 2025 16:16:35
Seymns and Bill, I knew Mathew Harding reasonably well and he wasn’t the nicest person in the world and on the other side we had Bates who was maybe one of the most difficult people in the world. It was always a recipe for disaster.
Just as a very small footnote the widow and family of MH played an important part in the transformation of CFC and that for me should never be forgotten.!
13.) 15 Feb 2025 18:44:07
Regardless of there goal, whether it's building a winning side or a successful money making business, they're doing appallingly. We lost out on £40m this season with no fos sponsor and I can't think of a single player other than palmer who would definitely sell for more than we paid for them. Enzo, caicedo, neto, mudryk, fofana and more would almost certainly net us a loss. Doesn't mean they're bad players but there value is much lower than what it was.
14.) 15 Feb 2025 19:20:03
The maths of the FOS sponsor is interesting. As I’ve said before and I am only guessing a one season deal even at £40 may not be as beneficial to a long term deal. Obviously the term of any deal will be subject to us potentially qualifying for the CL and our participation in the WCC.
15.) 16 Feb 2025 10:15:22
Come on Tom really. There has been zero benefit to not having a sponsor this year no matter how it's spun. If we get a multi year sponsor next year, it won't be 'we'll done' it'll be why didny we get a short term sponsor?
16.) 16 Feb 2025 10:24:49
Tom
We will definitely participate in the WCC, for how long that's another question.
Regarding qualifying for the CL, forget it, we are 6th and sliding fast.
17.) 16 Feb 2025 13:33:33
I am not “spinning” anything. I have made it clear several times that mathematically there could be a financial case for not agreeing to a long term FOS deal. i have also made it very clear that I am guessing.
I have no idea if a short term FOS deal was available without including the WCC but I am happy to except any information on that subject. My guess is that adding the WCC to a long term deal and a potential campaign in next season’s Champions League would offer one hell of a lot of money. Of course there is also a risk attached to such a commercial decision.
18.) 16 Feb 2025 15:54:44
As Greavesy used to say: “ It’s a funny old game”. Every PL club will have to pay£1 million to the PL for their legal costs and cock-up with APT rules and Everton and Forest each paid £2 million to try and get themselves relegated. Football was the peoples game because no matter how poor you were you could play and it was affordable to watch for working people. Those days are gone but look at Germany where the fans have a majority shares in their clubs. A season ticket for Bayern Munich can be bought for £104 ( obviously long waiting lists) The president of Bayern, Uli Hoeness commented about Bayern’s refusal to increase ticket prices said: “ we do not think fans are like cows, who you can milk”.
19.) 16 Feb 2025 16:26:34
Jimbo, I had no idea that is the ST price at BM. What brilliant value and what a heart warming comment from there president.
A West Ham supporter mate was telling me the other week that when the owners of the happy hammers put forward the case for moving to the Olympic stadium was an increase in stadium capacity would bring down the price of seats and ST’s. Apparently the reverse has happened.
Moooooo.
20.) 16 Feb 2025 20:41:46
I’m on not an account but a brief look at the BM accounts would suggest they have about £100m more revenue than the gooners, £150m more than the spuds and about £200m more than us.
They also have about fifteen players being paid more than €200k per week.
The strange thing is even if we increased our revenue to the BM levels I couldn’t see us bringing down our ST prices.
21.) 16 Feb 2025 23:00:37
Can I ask why Colwill? I think he’s been a massive disappointment. He’s good on the ball but his defending is awful. He’s so weak!
I do agree that Jackson would make a quality left winger as he still has so much to his game. We missed a trick not singing Jhon Duran he’s going to be a brilliant striker. So complete for a youngster and he’s a great target man something we desperately lack right now.
22.) 03 Mar 2025 21:41:13
Imo I have long known tomb as a hypocrite. When you state the obvious, he downplays it only to turn around and admit it later. I had long time ago said that the boely and Co are only interested in the business aspects of the club and not on the pitch success as roman did. But came in heavily on their defence against it.
Now he's telling us that he had long seen that the new owners are this and that.
Saw some reports that the fans on ground, not tombs, were on some protests against how the club is headed in wrong direction since boely and Co. We will constantly be on the case else we are becoming a shadow of the club we were. Some claim to be more Chelsea than the rest but are just delusional.
