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21 Aug 2020 19:27:46
Ben Chilwell transfer is almost done for a fee between 45-50m.

This will be fantastic and one I am completely behind. The reported fee of true is just brilliant work!

1.) 21 Aug 2020 19:47:56
Brilliant if we get him for 45-50M.
It seem that it will go as far as 65M with bonuses. Would be fine if we get the league title.

2.) 21 Aug 2020 19:57:47
Think that means the Emerson to Inter deal is done as well if we can sell him permanently for about 20m I’d be over the moon 👍🏻.

3.) 21 Aug 2020 20:08:33
I don't mind the bonuses, if it gets to that point it means he's played well for us and we've won some trophies.

4.) 21 Aug 2020 20:18:57
Chilwell and Havertz almost done!

Excellent times ahead.

5.) 21 Aug 2020 23:10:50
Potentially the best transfer we've ever had? Providing we can sign a CB.

6.) 22 Aug 2020 00:50:23
Very good deal at that price.

{Ed0666's Note - you are joking right? You really think it’s good value? I’d love to sell anything to you obinna...which reminds me I have a 1983 Yellow Datsun Sunny with no engine, loads of rust, not sure if the brakes work and definitely won’t start and I’ll sell it to you for 30 million british pounds.

7.) 22 Aug 2020 08:07:05
At least we're not tapping every possible transfer target Ed0666 via our manager's mobile phone.

8.) 22 Aug 2020 08:42:39
I wouldn’t call it good value but it’s definitely the market rate ie Wan B to UTD or Kyle Walker to City and a huge climb down from a ‘world record fee’ they have asked for.

9.) 22 Aug 2020 09:40:19
Brilliant value for money IMO.

10.) 22 Aug 2020 11:08:23
50 million over a duration of 7 years is less than 8 million a season+ wages. How's that not a good deal if he can stay in the team?

11.) 22 Aug 2020 11:11:02
Hahahaha, it could have been worse considering how much good English players cost.

12.) 22 Aug 2020 14:05:02
Time will tell. Chillwell Vs. Datsun.

Yes, it is a "good" deal in that we didn't spend 80 million quid. But looks like we are paying a lot of cash for an unproven player. tbh I am not that excited about this deal.

13.) 22 Aug 2020 11:25:01
Ed, you really shouldn't concern yourself too much with money.

{Ed0666's Note - you’re right especially when it’s not my own...but I’m not sure how chilwell is great value at 40-50 million? Is he four times better than Tsimikas?

14.) 22 Aug 2020 16:04:49
Well, we know some money gets chucked on top for home grown - granted not that much. We also know Leicester would have wanted a lot more for him, and after they stung United for Harry Maguire last summer this doesn't look too bad.

15.) 22 Aug 2020 16:59:28
Standard got it right.

The price over 5 years plus becomes a good one.

I don't think you can compare him with an 'import' like Tsimikas.

16.) 22 Aug 2020 17:08:22
We can’t afford a Datsun so we can carry on using our hand me down pensioners pass. Also Chilwell is a ridiculous amount of money when we could buy 5x players from the Lithuanian league for the same money!

Also, how lucky are we that the KH deal has fallen through. We were £10m away from the asking price but we decided it was better to buy a Rice pudding instead.

That’s the end end of our buying in this window. We wanted some bloke called Henderson but he has just been banged up on a Greek island and we can’t afford the bail money!

Just in case, I have the usual people thinking I’m being serious, I’m not.

I’m also very, very happy with Chilwell and KH. I would also like a CH and Keeper as well.

17.) 22 Aug 2020 21:50:01
Good one Tom B thanks for providing some humour!

18.) 22 Aug 2020 22:16:04
It was tough supporting Jorginho and Kepa through the season. That was true humour!

19.) 23 Aug 2020 01:13:54
I guess Chelsea would have to get Emerson out first before wrapping up a deal for Chilwell.

