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02 Jul 2020 09:59:40
Watford an absolute must win if we want still to hope for top 4. Find myself thinking about the frailties of our defense as many of us did earlier in the season. New LB and 'leader' CM wanted for sure on last night's showing. We need play with passion and compete for every ball from kickoff this Saturday.

Would pick Mount for energy he brings in this respect, along with Kante and Kovacic in midfield. Willian Giroud and Pulisic up front. Back 4 a depressing topic, with lack of quality at disposal we seem to need back 5 to be more secure!, but think Dave and Christensen have to be two of them, and expect Toni R will still be other CH with orders to redeem himself.

LB a tough choice. If James had shown some form might have had him on the right and Dave as LB. Otherwise might start with Emerson this time as Alonso looked knackered last night and having played v Leicester.


1.) 03 Jul 2020 06:59:18
I think loftus cheek needs to play. I swear he’s the only one who actually moves into space.



17 Jun 2020 16:31:03
Just seen that a couple of UK newspapers saying that 'reports from Germany' are that Real Madrid have come in for Kai Havertz and that RM are his dream club. Am desperately hoping this is just paper talk but not sure what the Eds have heard or made of this if anything?


{Ed002's Note - As I have previously explained, Real Madrid have other priorities and have signed an alternative already - it is unlikely their funds will stretch to KH this summer so they propose a deal like Nobby Keita where the transfer is agreed for next summer at a fixed fee with a deposit paid now and the player staying another year in Germany - but the deposit might well be in the form of a player or two and that may not satisfy Bayer Leverkusen.}

1.) 17 Jun 2020 20:22:04
Let's hope it doesn't satisfy them Ed.

Chelsea needs to be his new home.

2.) 17 Jun 2020 21:12:32
Many thanks indeed Ed for explaining situation again for me, much appreciated and obviously agree with CFCShak.



17 Jun 2020 16:45:24
Just posted on wrong page - Banter rather than this one - that I hoped that a couple of UK paper reports in the last couple of hours that Real Madrid had come in for Havertz were not true and hoped that an Ed might be able to comment, Was desperately hoping we'd get Havertz. so hope this is just a paper talk rumour nothing more.




19 Aug 2018 12:00:04
What do people think about what seemed to almost a free role allowed to Kante in the first half that saw him popping up in the box on the end of long passes or almost scoring with a header but not doing as much of his usual work in breaking up play / winning the ball back?

I was worried that this was exposing the defence in the first half, less so when Kovacic came on for Barkley in the second. Don't get me wrong, I also thought Barkley had a good game but was thinking that Kante would have snuffed out some of those Arsenal chances if playing more of his usual break-up attack game. so more often a bit deeper and not leaving Jorginho/ defense too exposed. when Arsenal got the ball.


1.) 19 Aug 2018 12:32:49
It was a little strange, we got caught out by the same Arsenal cut back from either flanks 4 times in the first half.

I wouldn't say it's Kante's job to stop 4 of these cut backs, it's more than that. Both Alonso and Azpi got beat too easy for the cut back opportunity to even arise.

Maybe Kante in his usual position stops them but he cannot play the regista role unfortunately. I think Kovacic will be an asset here as he can tackle and has knack for crunching tackles and tracking back and more so than Barkley and RLC. I like the depth of our squad now, hopefully the more we play the better we get.

2.) 19 Aug 2018 12:34:56
I thought the same, Kante's new role as it appears is leaving holes in our break up play which he is a master at and with Kovacic a likely starter from now we cannot rely on Jorghino as that is not his game. Barkley looked better but he does not rack back and is still fading too quickly. It was clear from Sarri's comments that he expects a lot of tracking back when required which 'one or two' do not like doing. Luiz looks lost and it cannot be going unnoticed by Sarri and in his preseason Ampadu looked very good, I am not convinced that Sarri is taken by Christensen. Anyone else worried by Willian and this constant slowing play and then disappearing.?

3.) 19 Aug 2018 13:15:45
We are all happy with the seasons start.

The dream of winning the Premiership is all but over for Arsenal, not that was ever a realistic dream but such is the nature of a football supporter, the start of season allows us all to dream!

I’m not going to get carried away with early season results and I’m not going to praise OR be critical of individual performances.