23.) 04 Mar 2025 08:18:40
Tussle, can I suggest that you spend less time worrying about my opinions and posts and more time supporting the club.
I didn’t attend the Southampton game so I no personal knowledge of the protest you mentioned but I am told it was a bit of a damp squib.
I would have also thought that the club being successful would have been good news for the owners business investment.
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13 Apr 2025 14:46:08
Not watching the match if the result stays the same 0-2 at time of post we will not make top 5 Ipswich doing the double over us is not very good,
1.) 13 Apr 2025 17:40:52
It is indicative of where we are as a team seymns. I don't think we have a very good team unfortunately. We have to be perfect from here on out to salvage the champions league this season, and while I'll support and back them, I think are odds are very slim. Next season, let's hope we improve.
09 Mar 2025 16:34:30
Maybe my previous post of Kepa being our best Keeeper was because I have seen him play for a while poor mistake for the Spurs pen.
1.) 09 Mar 2025 18:50:29
He's the best of a bad bunch mate.
We have £130 million worth of goalkeepers. It really is ridiculous. Petrovic had a good season last year and the idea was to ship him. How they're still in jobs is miraculous.
2.) 09 Mar 2025 20:20:18
I have no idea if Petrovic, Pinder or Jörgensen will be top keepers.
I live in hope for Costa but in my opinion it ain’t going to happen!
3.) 09 Mar 2025 21:50:16
Sorry, I miss typed. I don't think they're all bad keepers but I don't think they're fantastic, any of them. All of them are pretty flawed. I genuinely think we should have just kept kepa these last couple years if we weren't going to actually upgrade the position.
It still annoys me we spent 25m +5m add ons for sanzhez. Literally no one thought it would work out as Brighton's third choice and predictably, it hasn't.
4.) 10 Mar 2025 01:41:08
I honestly didn’t know a thing about Sanchez but I normally give players a long period of time before I make my mind up.
A minority of supporters within the ground booing when his name was called out will never sit well with me!
5.) 10 Mar 2025 09:57:33
Tom
What I don't get for the life of me is that Sanchez had the first half of the season and so far most of the second to constantly make error after error yet Jorgi has just had a few games.
It is obvious that Maresca did nor want to dtop Sanchez but just provided lip service for a few games.
For this alone Maresca is mot the coachvwe meed to move us forward.
6.) 10 Mar 2025 10:32:15
I was surprised to see Sanchez between the sticks against Leicester but we kept a clean sheet.
I have no idea why Jörgensen didn’t play. I also don’t see why picking Sanchez is a reason for EM to be sacked.
7.) 10 Mar 2025 12:43:50
I agree Tom booing the team at the stadium is disgusting.
8.) 10 Mar 2025 13:29:40
Standard, just to clarify and I’m sure this is just a me thing but I’m not sure I have much of a problem when with booing “the team” at the end of a match if a performance warrants it.
I do have a problem when booing is directed at individuals at any time on match days or at the team at half time.
9.) 10 Mar 2025 14:42:30
Bill agree with you re Sanchez should still be Jorgenson, don't think we will find out who Maresca thinks is no 1 until the Arsenal game.
Sanchez very nearly cost us a goal just gives me no confidence.
10.) 11 Mar 2025 21:54:11
Agree tom. No matter the ability as long as there's efforts I would never boo a player. Or abuse them on there social media. Both are ridiculous imo but I really think criticism on forums Is okay lol.
28 Feb 2025 07:24:14
Have just been reading quotes from Todd Boenly and I know a few will disagree but I like him as an owner and think he will be a successful owner if he is able to buy out clearlake. The odd negative like owning shares in the ticket resell agency but his investments in other sports teams look to be positive and they don't shy away from spending money.
He admits it's been a steep learning curve and they got things wrong
In my opinion if possible the sooner he can buy out Clearlake the better . having joint owners who want different things cannot be good .
Sure many will disagree but we could of done a lot worse for owners when at the time the clubs very existence was up in the air.
As with most things time will tell
I think some part of this ownership have to be in charge for a set number of years as part of the deal to buy the club if this is true I hope this is Boehly .
1.) 28 Feb 2025 08:45:47
Seymns,
I believe that all or part of the ownership cannot sell the Club for 10 years.