20.) 24 Aug 2020 14:46:01
I hears that Inter are sacking Conte and therefore the Emerson deal could be off.

Chilwell has an injury and is still injured. Seems a little silly to spend 50 million quid on an injured player.



20 Aug 2020 11:23:19
Looks like we've held further productive talks with Bayer Leverkusen over a fee for Kai Havertz. It is understood negotiations between the two clubs are moving at an encouraging pace.

It would appear to be more of a case of 'when rather than 'if.

1.) 20 Aug 2020 13:00:18
Ed002 stated the same last week! But hope we wound this up soon and move onto other business with league starting in 3 weeks from now.

We have to complete a lot of deals by that time. Ideally don't prefer movement post the start.



28 Jul 2020 09:55:41
Ed2 info on the below

Nicolas Tagliafico (LWB) the agreement is he will be made available this summer - first choice for Barcelona but money may be an issue - and priorities are an issue for Inter who have preferred options - far from first choice for Chelsea but on a lengthy list of LBs but the club has considered - although interestingly Ajax will be taking a LB from Chelsea this summer. Atletico Madrid has also taken a look at him but would need cash from sales to make any move - and they will prioritise others. PSG has an interest if they cannot get the player they want as part of a complex transaction where they would buy and then sell on a player. The issue with PSG is they have Bernat and too a youngster, Mitchel Bakker, from Ajax last year and he will step up. So PSG is unlikely.

1.) 28 Jul 2020 11:23:46
It's a shame Ed won't discuss defenders with us as if Tagliafico is far from our first choice, I'd love to know who's higher on the list.

I'm not great at finding posts on this site so can only assume Chilwell is higher up, but who else is a mystery to me!

2.) 28 Jul 2020 11:47:17
Telles has been mentioned. Since Ed’s post, Ajax have seemingly decided against picking up their purchase option on Castillo not that it would matter that much.

3.) 28 Jul 2020 12:24:42
Telles was on the list a while ago quite rightly in my opinion.

4.) 28 Jul 2020 14:22:06
Some LB options other than Tagliafico:
* Ben Chilwell
* Theo Hernandez
* Alex Telles
* Grimaldo
* M. Cucurella
* Robin Gosens
* Alaba etc.
Who would you like from the above list (Tagliafico included) if you were given the choice to pick one?

5.) 28 Jul 2020 11:50:31
Yeh it makes sense as to why chelsea haven't completed the signing given that he is far from first choice.

I wonder who Ajax will be taking this summer?

6.) 28 Jul 2020 20:01:32
Alaba would be my first choice followed by Hernandez and Grimaldo 3rd.

7.) 28 Jul 2020 21:00:23
Hernandez looks fantastic from what I’ve seen. Has everything to become one of the best. Not available according to ed002 though.

8.) 28 Jul 2020 21:20:29
Theo Hernandez is actually my first pick.

9.) 28 Jul 2020 21:28:38
I would rather pay ~50m+ for Theo Hernandez than pay same amount for Ben Chilwell.

10.) 29 Jul 2020 03:39:23
I think it depends on what system Frank wants to utilize in relation to his fullbacks. If he wants wingbacks in style that continually overlap their winger like City uses or more of a traditional fullback. Of that group I like Hernandez’s combination of size, athleticism, and youth the most.

11.) 29 Jul 2020 09:41:28
Just saw that Ed002 stated that Gosens was “way down the list for Chelsea” on the European page for what it’s worth.



24 Jul 2020 00:14:33
Read something saying West Ham would want 80m for the sale of Declan Rice and that they are not interested in any exchange of players. I cannot confirm whether this is true or not. However, the fact that they are safe from relegation would suggest that they will be after big money regardless.

If the rumours are anywhere near being true then I'm sure Chelsea are sensible enough to walk away. Just like the club are not willing to entertain Chilwell who is overpriced, im sure the same philosophy will apply for Rice. English players are overpriced, buying from a premier league club is blatant robbery these days.