We play Newcastle next week who are a bang average team until they play us and then they turn into an image of Brazil.

I think we will have much better idea of how the season will pan out after the upcoming international break. The signs so far are encouraging.

4.) 19 Aug 2018 17:09:01
I thought Sarri plays zonal defence. Problem is we kept being wide open to the cut back. Bu
T this happened in other games pre season.
I have concerns about luis in defence. Just not sure he can be relied upon. Problem is if we are that open at the back against city or Liverpool we will lose. We look good going forward but we need to be able to defend leads.
I agree thought Barkley had a good game.

5.) 19 Aug 2018 20:43:50
I would like to know what you guys and the Eds think of RLC not really getting chance sofar. If this goes on then we are sure to lose him aswell. Im not complaining about Kovacic loan deal at all. I tjonk it was brilliany. Just concerned that if things don't work out for us to buy him come season end and RLC want to go. We wod be loosing a really good prospect. Maybe we can use him more in the Carabao cup and even Europa. who knows.

6.) 19 Aug 2018 22:22:47
I think Chelsea fans are struggling to evaluate RLC .

When I’ve seen him playing live for Chelsea at the Bridge I can’t say I’ve been overly impressed. I’m also not sure how he fits into this Sarri shape.

He has always struck me as a genuine number ten but from what I’ve seen his work rate is not marvellous.

Tammy, I just haven’t seen enough of him to make a judgment or balanced comment.

Hudson Odoi looked very good in pre-season but I’m not sure he play many Premiership games.

Youngsters need to be given a chance to prove themselves but the manager has a job and that is to win matches.

In my opinion it will always be a problem at a club like Chelsea to blood youngsters. They will have to be exceptional or maybe lucky to find the playing time required to prove their talents.

It’s a tough gig!

7.) 20 Aug 2018 17:15:15
Its known that the owner likes high scoring games. he would rather win 8-7 than 1 nil. This style and manager is ideal. And i love 433. couldn't bear contes 3511.

8.) 20 Aug 2018 21:10:08
Regarding the last comment on conte, I think his 3511 was more suited to a high pressing game than the current 433 we now have. If you look back at the run of games we had under conte were we won like 13 in a row, we pressed really high and looked a good team but as soon as we allow teams to play then we became vulnerable.
I’m a fan of sarri Napoli team and I am confident he can get Chelsea playing some really good football as we have already seen in stages, my only worry is we look very out of shape defensively and teams are a lot more difficult than in serie A. regarding Kante I’m impressed with his energy and willingness to break forward but his real quality lies in breaking up attacks which is more what we need to allow Jorginho to be more free. I think a slight switch to 4231 would give us the freedom attacking as well as having Kante hold that midfield.

9.) 21 Aug 2018 10:44:03
A) 🔺 (Midfield shape A)
B) 🔻 (Midfield shape B)
C) flat midfield shape
Initially, i thought midfield shape A would serve us better than B esp in big games because of Kante's ball winning/ defensive midfield qualities (complementing Jorginho infront of the defense) but obviously Sarri goes with shape A which is more attacking. From what I can gather from Sarri's interviews, he wants to press more and wants the players (esp midfielders) to close up spaces that appear infront and defenders- behind. I could be wrong but I fell it's a system that will be very efficient with constant running and pressing for 90mins (when players get up to speed) .

10.) 22 Aug 2018 09:15:55
Imagine if we had an aguero or a kane. Someone who can bang in 2 or 3 hatricks a season. I don't see morata being that guy. I think bats could have been. Also pedro is getting on. But yeah we look better than last season.

11.) 22 Aug 2018 10:50:37
I believe that Morata can become that player.



04 Jan 2018 12:19:39
Looking at the betting odds on January window, seems that Ross Barkley most likely ie odds on in betting signing. Not quite a De Bruyne then - oh that we still had him! RB a gamble? Still early days, and bookies offer perhaps some faint hope for us getting Vidal or Sandro. or Mahrez and, even more remotely but for me most excitingly, Aubemayang (who of these would you most want? ) .

But despite all the paper rumours, perhaps not much will happen. Anybody got any news?
Happy New Year to all, and especially to the Eds including that long term favourite of mine and many others so sadly plagued by fake CFC fans on this site the legendary Ed002. But input of all Eds (including Eds 1 and 18) hugely appreciated.


