Chelsea Banter Archive August 26 2013

 

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26 Aug 2013 23:35:27
Chelsea fc in my eyes needed to stop leaking goals and at the minute joee has done that and poeople are moaning get the defence sorted then wrk on attack its going to take time because mourinho is back he's not going to be able to fix everything it will still take time {Ed018's Note - there should be no moaning from anyone. We just took a point away at United. No complaints from me}

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26 Aug 2013 23:00:09
What is going on? Why is Jose not starting Lukaka and Mata.Torres was a complete joke AGAIN when he came on. {Ed018's Note - we got a point, lets not be to upset}

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26 Aug 2013 22:49:11
First; decent result today, not a scintilating performance but defensive solidarity and a few decent half-chances. much better result for us than MU.

Second; Welcome back Ed002, so glad you're back and I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say your work is VERY appreciated and probably underrated too! And thanks to all other Eds that kept the page ticking over for the last weeks.

COYB!

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26 Aug 2013 22:46:57
Glad to see Ed002 back. Now on the game honestly think the draw at oldtrafford is a good result perhaps my problem was the way we went about it. Too defensive with the players we have. Mou obviously one of the best and i'm not going to question his line up(well except for mata) but really think even with the team we started with we should have done a better job offensively. We should play to our players strengths hazard not looking good not given the ball quick enough, he is playing too deep. Good point tho. Looking forward to see which striker that comes in for us cause we honestly need one .
Up chelsea!

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Why is everyone ignoring Lukaka. I agree we need a world class striker, buy he is the best we have at mo. Also Mata should start, proven Chelsea legend over the past two seasons.

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26 Aug 2013 22:33:06
On a bright note, our defence looked good today. RVP totally kept quiet. Shame we didn't win, but going to Old Trafford is never easy, so a draw isn't bad.
The line-up and subs weren't 100% to my liking, but who am I.
In José we trust

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Yeah nice humility Jackson, had Rafa or RDM picked that squad and had the same results you and everyone else would be crying about the opportunity lost to set the city of Manchester aflame and for their pharmacies to run out of anxiety and depression medication especially with citys weekend result.

But no we cannot question Jose. Honestly I don't see anything special about him and if he keeps this up he won't make it to January because it will soon cost us results. No excuses for his team selection or treatment of Mata. Lukaku can't get a start but Shurlle gets his 1st at Old Trafford of all places. I don't think we will win any trophies this season and if we do it will only happen because he plays the players that us(know nothing) fans knows should be playing, in which case I won't then give Jose credit for doing what he should have been. I'm just frustrated and disappointed because I expected better, especially the way things ended at Real but he hasn't changed at all.

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Look, the only thing I wasn't too pleased with is he played without Lukaku and Ramires-Lampard in midfield. Lukaku is still very young so perhaps he wasn't ready for this game, the manager would know better than us.
We still took a point, so I'm fairly happy and I'm not going to moan. I'm sure we'll be fine this season

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26 Aug 2013 22:31:23
I think we should have the 3 amigos aka mazacar today.
kdb and schurrle did a decent job but lacked lil bit of big match experience
I still do not understand why lampard played full 90 mins when I thought he won't even start
And how can one bench a striker who scored a hattrick in 45 mins against utd with a quite an ordinary midfield support
I even do not understand the reason behind benching our best player for the past two years that too against title rivals.

seriously. it was a weird team selection
I believe mikel mata and lukaku should have started for lampard kdb and schurrle

Maybe I'm wrong but this is what I felt after watching today's match.

And regards to ed002, welcome back.

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26 Aug 2013 21:58:04
Decent defensive display tonite, we would have lost that last season back four superb.

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We won that game last season did we not? {Ed018's Note - yes, Mata scored}

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Same thing said about our 1st 2 wins "last season we would have lost that". How about the fact that we have a much deeper and better squad and we should gets these 3 points. Imagine how much better our defense could have been without Lamps trying to play dm. What if we started one of our strikers with epl experience who have played at old Trafford before? TSO my ass. {Ed018's Note - and how you g is this team. This isn't a bad result. Relax a bit}

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Ok Ed018, i've always respected your opinion so I'm just going to patient over these next few weeks and see what happens and I won't post after matches until that time. I have to be honest though that I have the same feeling inside as I did when RDM was given the job.

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26 Aug 2013 21:56:59
So no mata again. I can see a swap deal for Rooney on the cards. I think Rooney is the missing link for us.

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I disagree from the games this season I can see mata is the missing link and lukaku.