IMO 50m is the ceiling for Rice or Chilwell for me. My ceiling may be too high in any event because you will find better players in Europe for that fee.

Ampadu has had a wasted year but he would be ready to compete as a CB and provide cover as a DM. There's not much to be ready about to compete with our CB's on all honesty. I'm not saying his the answer but I'm sure the club have a reasonable strategy in place in terms of options.

1.) 24 Jul 2020 08:31:41
I would love us to sign Rice and Pope next to get some height in our defence, which Ampadu doesn't offer. Agree with you about him offering cover for DM, but would like to see him get a loan in the EPL to get some experience.

It is the same as Gilmor, he also needs time as a regular starter before he is ready IMO, not just the odd game. What would interesting to see is Callaghar integrated into our midfield. He has had a full season starting every week and has impressed and developed physically. Should now be looking to step up.

As much as I wanted to be proved wrong, I don't think RLC is going to make it, too many injuries and overtaken by Mount. I think we could potentially offload both him and Barkley to another EPL side (Havertz dependant) . Jorginho won't go, to expensive in the current window and still offers us something.

To have the options at CM of Kante, Kovacic, Mount, Jorginho, Callaghar and Havertz would be better than most. And back to the original point of Rice, he would sure up our defence and be able to rotate with what is on paper a very strong midfield.

2.) 24 Jul 2020 07:51:27
If Declan Rice shows any encouragement to Chelsea and let’s the West Ham board know that he wants to leave, then it would be in the best interests of everyone to let a deal take place. If he handed in a TR (which I very much doubt he will) . The price would come down.

I think it’s a long shot, but would love him to arrive in the summer.

Ed002 is there really no chance we could get any sort of update on the defence situation please?


{Ed002's Note - None.}

3.) 24 Jul 2020 09:26:56
I like Rice but I can't see anything materialise unless West Ham be reasonable which I highly doubt. Ampadu is actually 6ft which isn't bad at all.

4.) 24 Jul 2020 09:37:42
It would appear to be a long shot Adam. I really can't see West Ham play ball given that they are safe from relegation now. I doubt Rice would go down the route of transfer request either. Let's hope we can sort something out because Rice has developed into a great young player who has the potential to improve a lot more.

5.) 24 Jul 2020 10:58:49
Where would you play Rice? CB or in midfield? Bare in mind we have Kante who will play every game when fit.

6.) 24 Jul 2020 11:44:44
CB - mold him into new JT. Could boss that defence for years.

7.) 24 Jul 2020 11:49:58
And I ask, do you think we would be looking for Declan Rice if he weren't English? I refuse to join the English hype and continue to over pay for some average players even when there are better value for money out there.
I'm not against buying English players but it has to be worth it and in most cases, we pay premium for them and end up looking for the real gems that we ought to have bought in the first place.
We're talking of a cb who can upgrade us and some you see that in Rice? Jack of two positions but master of none. We can get better value somewhere else with less amount than will be enough for Declan Rice. Quality wins you matches not nationality.

8.) 24 Jul 2020 12:54:25
Ilo I like your post mate. Spot on.



20 Jul 2020 13:48:29
I'm hearing Michy Batshuayi and Ross Barkley could be used in a swap deal for Declan Rice. Let's see if anything comes from it.

It could be a win win situation for both sides involved.

Havertz transfer is progressing very well, bid went in last week.

1.) 20 Jul 2020 14:00:03
Dont know who that is Shak mate, are they reliable?!

2.) 20 Jul 2020 14:00:58
Forgot to specify meant the carefree youth you mentioned on an earlier post. Cheers.

3.) 20 Jul 2020 14:37:24
Yeh Carefree is very reliable generally. Has direct links to many of the players at the club, especially the academy players. He seems to know a lot of inside stuff coming out from the club.