1.) 04 Jan 2018 13:57:45
Happy new year to you mate. Not necessarily transfer news but apparently Courtois said he is close to sign a new deal at the club! . Also stated he encourages Hazard to sign as well and expects him to. Personally that beats any transfer we could make this window if it happens. I said a while ago Courtois is more replaceable than Hazard but there is no doubt he is world class, the performamce last night was one of his best in a Chelsea shirt. It's obvious to see the areas we need to improve in. I'd expect a new striker and a midfielder like Barkley. A lot of people have underrated Barkley, I'm pretty sure he's created the most chances in Europe for players under 22 which is very impressive. Dream window for me would be Sandro, Auba, Vidal and maybe Mahrez. Realistically Mahrez, Barkley and any decent striker to play with Morata or just to help add some goals from the bench would be great. But this is January and we know how hard it can be to get quality players without paying ridiculous sums so we'll have to wait and see.

2.) 04 Jan 2018 15:29:03
Thanks LondonBlues90. Good news if TC signing and encouraging EH to as well. Both absolutely key players, near impossible to replace and keeping them essential for CFC going forward. EH has been sparkling of late, TC some fantastic saves esp. in some big games. So yes, not just a matter of who we bring in but who we can hang on to, though a dream window would be welcome! If Barkley could rediscover early, slightly like AFC's Wilshire, form he might indeed be the bustling, strong and creative mf additionthat (with Vidal too?! ) would strengthen us where we need it, but also help grow our home grown/ English component in squad.

3.) 05 Jan 2018 23:04:19
i think that it is for midfield players for this window guys. (maybe even for 2 windows)




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18 Oct 2020 18:28:52
Wow what a comeback by happy hammers against the spuds who were 3-0 up. can only imagine the postings if this had happened to us! It has been a very strange season of unpredictable results and large numbers of goals scored and conceded.


1.) 18 Oct 2020 23:57:01
Very strange JBS.

I had City to win the League with us finishing 2nd, Liverpool 3rd and the original Scousers 4th but I now think Villa will finish 3rd.

2.) 19 Oct 2020 07:01:01
Before anyone says anything the above post was meant as a not very good joke.

3.) 19 Oct 2020 09:47:10
It worked brilliantly tom.

4.) 19 Oct 2020 11:07:17
Enjoyable post as usual Tom!



03 Oct 2020 22:40:38
Was trying to end ptevious lengthy post by saying thought that Werner's movements off the ball in packed conditions improving towards the end as the attack beginning to gel better in second half.


1.) 03 Oct 2020 23:41:38
Werner is definitely better as as a striker and I'm sure he will occupy that position as soon as Pulisic and Ziyech are fully fit which should be for the next match.

Thiago Silva looks so assured and our defence looked so good, best in the Lampard era.

{Ed018's Note - I agree. I’ve got to imagine that will be the front 3 the majority of the time when everyone is fit}

2.) 04 Oct 2020 09:20:32
It definitely has to be the front 3 going forward for majority of the games.

I wonder how Tammy takes being on the bench? I felt sorry for him yesterday because you can tell his desperate to score via nay means so he can put his name in the hat i. e. penalty incident. He just needs to take his chances when he plays. His in a similar situation to what Batshuayi and Giroud were in last year. Giroud took his chance well. but it took an underperforming Tammy to allow that to happen.

3.) 04 Oct 2020 15:04:04
To all guys who use to rubbish over Lukaku's first touch. Compared to Werner Lukaku is a master of the first touch. Werner absolutely overated.

4.) 05 Oct 2020 08:21:56
Antibot, you go support Inter then, I'd have Timo over Lukaku any day of the week. Lukaku's touch has improved, but it's still rubbish, he's in Italy not England, much more time there.
He had his chance here at Chelsea, then at ManU. There's a reason he's in Italy, he isn't good enough in England!



03 Oct 2020 22:34:11
Wonderful to get a 4-0 win with all players having good moments. CHO really came to purposeful life in the second half and began to try things, take opponents on and was involved in build ups to two first goals. Began to look as though he was enjoying himself. Think and hope he will be staying.