I agree totally that joint ownership does not work (nor does joint SD's) however I'm pretty sure Clearlake have made it clear that if one goes, it's going to be Bohely. I think we are going to have to stumble along with joint ownership.
I also noticed that after nearly 3 years we are no nearer to a decision on SB and that to me is already a total failure by the ownership.
2.) 28 Feb 2025 12:26:56
Seymns, I have only read the report on the TB presentation.
I read as him being quite a horizontal character who sounds comfortable with his investment. He target one barbed comment at the uk press and I think that he and Clearlake have learned a valuable lesson on that score. The joint ownership thing doesn’t really bother me and neither does having two SD’s.
Bill, you keep bring up the SB development and making comments as if nothing is happening. The Club has bought a piece of land that could be useful if they decide to redevelop SB but they are still looking at alternatives. This was made very clear a few days ago when a senior CFC was asked questions at a CPO meeting. No doubt the summary of that meeting will appear in the CPO mins.
These owners are understandably looking at all the options today and potential options tomorrow. RA had the club for 18 years ish and didn’t lay a brick but he apparently did try to “arrange” the purchase of the CPO freehold and give us a a lovely model of a ground that will in all probability never be built.
3.) 28 Feb 2025 12:28:26
Tod Boehly has made mistakes particularly at the beginning but he is a sports person he improved the fortunes of the LA Dodgers and redeveloped their stadium. I doubt whether he could buy out Clearlake. As for the stadium I agree a decision should be made, however, RA could not solve it and there are numerous obstacles that are well documented. I doubt very much that a new stadium will be built on the current site. I am sure that if a suitable site was available and the CPO approved the owners would get on with it but that too seems improbable.
4.) 28 Feb 2025 13:43:02
I am convinced that the far to often maligned CPO will trade the freehold of Stamford Bridge and the CFC name if the correct assurances are given by these owners or any other owner.
I am also convinced that RA would have got the CPO’s blessing if the correct procedure had been followed. I will put that episode down to poor advice.
5.) 28 Feb 2025 16:01:33
I think buying out Clearlake is a possibility but they would need to make money on their investment, and Boehly would probably need some help with the finance,
6.) 28 Feb 2025 17:55:47
Hi Tom, I hope you are well.
I make mo apologies going after pur owners re the SB project.
They came into the club shouting out loud about either redeveloping SB or a new build somewhere else.
To date they have bought land but who knows if will assist the development or is just another asset for Blue Co.
7.) 28 Feb 2025 21:50:55
Bill, the redevelopment of SB or a move to a location that meets the criteria that’s makes the CPO and general supporter happy will take as much time as it took RA.
I’m not sure why the present owners are coming in for pelters on an issue that will not be addressed for years. We are based in Chelsea/ Fulham not Niirth or East London.
8.) 01 Mar 2025 08:27:36
Or Manchester, Merseyside, the North East and finally the Midlands.
I say this because Liverpool increased their capacity, Everton built a new ground, Newcastle are near announcement of a new stadium rebuild and Aston Villa will do the same, and then their is us 3 years down the line with no decision, no doubt that will suit the CPO down to rge ground as they still hold control over what owners can do.
The idea of the CPO when set up was to protect the future of our club, not to hinder it.
Sorry Tom, this is not a dug at you as I know you are a CPO, but the entity in general.
9.) 01 Mar 2025 09:34:38
Bill, you have to get a few things straight about the CPO. Yes it was set up to protect the name and the the housing development of Stamford Bridge. The vote that took place while RA was the the owner became a farce when it was obvious that a third party was trying to buy up a substantial amount of CPO shares so as to secure the required 75% majority vote.
After that episode there are some CPO members who will want assurances. I personally voted in favour of the RA proposal but I can understand some shareholders concerns.
There are supposedly restrictions on expanding the existing ground, apparently the most most bizarre being a view of St Paul’s from a mound in Richmond. On top of that we have a two railways and a cemetery that restricts certain proposals. All these restrictions are just as much outside of the current owners control as they were with RA’s. I can almost guarantee you that the CPO will sell the Freehold and naming rights back to the club when its long term future is secured. That is what it was set up to do and that’s what it will do.