David Ornstein has pretty much validated and said that salary talks between Chelsea and Havertz already settled so on player front it’s only final details (clauses etc) that would need sorting. Now clubs need to find agreement. #CFC won’t go to level #B04 initially wanted but it’s looking positive which is what Carefree said "Things have been progressing well. Won’t say it’s done but it’s looking positive from what I’ve been told and has for some time 💙👊🏼"




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21 Sep 2020 15:52:47
This isn't a criticism or anything. I merely just want to know from fellow posters. Ed1 get involved?

What does Mount bring to the 1st 11 when he plays in a key attacking role other then his off the ball workrate which is good. I'm talking about key passes, take-ons, crosses, assists and goals?

{Ed001's Note - he is more of a link man, he links up the play well. He creates spaces for others to use and he does score goals.}

1.) 21 Sep 2020 16:18:08
I agree with ed he brings energy and drive and is not short of quality either.

2.) 21 Sep 2020 16:29:11
Fair enough. I suppose I'm waiting for key passes, dribbles, assists etc. I don't think his all that creative or inventive. You reckon he will be good enough to be in the Chelsea Side (best 11) when all the players are fit?

{Ed001's Note - he is going to struggle to get into the best 11, but that is because you will buy top class players to fill the team.}

3.) 21 Sep 2020 17:19:51
Fair enough Ed.

For the good of the team and for the good of Mount himself, Lampard needs to stop forcing him into the team. I respect Mount is always wiling to work 110% in games but he just isn't a winger.

Much rather Lampard plays Giroud or Tammy upfront and Werner out wide. or he plays CHO on the wings.

Out curiosity what's the situ with CHO mate?

{Ed001's Note - he just needs to get his feet back on the ground a bit.}

4.) 21 Sep 2020 23:01:21
I’m 100% certain that Mount is more suited to a box to box role comparable to that of Kovacic. His mobility, ability to carry the ball forward, and defensive work rate would be a big plus in midfield. Meanwhile his lack of end product wouldn’t be as detrimental.

5.) 22 Sep 2020 06:44:26
I think Chelsea will be playing a lot games this season and Kai won’t always start, perhaps we will see Mason Mount play in his favourite position (no 10) where he can make those passes, get some dribbles and assists.
Tk; Mason Mount’s lack of end product will get better, he’s still a kid as long as he’s a hard worker (which he clearly is) .
Hi CFCShak; i feel Hudson Odoi is getting what he deserves, he has to put in the work to be a better player. Sarri’s analysis of Hudson Odoi was very spot on.

6.) 22 Sep 2020 07:01:02
On Hudson Odoi situation: there’s an adage we use in Igbo- Nigeria, it says, ‘calling a puppy a big name could sometimes lead to the puppy’s demise’. It means don’t ‘OVER’ praise a child, otherwise you run the risk of making the child think that success is a destination (when in the actual sense success is a continual journey) . Hudson Odoi shouldn’t think that he has arrived, he’s got free his mind, be humble and work.



20 Sep 2020 19:10:42
Before we see anymore silly reactionary posts, let me remind everyone of this;

We need time and be patient.


James Silva Zouma Chilwell

Kante Kovacic


Ziyech Werner Pulisic.

{Ed0666's Note - that’s a good looking team let me give you another one
Allison, Fab, Virgil, Trent, Robbo, Thiago, Gini, Keita, Mane, Salah, Firmino,

1.) 20 Sep 2020 19:19:16
I’m not they impressed with the Scousers and over the season I think they will fall well short.

I certainly think we will finish above them come the end of the season.

2.) 20 Sep 2020 19:17:12
How much money was spent on that Liverpool line up? Thought Klopp only used academy players?

{Ed0666's Note - you wanna talk about money spent on players? You had the most expensive player in the premiership on the pitch today. The most expensive keeper in world football to date in goal. I used the word keeper in the most ironic sense of course. Just anticipate the fact you’re team will start to hopefully click in a few weeks when your New signings bed in until,then try and use some humility in defeat.

