Chelsea Banter Archive November 07 2012

07 Nov 2012 23:07:31
Did you see the Celtic v Barcelona result? Excuse the french but FOOK ME.

07 Nov 2012 23:04:29
Challenging for the Premier league,doing well in the C.L and current European champions and some of you still moan about your own players.Unbelievable Jeff....................... Lee.

People easily getting use to good things but forgetting to appreciate it. Human nature I guess.
DanCfan

Challenging in November means nothing, if we are to be challenging in April/May and winning then we need to tighten up at the back. We cant rely on scoring 2 or 3 goals every game in order to win.
Luiz is a liability with no discipline, when he go's awol everyone else has to fill the gaps and we loose our shape and structure while he jogs back. I know he is a character but we need a solid defence, something we dont have with him at the moment.

07 Nov 2012 22:31:10
I am getting so angry to see the pivot so lacy, not caring, cba to defend attitude etc, destroying alot of our games, we have lost alot of goals and some games cause of them.
And i am very suprised Ramires has gotten such a attitude and they should both change that asap.

Today against Shaktar at the 2nd goal against us both of them was standing a few meters away from William when he scored, they just stood and looked at him score while walking casualy towards the goal instead of going close to him and deny him the chance to get the ball.

Also they both fail horribly at getting the ball up to the attacking players i am gutted to see that especially Mikel unable to do it most of the time when either Luiz or Cahill do it further away. They cannot control the midfield at all and Ronaldinho bossed them around today. We often looked stuck at the link before the attacking midfielders, and either Oscar, Mata or both had to track back everytime to help the pivot out to pass the ball forward.

I really liked how Shaktar played and you could really see that they have played that way for a long time. Hopefully we play something like that in the near furture with the quick pass's and great understanding for eachother, problem is just the pivot the game ALWAYS slow down when we hit them with the ball and that is costing us goals.

And Luiz i really dont know what to say about him, if he keeps to continue like this i hope Matteo put him on the bench. It cannot be true at his level he still fu ck up the most simple things, and make standard situations dangerous for us and keeps going forward when it is not safe to do. It sometimes cost us goals when he do such things but he never really seem to understand his faults and fix them, and that really scares me.

I really hope Mikel and Ramires start to playing their best with a great attitude, cause at the moment it is probably our weakst link and that needs to be fixed or we wil concede many more goals and games.

Personally,i thought that was one of Mikels best games in a blue shirt. LEE.

Ronaldinho bossed them around? That's impressive.

IB.

07 Nov 2012 23:26:23
No matter what Mikel does, he doesn't just do enuf. I personally think Ramires was the weak point in midfield.

Well i dont say Mikel is bad. He is just not very good at playing this style, last year he worked perfectly in but we did not play this sort of style to win.

This style is kinda build on quick pass's and runs, and everyone know that Mikel is pretty poor at that.

LEE, well yeah he looks good cause mainly of Oscar he ALWAYS come down and help him out with the ball imagine if not? he would have 90% pass to defenders/Cech and look extremly bad, he just dosent fit this style of play.

07 Nov 2012 22:22:06
For one game I'd like David Luiz to play holding role along with ramire, not a dig at mikel or anything but he is no way a centre back

Cech
Azpilcueta. Ivanovic. Cahill. Cole
Luiz. Ramires
Mata. Oscar. Hazard
Torres

07 Nov 2012 21:59:56
Victor 'Drogba' Moses. Hmn!

07 Nov 2012 21:45:40
We have really got out of jail tonight. Shakter are a really good team. Absolutely delighted with the result however we have to have a balanced reflection on the team. Defensively we are all over the place and no matter what the fans think of Luiz as a character its about football and he is a shambles defensively. He moves out of position so often leaving a huge gap in the centre leaving us exposed and doesn't bust a gut getting back. The CB pairing. has to be Cahill and Ivanovic with Cesar at RB Some people will go on about Mikel but I thought he did ok. Bertrand also looked exposed and not ready yet, however he didn't get much help. Happy to be still in it with it in our own hands.

I cant understand how an ex pro footballer in RDM cant see how bad luiz is! he gonna cost us games! if he still gets in when terry is back then am gonna worry!

kevinCFC

Well Bertrand is never playing games as RB which i dont understand.
its stupid to keep playing Cole especially when he gets a little older, its also very dumb not to play bertrand a game now and then so Cole can relax and is fresh and ready to go in the big games. Also it gives Bertrand more experience and since Cole hasent signed a contract yet i dont get why Bertrand do not play more often

Have you ever had a day without worrying about everything kevin?

aL

I would hope Bertrand isn't playing games at RB since he is a LB.

