Chelsea Banter Archive July 16 2013
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16 Jul 2013 21:30:22
"Mourinho explained to me that Essien and Lampard were ahead of me. He insisted that, after an injury, I had to play many games.
"He said it would be better for me to play for a team that can guarantee more minutes. "
He added: I'm very grateful to Mourinho for allowing to leave for Valencia - it was where I wanted to go.
"When the transfer was completed, I went to thank him, because other teams had offered Chelsea better terms, but he understood my position. "
so Mourinho said that Essien is ahead of him which probably means he's staying and he didn't mention mikel. not sure if that means anything but there it is.
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Gutted. Romeu should be playing now not the oldies. Problems with managers with favourite lap dogs. Rdm was the same issue.
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He's still only 20/21 - plenty of time. if he has a strong year he'll be back. he might be behind essien and lampard but ramires van ginkel oscar de bruyne luiz and mikel are ahead of them.
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Mikel? No way.
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Sell or loan?
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16 Jul 2013 20:40:10
Good luck to the team tomorrow, hope some of the youngsters get a run out.
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16 Jul 2013 19:31:38
I can imagine Man U saying we can have Rooney, but in return they want mata. Baz
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I can imagine Jose answering that. I don't think Moyes will like his colourful use of language. No chance in a deal like that plus Mata and Jose have both confirm they want to be here (or want the other to be here) next season. Rooney will hand in a transfer request again and force a deal through.
EH17
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Some people on their site have actually already suggested that. Whoever believes it would happen just has to be out of his mind
Jackson
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Lol, was the Torres nightmare not enough for you?
AJH
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16 Jul 2013 18:46:06
Looks like gala have for melo would that mean mikel would no longer be of interest?
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Melo has been on loan at gala last season anyway so nothing really changed
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His loan was ending however so did they see mikel as a back up option?
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16 Jul 2013 17:43:26
chelseafc 6 singha all stars 1 and watch out for shurrle lukaku and van ginkel and any updates on kondogbia and bruma
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16 Jul 2013 15:48:21
It's being reported that Strootman of PSV is on his way to Rome to tie up a deal to join Roma. Perhaps we will see some developments with De Rossi?
DP
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16 Jul 2013 12:55:24
Eds - Fabregas to Chelsea? Can you really see that happening? Didn't think there was much love lost between him and Mourinho
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I doubt he will leave Barcelona especially after Alcantara went to Bayern.
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Where would Fabregas fit in to the Chelsea team. We have an abundance of attacking/creative midfielders and 2 box to box players in van Ginkel and Ramires.
We need a DM - possibly de Rossi.
Very keen to see van Ginkel - I think he is a star in the making
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16 Jul 2013 11:18:32
Hi Everyone,
Quick summary.
From the GKs (Cech, Schwarzer, Blackman) to the youngsters (Josh, Chalobah, Kalas, Piazon), to the loan players (Marin and Romeu), I have counted 30 players in our first team squad. 2 already on loan so down to 28 realistically looking at the players we have. That’s a lot of players in a first team squad. Now who goes on loan, who gets sold and who gets signed to even us out at 25, which I’d say is more than enough to get through a season with…
P. S. I haven’t included Van Aanholt or Ake in the numbers.
We have 3 GKs – PeCe, MaSc, JaBl
We have 8 defenders – CeAz, BrIv, ToKa, JoTe, GaCa, DaLu, AsCo, RyBe
We have 7 CMs – FrLa, MiEs, Ra, JoObMi, JoMc, NaCh, MaVaGi
We have 7 CAM – EdHa, JuMa, Os, AnSc, KeDeBr, LuPi, ViMo,
We have 3 Strikers – FeTo, RoLu, DeBa
Realistically I’d say we’re looking at the following…
GKs – No Change
Defence – No change
CMs - Mikel leaving and Josh and Chalobah going out on loan. So that’s 4 left. Bring in De Rossi? That’s 5.
CAMs – Piazon on loan and Moses leaving? That’s 5 left. No other signings there?
Strikers – Ba leaving? Rooney signing? That’s 3 left.