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26 Aug 2013 21:04:04
Strange initial line up. Surely needed a more experienced number 9 from start. Need to bring one on soon, probably Lukaku. We also do still lack commanding DM eg De Rossi. Hazard not having one of his best, and our passing must surely improve. Let's hope to sneak something here, please

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To be fair to Hazard, most of the time he receives the ball he gets double or triple teamed immediately so his impact is going to go down.
I think with Lukaku and Ramires-Mikel in midfield from the start we could have gotten a win actually. We just lacked a focal point in attack.
Van Persie also lucky to get away with that elbow on KDB

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VBS we didn't need di rossi, just someone decent in the position like a Essien or Van Ginkel. As far as our passing, we have the best in the Epl on our bench. And Jackson, haven't you noticed that since about the middle of last season every team we've played puts 2 to 3 players around Hazard all the time. Where is the tactical brilliance to get him free, especially if you're going to take other feared players who would share the attention off the pitch.

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OK Bluelab, you may be right, but think VanG has a way to go, understandably, before he can be that hard interceptor yet skillful passer (long when necessary) who gets positioning right 95% of time (De R, Alonso in pomp) Claude M etc. And didn't see Essien pre-season games -- but do his knees and all round fitness look ok? Take point about EH: perhaps has to come from deeper more often and/or one of other amigos to play closer to him on attack/breaks. But what do I know, others almost certainly more!

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I'd try Hazard in central attacking midfield personally. Way more passing lanes for him if they try to double up. But I agree Jose has to find a way to get him constantly involved

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26 Aug 2013 20:50:59
Need to look at Lukaku on for Schurrle and Van Ginkle on for Lampard. This game is here for the taking.

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26 Aug 2013 18:56:15
Great to have you back Ed002 is the interest in Eto'o real Ed? Will we be signing him if we fail to get Rooney? Thanks! {Ed002's Note - See earlier answers.}

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26 Aug 2013 19:10:33
Not a good sign that juan has missed out considering we are playing without a out in out striker ed what ls your take in the mata situation {Ed018's Note - I don't know, I find it a bit strange but I'm not the manager.}

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It's a mighty strange line up and not what I expected from Jose. Looks set up for the counter attack but I could be wrong.

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26 Aug 2013 18:59:09
Different experience with this website all together. Registration and Ed002 have made this worth visiting.

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Alot of us have wanted it for so long now, couldn't have come soon enough.
Hopefully stops all the trolling and disgusting posting. {Ed018's Note - lets hope}

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Much easier to block the tools I'm guessing? Seems to have worked on the other pages with registration so can only be a good thing.

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26 Aug 2013 18:38:44
Welcome back ed002. We missed you here!

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26 Aug 2013 17:11:42
Welcome back Ed02 hope you well, do you see torres leaving this window, many thanks {Ed002's Note - There is a possibility that he will but it has to be a slim chance now.}

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26 Aug 2013 17:03:14
I think we will end up with Martinez, just can't see united selling Rooney to us. Still only a week to go and arsenal and united have still to spend on big signings. Man city will need another centre half and spurs will no doubt spend again. What a week ahead.

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Can anyone actually tell me some things about Martinez? I've never seen him play. Is he as good as his stats would suggest?

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26 Aug 2013 16:35:18
Hi ed2, welcome back. Probably way of the mark with this but do you think with the potential addition of Willian do you think mata could be used in a deal to sign Rooney? I appreciate that Willian could play as a striker but from what I've seen he's very much like hazard, and likes to roam. Who would you think we could get that will lead the line as both nando and ba just haven't cut it. {Ed002's Note - Moses is the player that has been freed up by the arrival of Willian. There has been no enquiry for Mata from Manchester United. Ba should be leaving in the next week.}

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26 Aug 2013 17:50:15
Thank God Ba will leave and probably Moses and Mikels too!

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26 Aug 2013 16:33:18
Ed, would Moses be allowed out on loan under any circumstances?
BenSearle149 {Ed002's Note - Sure.}

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26 Aug 2013 16:21:37
Ed002 welcome back HOME we've really missed your input.

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Here here :)

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26 Aug 2013 15:54:45
What do you guys reckon for tonight then? My guess is 2-1 Chelsea and lukaku MUST start! I just have a feeling rvp will find the net as always. Can't wait, come one Chelsea!

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If Lukaku starts and we play Van Ginkle in the pivot with Hazard, Mata and Oscar I think we can win 3 - 1.

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26 Aug 2013 15:47:15
This site is one of the best and my favourite for good Chelsea rumours. I find the EDs very good. I've been a visitor for the past 2years, I just decided to register. Thanks all who makes this site a great one. {Ed018's Note - thanks for registering}

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26 Aug 2013 14:34:31
Great to see u back ed002! Very missed on this page, but thanks to ed018 for the last couple of months :D

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26 Aug 2013 13:46:32
I'm glad you're back Ed002 :-) {Ed018's Note - lets make sure we keep him around now.}

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Ed018, we thank u as well for the time u have spent with us. Since Ed002 is back are u going to leave? {Ed002's Note - Ed018 won't be leaving. I am hoping he will be looking after you later in the week when I am away.}

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I agree Ed018, let's stop the abuse.