Comparing the new build of Everton’s ground to Chelsea just isn’t reasonable. As far as I know there is only one piece of land that could be available within about a five mile radius of Chelsea’s current stadium and that opportunity looks extremely unlikely as the current owners have put forward a plan without a football stadium. With all due respect to Villa and Newcastle we are located in probably the most expensive area of the UK. I personally would be happy to move away completely from the Chelsea area but can you imagine the uproar from probably the majority of fans?
I’m not a builder or a planning expert but I would just rebuild the East Stand and Shed End but I’m sure the club have looked at all the options.
10.) 01 Mar 2025 10:03:02
Bill, I should have added that the Chairman of the CPO at its annual meeting touched on the subject of any SB development. He sighted the ongoing communication between the club owners and the CPO and gave an opinion that there the process is likely to take a long time. The Chairman also reminded its shareholders of the unique purpose of the CPO.
11.) 01 Mar 2025 12:59:51
Tom
What happened about building down at SB, that seems to have gone the same way as all rhe other nob plans.
I'm passionate about this project as I want future generations to have a club still rated as one if the best in the world and is competitive. Sadly it won't be if we don't develop or move away.
12.) 01 Mar 2025 13:29:32
IBill, I understand why some fans and my guess the owners want to increase our stadium fan capacity but as I have said many times I can’t see it happening in the next ten years. RA struggled to find a viable solution and just can’t see our current owners finding a solution.
Also, let me make it clear and this is my opinion and maybe the opinion of the majority of CPO’s that if a workable plan is ever put forward to the CPO shareholders along with the security laid out it’s articles of corporation then then CPO shareholders will almost certainly give that project the green light.
I can’t think another club in the uk that has an CPO type model. Although I believe some German clubs have fan ownership/ shareholding that at a pinch I suppose could be described as similar.
13.) 01 Mar 2025 19:12:05
Tom, I will wait and see what the owners plans are for SB. The CPO is nothing like the system in Germany where the supporters own 51% of the club and influence who the presidents etc are. You are bigging up the CPO. There is no point in redeveloping the East Stand and Shed End it would not significantly increase capacity or made the stadium fit for the 21st century. I have no idea what the decision will be but it is more likely to do nothing. If that is the case, we will need success on the field, top class sponsorship and ticket price increases. I don’t see either of the first two happening.
14.) 01 Mar 2025 19:49:24
Jimbo, I have no idea if seating capacity would be increased if the East Stand and Shed end were rebuilt and made in my opinion fit for purpose. The hotels should also be knocked down.
I thought I made it clear that that my comparison was at a “pinch” with any German model. My tenuous comparison is more about the responsibility afforded to the CPO. It was formed to protect football on the Stamford Bridge site and that club will be called CFC. As far as I know that is a unique UK football club responsibility. I am proud to be a CPO shareholder and can honestly say there has only been one occasion when I have heard overwhelming discontent from its members/ shareholders towards any owner. I’m.
15.) 01 Mar 2025 21:31:12
Tom, I am fully aware of why the CPO was formed. The real test would be if the the option put forward was to move to a different site. Frankly, the idea of of a brand new stadium on the existing site is unrealistic. I await the club’s decision with interest.
16.) 02 Mar 2025 02:38:42
I can only see problems happening if the owners wanted to move a long way from SB.
17.) 02 Mar 2025 11:35:30
It's quite clear that where we are situated is hindering the Bridge development.
The only option is to move and if that helps us to gemrow financially, I really don't mind where.
The CPO can keep the ground but I can't for the life of me see what good it does them by keeping the name.
Who knows, ww might end up in the MLS as Chelsea Amwrica FC, is that what the CPO want?
18.) 02 Mar 2025 12:42:47
Bill the CPO can only keep the ground for the use of football not for any other potential development. If I remember correctly the RA point was that no move from SB could be afforded without the sale of SB and the revenue from the sale went towards any new build. Again if remember correctly that any new stadium build had to within a three mile radius of SB. To me that seemed a reasonable proposal. I remain convinced that the vote would have been different if there had not been evidence of pre vote share purchases from a small amount of people.
The name issue is very important. If the current owners ever wished to do a Wimbledon type move then they can’t use the name CFC. I think that is perfectly reasonable.
27 Feb 2025 08:55:17
Just read that Fofana is not in our Europa Conference squad, not that surprising as he had an injury, but the inclusion of Mudryk is weird unless the club know something they can't say, the B sample is taking much longer than normal just seems a bit strange.