3.) 20 Sep 2020 19:20:21
Until there fit can we stop playing a midfield 3 of zero creativity. Mount wide, havertz wide or as striker, we all saw how good / important giroud was end of season, get Cho and and werner off him, havertz where he can get on the ball. Yes we need pulisic ziyech chillwell mendy silva but until then play these players in best positions and in kepas case not on the pitch at all,

4.) 20 Sep 2020 19:23:26
Ed666 no doubt Liverpool have a good team hence why you are the champions. I'm just reminding some of our fanbase to be patient because I think they have forgotten the team. We have got going forward.

{Ed0666's Note - sadly mate time is always of the essence when you spend 200 million plus. When you get all you’re players fit and firing on all cylinders you’ll be a different animal. Rome wasn’t built in a day and all that. You’re still playing catch up from you’re transfer ban which messed you up.

5.) 20 Sep 2020 19:27:57
Humility in defeat should be the same as humility in victory.

6.) 20 Sep 2020 19:29:11
666 you sound like a united fan.

{Ed0666's Note - how so my good man?

7.) 20 Sep 2020 19:35:12
Yes your right time is of the essence and thankfully the players should be back for our next league game. So losing today isn't so bad in the grand scheme of things.

8.) 20 Sep 2020 19:37:49
We where beat by the better team. No sense in denying it. I'd feel worse it if was against Burnley or Leeds etc. Easy to be negative but in reality where in a great position. We have recruited brilliantly and have the majority of our signings to come in. Not to mention the little American bloke who isn't half bad either. These things take time, we have a lot to look forward to.

9.) 20 Sep 2020 19:32:43
You could try using some of that humility after your win, against a ten man Chelsea team, that had one pre season game, 10 players in quarantine and most of their best/ new players out injured?

Like you said, hopefully we'll click and see you at Anfield.

FYI - it's your not you're.

{Ed0666's Note - is that the same humility Lampard executed towards Klopp last season at Anfield, when Klopp merely asked Lampard to calm down and lampard gave Klopp a tirade of abusive expletives?

You were down to 10 men because you’re center back rugby tackled Mane don’t use that as an excuse. You lost because you’re manager is tactically inept and not due to a lack of personnel in watching Tiger King in quarantine.

Thankyou for correcting my spelling I appreciate it.

10.) 20 Sep 2020 20:11:15
I respect the success the Scousers have had over the last couple of seasons but I just can’t bate to listen to Mr Klopp.

He didn’t pull up trees when he first came to this green and pleasant land. I just thought it would take time for him to get his team playing.

In the same way I think it’s reasonable to expect Lamps to be given time before taking strong views on his tactical ability.

I have questioned his decisions and last season defensive organisation but I’m already seeing significant improvement.



16 Sep 2020 11:53:54
David_Ornstein: Some at the club aren't convinced that Rice has necessarily addressed the technical deficiencies that resulted in him being released by CFC when he was 14. Currently Rice to Chelsea is "improbable".

I've always been against this move 👍.

1.) 16 Sep 2020 14:01:14
I am strongly in support of Chelsea signing another CDM but my preference has always been Denis Zakaria or Sandro Tonali; but since Sandro Tonali has joined AC Milan, I would say Denis Zakaria or Boubacary Soumare.

2.) 16 Sep 2020 14:26:18
It's what we've been saying all along. He has the potential to be a world class CB but currently he's just a good DM. Everything he does well is based on the fact he's a natural CB, everything he can't do is because he isn't a natural DM.

Its a move we make next year when Kante is a year older, depending on the success of Rice's and our seasons.

If we're desperate for a DM we should look to someone more established in the position, Partey from Madrid or Zakaria would be my choice. If we want experience then someone like Delaney from Dortmund would be a good alternative.

3.) 16 Sep 2020 14:29:17
I was quite impressed with James when he took that position briefly against Brighton.

As I said in a previous post, it seemed to free up Kante.

4.) 16 Sep 2020 14:45:08
I would have to agree with you Obinna. 👍.