07 Nov 2012 21:46:26
Far as I'm concerned, that goal and one against Juve for when we win there will pay off Moses price tag quite easily. He could be the steal-of-the-season, most impressive so far.
EH17

07 Nov 2012 21:44:16
Thank god for victor ' drogba ' Moses

07 Nov 2012 15:25:33
Fernandinho has expressed his desire for a January move to the Premier League, is that anything Chelsea would be interested in?
I'd see him as a very good replacement for Mikel if we cannot get Paolinho, problem is that he is 27 years old, but still a very good player that completly controlled Ramires and Mikel on the midfield against us.

Thanks in advance Ed. {Ed002's Note - Why would Chelsea be interested in replacing Mikel? Efforts are being made to secure a new long-term contract for him.}

I hope this is another witty reply by you ed002. I really don't know what the chelsea management see in him.

Ads {Ed002's Note - Whatever you want. I don't think you will find many posts of me putting players down.}

Mikel is being offered a 5 year contract.

Because the pivot is the teams weakst link and that needs to be fixed one way or another.

07 Nov 2012 21:35:43
Looking forward to everyone blaming Torres for tonight when David Luiz is as much of a defender as my left nut..!! How are we to win when we can't keep clean seers, fed up of everyone saying Torres this etc when it's our defence letting us down

Luiz was poor but so was torres. it is possible that two people have a bad game you know

Our worst player was Ramires yesterday followed by Bertrand. Not that im blaming them just Ramires has bad games and then games of genius and Bertrand hsas barely played at lb (Why Di Matteo keeps subbing hi, as a midfielder i'll never know). Luiz and Torres didnt cover themselves in glory but so what we won.

Torres had a decent game! In the first half he was a big threat and shot alot more than usual. He only looked bad in the second cos the we got outplayed and hardly had the ball. I was at the game and in one situation we kept it for over a minute and got nowhere, then Torres came deeper picked it up and ran at the defense winning a free kick just on the edge. He played well!

07 Nov 2012 21:04:40
How old is fernandinho??
he is playing GREAT IMO

OSCAR11 {Ed018's Note - 27}

Fernandinho and Ramires in defensive two positions would be pretty gd.

I'm only going on his performance tonight. Not seen him play any other time.

Ads

07 Nov 2012 20:53:15
someone seriously has to help bertand over on that left hand side getting destroyed over there! and about Mikel you know the same oul same oul moan moan moan ... not good enough ... blame the manage ...

07 Nov 2012 20:41:26
I blame RDM and Torres for us going in at half time in the lead.

07 Nov 2012 20:08:53
Why are they finding so much space infront our bak 4?!?
Jim132

Mikel

Exactly Mikel people who favour him don't understand his role.

No way. Its ramires. Mikel has been solid this half....oscar future champion of europe?
SG

Its not mikel's fault, we started the game giving them alot of space and pressurerizing, after we scored we started pressing

Actually I think people who 'favour' Mikel do understand his role.

Sorry, are you expecting him to stop every attack single handedly?

IB.

The thing is, with our front trio, often they all end up centrally, so when the opposition counter attack on the wings, Mikel and Ramires move out to support our full backs. Which leaves space in front of our back four. I feel that both goals though could have been avoided as neither Ramires or Mikel tracked their movement into the box.

07 Nov 2012 19:59:08
I hate it when tony gale is commentating on our matches. He does my head in.

Ads

07 Nov 2012 15:41:01
Sadly the game tonight isent shown in my country, do anyone know a good a website 3 stream?
A link would be very appreciated.

Duus

Front row sports I think

Stopstream.com

Thanks guys:)

Wizzywig is the best for football
bluekaz :)

07 Nov 2012 10:07:46
Chelsea vs Shaktar:

Cech

Ivanovic*Cahill*Terry*Bertrand

Ramires*Mikel

Hazard*Oscar*Mata

Moses

Bench:

-Turnbull
-Luiz
-Bertrand
-Romeu
-Lucas Piazon
-Sturridge
-Torres

07 Nov 2012 10:48:43
i like your thinking out the box but id rather moses go on the wing and hazard up front too be honest hes more clinical plus you dont need 2 strikers on the bench

curt

Torres will start. You also have Bertrand on the bench and in the starting 11. Marin and Azpilicueta will be on the bench.

Theres no need to put piazon on the bench because he is not ready. He still needs 2 - 3 seasons to start getting appearances for us in big games. He needs to work on bulking up and positioning.

Blue con

07 Nov 2012 05:42:15
This is just a wish but in a 3 or 4 years i would love our starting line up to support two centre fowards. I would like to see the pair of lukaku and feruz together, what a strike force that would be!
Jono

I do hope feruz fills his potential. I'd love to see him upront for us in a few years time.

Lukaku is average at best. 1st touch is bad.

He's 19. When drogba came to us his first touch wasn't brilliant but look how he turned out. I just wish some fans would give young players a chance and not expect them to be the perfect player as soon as they come in our side.

Ads

If you say lukaku is average, then why was he the belgium leagues top scorer at 16?

Peds

Got lucky maybe

Oh right...

Peds