1.) 27 Feb 2025 09:29:01
I get that Fofana has not been included, he will probably be injured again soon.
Mudryk is weird, maybe the club is still hoping for some good news.
2.) 01 Mar 2025 11:18:36
As I posted a few weeks ago a mate told me that the so called “B” sample had come back negative or marginal. Whatever marginal is in these circumstances.
I didn’t believe my mate then and I’m still not convinced that a “B” sample can be any different from the original test results.
13 Feb 2025 14:30:26
The fact that Maresca stated that they have never regarded Nkunku as a No 9 or a false 9 makes a couple of the transfers decision really strange why buy Felix .
And no striker when anyone can see we needed one.
Glad to hear Jorgenson is now the no 1 keeper hope he gets a run to find out if he is good enough or not.
1.) 13 Feb 2025 15:20:35
Seymns, I think a lot of us couldn’t see the logic in signing Felix and that is not a criticism of his ability. Of course not signing Felix would probably not have given more game time to Nkunku because he wouldn’t have been picked in front of Palmer.
The Jorgenson decision is long overdue in my opinion and let’s hope he solves our long running goalkeeper issues.
2.) 13 Feb 2025 18:32:03
But Felix can play as a false 9 perhaps in way Nkunku not suited to.
3.) 13 Feb 2025 18:43:07
JBS, Did he play as a false nine on his previous stint with us? ……I don’t remember.
4.) 13 Feb 2025 19:21:49
We've known Nkunku wasn't a 9 for years. He's a CAM.
5.) 13 Feb 2025 20:00:52
Shaft or belt?
6.) 14 Feb 2025 21:40:40
Can’t believe merasca never stuck Felix as 10 and palmer on the right more often.
09 Apr 2025 23:30:03
I rate Delap and can easily see a partnership with Jackson working well but I expect a few teams will be in for him.
15 Feb 2025 13:24:49
TomB the Bates harding era was strange who knows what would have happened if Harding hadn't been killed,
My detatchment partly happened as I moved out of London and I don't get to the Bridge hardly at all these days.
15 Feb 2025 13:11:22
Bill I think they are better owners than the Glazers maybe they are deluded as to to how easy it was going to be naive but they have put money into the team albeit spent badly. Would rather have them in charge than Oldham Jim at Man Utd.
It was always going to be tough to follow Roman obviously we won the CL with Tuchel but towards the end of the Roman years we were in decline.
15 Feb 2025 12:21:36
Tom B same with me, I actually think i lost the close attatchment during the Roman years although we were succesful so many players came in, guess that has always been the case maybe it's an age thing.
Felt the closest to the team during the Dixon Speedie Nevin team guess it's a time of life thing football's importance lessens when wife and kids come along
Obviously still want us to do well.
10 Feb 2025 14:46:25
The odd normal half reliable sources have also picked this up, no idea if it is true.
But it is undeniably strange that it is taking so long, I did read an article that if is B sample was negative and the A sample was positive due to cross contamination in the testing this would open a huge can of worms and invalidate previous tests no idea if this is true
Apparently B samples that are negative are in the 3-5% range
Also strange that the story has gone so quiet.
19 Apr 2025 22:44:39
Jimbo I agree on Rashford should be avoided at all costs, like I posted earlier with the exception of Isak and Kane both unrealistic can't see many great forwards out there.
19 Apr 2025 09:58:37
Like Delap a bit inexperienced but he is one for the future but we haven't plenty of those players need an experienced striker but I can't remember a time when there are so few decent stikers around Osimhen isn't a top striker in my eyes not sure what experience strikers would be available in the Prem only Isak looks top quality and that is not going to happen, Wood at Forest and Matetta at Palace have had good seasons but neither appeal to me.
Gyokores looked good at Cov haven't seen much of him.
Maybe best to wait, have a total irrational feeling that we will end up with Rashford.
18 Apr 2025 14:19:23
Carlo Ancelotti would be great can't see it though.
17 Apr 2025 23:42:45
NOT Jose, if Maresca goes there are many managers that should be employed before Jose,
16 Apr 2025 06:19:27
Quite like Delap, but the team does need more experience if we could get him for non riduculous money Watkins at Villa might be worth a punt.