5.) 16 Sep 2020 22:31:38
I have said all along build the team around Kante. Jorginho is a class act as well. so is Kovacic, so is young Billy. We don't need or want a West Ham Donkey.

6.) 17 Sep 2020 11:07:27
@G8: Rice is our own product, he was at the academy until 14. Can't understand why you call him donkey. Just seems to be pure hate on him, which is a shame really.

7.) 17 Sep 2020 11:52:53
My guess is he was let go from our club for a reason but IMO he is a good player who may play better in a better team.

I’m not sure how anyone can judge him as a CH and I’m sure the club, if we sign him at some stage, will be signing him as a DM.

The price doesn’t bother me but I’m not 100% convinced we need him. As I’ve said Ampadu, although now on loan could well end up being a better player and I thought Jame s did well when asked to slot into that position against Brighton.

My guess is we have not made contact with the happy hammers and I’m not sure we will this season. I think it’s all media rubbish.

If he does join, he will immediately become the best DM in the Premiership IMO.



14 Sep 2020 22:52:18
Interesting hearing that Pulisic felt a bit of discomfort and will be monitored over the next couple of days.

I'm hoping Pulisic isn't a player that spends most his time in the treatment room than the pitch. His 21 but is missing a lot of football due to injuries. I'm hoping its minor.



14 Sep 2020 18:35:20
My predictiom for tonight:

Pulisic Werner Mount

Jorginho Kante

Alonso Rudiger Zouma Azpi.

1.) 14 Sep 2020 18:59:20
Agree mate, although I'm unsure if Pulisic might start from the bench so wouldn't be shocked to see Tammy or Oli with Werner off the left.

2.) 14 Sep 2020 19:09:02
I think my prediction is wrong lol. Hearing J5 may be captain so that means no Azpi.

3.) 14 Sep 2020 19:44:25
Mine too, RLC instead of Pulisic. Havertz off the right is clever, he did that at times for Bayer and its hard to pick him up.




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21 Sep 2020 11:34:51
I think there is a massive over reaction to the loss vs Liverpool where we played with 10 men.

If we buy a DM then that was the plan prior to Liverpool. 100% fact that yday's game had no bearings.

We held our own until the sending off. It changed everything.



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15 Sep 2020 21:23:38
CHO has to stay. There are no ifs or buts with this one. This man is hungry and he will get a lot of game time .



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15 Sep 2020 14:09:05
I can see Lamptey move to a top 6 side if he continues like this tbh. But I agree Tom, I'd prefer James. But who knows how high the ceiling is for both players.



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15 Sep 2020 08:48:12
Lamptey was absolutely immense. His speed and dribbling quality is really good.



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14 Sep 2020 18:35:06
He does look good. His bagged 4 goals in no time. maybe this is too easy for him.




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25 Sep 2020 22:46:20
Soumare is head and shoulders ahead of Rice imo and is probably more gettable.



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25 Sep 2020 22:43:47
I can't see Kepa go on loan personally.



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24 Sep 2020 09:04:05
If Lampard seen that squad he would be angry. Wheres Mount? Lol.



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21 Sep 2020 17:46:32
I think the majority of rival fanbase would love nothing better than to see Kai Havertz fail given that he comes with very high expectations given the class of the player. I mean I've heard fans of other clubs say his the biggest flop in terms of transfers im the league. I mean 2 games We all know that's not true and that is jealousy and envy talking. real footballing people who talk sense, i. e. ed1 will say how good KH is.

Of course there will be some Chelsea fans who will love to jump on the bandwagon too.



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21 Sep 2020 17:19:51
Fair enough Ed.

For the good of the team and for the good of Mount himself, Lampard needs to stop forcing him into the team. I respect Mount is always wiling to work 110% in games but he just isn't a winger.

Much rather Lampard plays Giroud or Tammy upfront and Werner out wide. or he plays CHO on the wings.

Out curiosity what's the situ with CHO mate?

{Ed001's Note - he just needs to get his feet back on the ground a bit.}