So we would end up with 24…Sound about right?
Being realistic this is what we could go into the season with…I’d be happy with that.
Just my opinions of course on rumours I’ve read, and also tried to use a bit of common sense.
OsgoodIsKing
P. S. If I've forgotton anyone I apologise.
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I'd keep Moses. He could prove to be a valuable squad member as depth when our star attacking midfielders could use a breather
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Do chelsea fan really want rooney?
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Doesn't Loftus-Cheek and Ake need to be in this list as as a CM and Defender respectively?
COYB!
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I suppose you could add them to the list if you wanted, but I think Josh, Kalas and Chalobah are ahead of them, so didn’t see the need to include them.
Does anyone know where I can watch the game tomorrow? What time is it on in England and is it on Chelsea TV?
OsgoodIsKing {Ed018's Note - it's on Chelsea TV. And it's on Gol Network in the United States}
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16 Jul 2013 18:23:31
Cheers ed
OsgoodIsKing
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The squad list looks like a fantastic game of scrabble.
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16 Jul 2013 09:09:58
(banter Eds)
Not a Chelsea question; more general banter. Is Lionel Messi the greatest player to have ever graced football? If no who is and why? Will Messi ever be surpassed? Or can Messi become even better than he currently is?
(Still will never score against Chelsea though)
EH17
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I don't think messi would be as great if he didn't have xavi and iniesta to assist in his goals. At this time I think ronaldo is a better overall player (tall, fast, ball control, freekicks). Although messi may have better ball control, ronaldo is a more complete player. Best player in history is hard to say but I would choose from ronaldinho, pele or maradona
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Think it depends when you grew up watching the game. My dad (who knew a bit about football) always said Garincha, I grew up watching Cruyff and would say he was the best, for others it's Maradona so who knows. Definitely a generational thing.
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To be fair Iniesta and Xavi only got 11 assist between them to Messi.
COYB!
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Zidane would have to be up there messi is in one of the best teams ever, makes his job a lot easier. Ronaldo maradona Zidane platini and others all did fantastic things and changed games in ordinary teams, is why I put them above messi,
One other thing no one is allowed to tackle messi if you do it's a foul so how can you get the ball off of someone the ref protects
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Notice how little and strong he is? Well he was on growth hormones, which is an illegal steroid in football.
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Can't believe no one has said eusabio
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What about TORRES lol, he must be worth a fair packet.
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16 Jul 2013 02:27:39
Schurrle No14 -DeBruyne No15 - v. Ginkel No16 - Lukaku 18
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16 Jul 2013 01:40:23
Jovetic to Man city 30 Million euros, who next for cfc all the strikers are going, niw I had rather we stick with torres, lukaku. ba and schurle, mourinho can get the best out of them, beside we have the best midfeilders despite what we all think, one on one no club has what we got in oscar, hazard mata schurle, de bryne, van ginkel, piazon, ake and the old guards lamp, essien, mikel and moses, I bet all the top clubs will rush at the chance of swaping their midfeild with ours, besides we have the happy one as the twelve Man and the fans as the 13th man, fingers crossed I am alright with the squad.
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I don't think Ba will be staying. In my view he is not good enough at the top level
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Get rid of Ba and Torres. Bring in Ibra. We would have Ibra, Lukaku and Schurrle.
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I would say the same thing about Torres.
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16 Jul 2013 00:15:27
It seems one by one, the number of available world class strikers available is diminishing, lost out on falcao, cavani to PSG, lewandowski is adamant on bayern, it doesn't give us much choice left, other than perhaps yilmaz, who although I do rate as a player, don't see in a Chelsea shirt and hulk, who I wouldn't want in a Chelsea shirt seeing his play more recently. What options are there left for Chelsea other than sticking with who we have or moving for an average striker who we really don't need right now. Hopefully TSO ha something up his sleeve.
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Maybe instead of paying big money, we should go scout the next big south American star.
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Edin Dzeko will do it for us
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Yilmaz, Jackson Martinez or Ibrahimovic are all quality strikers still likely to move this summer.
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