Thought Chilwell and Zouma were outstanding and was impressed by Tammys work rate and some sublime movement and passing (with feet and headers) by Havertz.

The fact that Palace spent so. much of the game camped in own half and defending deep did not play to what is Werner huge asset namely coubtersttacking into space at speed whether as CF or playing as he did mostly at Leipzig to the left of a more central striker. He looked better as many have said in first two games but imho not so much because he was paying as a CF but because Brighton were at home and playing much attacking football and LFC deploying their usual high pressing game so he got much more space to run into. In the more opponents 'parking the bus' in their half type games - and there will be quite a few at Stamford Bridge every sesson - he can't so easily use his speed to such great effect and a more classic number nine who is good in the air as crosses have to be swung into packed areas effective. So I think there may be games like tofays one when best that Werner not sole striker others when it may be. Either way our attack and team in general still need time to gel as seemed obvious in first half. I thought Werners movement off the ball.




28 Sep 2020 12:40:13
Much hoping as we all are that 6'5" Mendy is the solution to our recent goalkeeping woes. Big Pete obviously thinks he will be which is obviously a v good sign. We will soon see. Mendy is clearly a bigger physical presence than Kepa and able to command his box for corners and crosses. He also apparently has a good record as a shot stopper too. What some have said to be his (relative) weaknesses -- but I've not watched enough of Mendy to know if this is unfair so would be great to have comments from others here - are his footwork in terms of distribution and when playing as the modern kind of sweeper/ keeper. Also that he has/ had a tendency of pushing balls away into still dangerous areas. Presumably, if any truth in this, these are things that can and will be worked on in training and possible to correct. Hope he will prove to be as great a signing as Big Pete himself!


1.) 28 Sep 2020 13:47:29
I’ve also never seen him play but I’ve tried watching his highlights and videos of mistakes that he makes and from what I’ve watched it seems you’re pretty bang on. Big physical presence that comes to collect balls and often catches but I did notice that a lot of the saves he makes the ball does go back into dangerous areas. Hopefully the defence can step up and mop up any loose balls and if so it shouldn’t be such a problem. I for one am looking forward to seeing him in goal and hope that any early mistakes he makes won’t get crucified.

2.) 28 Sep 2020 16:13:00
Interesting Sam, thanks for the feedback good to have. Quite agree that hope he won't get crucified if some early mistakes. No new player should be judged too quickly.

3.) 28 Sep 2020 19:30:45
Watching the clips of Mendy is frightening. I hope they are not accurate.

I’m sure big Pete wouldn’t have endorsed him if he was rubbish.

4.) 28 Sep 2020 23:44:07
I agree Tom looks a bit erm erratic.



26 Sep 2020 20:51:33
Personally I thought we would struggle for a month or so into this strange season given number of new players to bed in and late end for us to last season with Pulisic injured as well as Ziyech. Fans must be patient but Frank will have though to decide on our best 11 and formation soon. Letting Wilian go to AFC a mistake as have said before as we needed more continuity in terms of excellent experience. But we will improve a great deal in next month or so and though we may not win anything this season we must see this one as moulding a team that can in the third season of Frank's tenure.


1.) 26 Sep 2020 21:36:20
Agree with a lot of that but letting Willian go wasn’t a mistake. Massively overrated by a lot of fans here and I thought his attitude was appalling.

2.) 26 Sep 2020 21:59:26
Californiablue do you mean Williams attitude in leaving unless gettingv3 yr contract? Look i hope youvate right and anyway he has left. Ziyech not fit so Frank has to make the best of all of this and that probably has to mean trusting CHO with more starts. We do have a lot of youngsters and that is likely to. mean no instant success cos will need more game time to grow and gel together. But the talent is there.

3.) 26 Sep 2020 22:35:51
His attitude regardless JBS I always thought he thought he was better than everyone else. He wasn’t good enough he had the odd worldie but that’s not good enough for a top club. He sulked a lot also.

4.) 26 Sep 2020 23:35:44
Eillian was a great professional for us and never let us diwn.

5.) 27 Sep 2020 07:56:37
I think Willian overall was an excellent pro and seldom sulked or complained. Could have scoted nore goals perhaps but had great work rate not least in tracking back and very good in transitional play in counter attacks. There was a period after his mother died when he was well below best but surely understandable. He was our best player by far in Mourinho last season.