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26 Aug 2013 13:06:36
First of all good luck tonight against the Mancs, can't see them coping with you lot in the middle of the park - hope Lukaku gets a chance. As a Liverpool supporter just wondering what you think of Moses - lots of rumours of him maybe coming our way on loan! I remember him as a player with lots of potential - obviously he has very little chance of getting any first team action with Chelsea so strong in the midfield but he will have a good chance of breaking into our team and with some regular playing time could come very good. Thoughts.

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He is what I'd very much call a premier league player, and not because he plays in the pl, he may have some pace and a bit of trickery, but essentially strong and an eye for goal. He's a good player and plays his part for Chelsea, but he could be better, and maybe it's just me, but kind of suits the Liverpool kind of player if you know what I mean. Not an insult, he would just suit your style of play. So ye he's good, but can be a tad greedy on the ball sometimes is, but what attacking midfielder isn't nowadays? And his cross isn't always the greatest, but if he did move on, I could see him come back to haunt us.

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I think he will turn out to be an exceptional player and was hoping we would keep him. Would turn out to be a fantastic signing for Liverpool.

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You scousers will have done good business getting Sturridge and Moses off us that's for sure, Moses is good but he doesn't suit the flick and trick intricate passing style of mata Oscar and hazard, he had a decent pre season but doesn't suit Chelsea. I wish him all the best wherever he goes he scored some important goals for us.

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26 Aug 2013 12:11:06
Just a feeling Rooney will end up at arsenal.

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Worst feeling ever mate . for no reason Rooney might go to Arsenal.

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26 Aug 2013 12:00:04
Glad u're back Ed002. U do a good 'job'.

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26 Aug 2013 09:18:02
What do you think the best starting lineup today would be? I think we need strong midfield today and a beast upfront.
Cech
Ivanovic Terry Cahill Cole
Essien Ramires
KDB Mata Hazard
Lukaku

Do you agree or would you change anything?

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I like the idea of Essien and Ramires in the middle but I think Lampard will start with Ramires for the 'big' games. Expect to see Ramires playing a more 'disciplined' role if that is the case.
I would also prefer to see Oscar instead of Mata, as he and KDB have contributed well over the past few games and deserve to start. Mata would make sense but it is hard to tell if he will be picked with all the rumours around at the moment.
Lukaku is a definite for me too, deserves a start!

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26 Aug 2013 11:54:32
I think Jose might even go with a 433.

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Good lineup, Although I reckon we'll see lamps in there somewhere. I'd start Oscar instead with a mind to bring on KDB later

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I have had my fingers crossed all week wanting Lukaku to start this game.

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26 Aug 2013 08:16:17
All signed up now.
Lets try and sort out this page again. I've been here in various forms of posting and reading for 3 years and we suffer so much without Ed002 or any Ed's guidance. Reading some of the so called chelsea fan posts from recently shows why registering is so important. It'll stop trolling quite a bit and clean up the page.
COYB!

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25 Aug 2013 23:14:23
Eds, once registration for the site becomes compulsory will Ed02 consider coming back to our page? Presumably those persons who hurl abuse will be less likely to do so given there inherent cowardice, once their actions can be tracked back to them? (citing person poster referring to Eto'o below) {Ed002's Note - Yes but obviously there are those looking to wreck it for everyone. If it starts again, I will be gone.}

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I hope everything turns out well because the information that the Eds pass on to us is priceless. I see them as godly figures feeding us with their knowledge voluntarily, which should be praised by EVERYONE on this site. Chelsea will always have a place in my heart and to receive quality information from the Eds has had me hooked from the first day I read from here. I really want you guys to enjoy your time here and not get abused for doing nothing wrong and simply sharing information as well as your own opinions. Some people don't realise what they have until it is gone.

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26 Aug 2013 00:02:04
Forgotten my jm10 password so I'm now fl8

Anyway would just like to say that the people who last year said ' we need more depth ' are most likely to be the same people complaining this year about willian and how we have too many attacking mids.

IMO it will be a solid signing just need a st and maybe a young cb!

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Yes, as some have posted (and am repeating partly to test my registration!), we need strong squad with cover for every position -- and 5 or 6 players who can play fast, neat and incisive football behind striker (or in front if striker is Torres?!) can mean that with substitutions we should be able to keep kind of intensity of first half v Hull. Am assuming we don't commit madness and loan/sell/swap Mata -- hope it's just the journos who support other teams winding things up.

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I agree that we need more squad depth and that Willian would be a great addition and I've said so in posts, however there were other targets I'd prefer (who we were reportedly interested in) such as Isco and Bernard, and they are a similar fee but a better option in my opinion.

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We will have exactly the same number of attacking midfielders once Moses leaves (although the Man U fans are convinced it's Mata leaving for them)

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But with all respect to Moses, Willian is a technically better player and offers that final product which Moses often doesn't offer.

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