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06 Oct 2020 11:54:53
Also agree that Tom is a highly respected poster on here. And with Obinna's comment that we should respect each other in the sense of being able to disagree with each others views - sometimes passionately/ almost heatedly - while not being personal and attacking a fellow poster's character. We shouldn't be, as the saying goes, 'playing the man not the ball'. On the field there are yellow and red cards if players do!




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05 Oct 2020 13:46:21
Well odds are shortening on him moving to Arsenal, now 4-1 on favourites to sign him, so you may have to find a nice edible one RJ28P! We are enormous outsiders. Though of course who knows what can happen before 11 pm.




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29 Sep 2020 10:43:41
Rudiger has been v good on occasion - eg v Man City after restart, and under Sarri - and something of a fans' hero for a while. Point is of course that our defensive issues cannot easily be put down to any one player but how the defense (and team in general defensively) is organised as a unit. This has been a major weakness as well know over last season and beginning of this one, as it was for Klopp in first season or two at LFC. Zouma when brought back helped greatly with his aerial power and physical strength. Alonso, as some suggesting, has played well for us as a left wing back rather than LB in four at the back system.

Anyway am hopeful Frank and his team can sort the defense out soon, and in way and with a discipline in shape/ expectation that can allow for some necessary rotation. Might be that Kepa cannot be completely written off yet, though confidence must be rock bottom now. But problems certainly need to be fixed pronto!




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29 Sep 2020 08:14:57
Agree and had thought a loan the possible way forward after the Brighton game. We all know how good he was before that injurynone eve of UEFA cup final and would love to see him get back to best.




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29 Sep 2020 08:12:25
Well argued and would largely agree with you ilo.





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21 Oct 2020 15:18:25
Yes Tom I am also perplexed that some think that Frank can do in one EPL season and five games what Klopp took three seasons to get right in terms of a title challenge - with LFC shipping many goals at the back and having bad results to lowly teams (sound a bit familiar?! ) - and with no transfer bans etc.

I think it might be though because CFC has had so much success in recent times whereas LFC not much more than that Gerrard night in Istanbul (2007 was it? ) and were perhaps more inclined to be patient with a rebuilding process. LFC patience has obviously paid dividends!

As did United's patience with Ferguson whose United finished 11th, 2nd and 11 th in first three seasons and took six seasons to win the top league (ie either First Divn, or then EPL) . Can only say that I would like to see if Frank can build something similar, and we must give him time here to see if he can.

Question I suppose is how much time? 2 seasons? As many as Klopp or Fergie took? Fergie was of course almost sacked after 3! Frank's heart is clearly Blue through and through, and he did get us 4th place and an FA Cup final with v young and relatively inexperienced squad last season. He is trying to get us playing exciting but defensively more high risk soccer, and buys into the Klopp/ Guardiola philosophy in this respect. He had wins in EPL last season v Mourinho (2), Arteta, Guardiola and Ancelotti (though also away losses against last two) . I would hope that most proper fans would wish to stick with him through at least two summer transfer windows (ie into his 3rd season) rather than rushing back on the manager merry go round. Hope and think that Roman would share that view too, but who knows.




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21 Oct 2020 14:44:24
I think lack of height would be an issue Lrdit though we know Dave can perform well in a back 3 and would do his best if emergency required. Problem is that not much height through most of the outfield players and esp. if Werner playing and OG/ Tammy are not, so defending set pieces and controlling box (even if Mendy obviously has helped here already a great deal) already not a strong point could be made more difficult. WE need a combination of Zouma's physical height/ presence/ heading ability and Dave's greater ball skills!




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21 Oct 2020 13:03:54
Just quick response to Tom's question of how long the much referenced Mr Klopp has been at Liverpool. Answer: since October 2015, ie 5 years. It took him 3 seasons to get the club challenging for EPL and coming second but winning Champion's League. One more to win EPL.




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21 Oct 2020 08:50:17
Agreed both Havertz and Mount looked tired in second half and could have played a half each!




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21 Oct 2020 08:48:53
Some v good points Dantheblue had also though Werner faded second half as well as jorginho after ok start. Think Mount and Havertz also looked tired and might have played a half each.