Chelsea Banter Archive June 22 2012

22 Jun 2012 21:20:13
Hey Ed,
Sorry a bit confused but what positions do you think Chelsea need bring someone in? And who are the options?
Cheers {Ed018's Note - you must be confused because these are topics delt with here on a daily basis}

Right wing - most likely is hulk

right back - azil of marsielle or possibly piszcek

maybe a central midfielder

already brought in marin and hazard

curt

22 Jun 2012 21:12:15
When looking at our centre mids I honestly don't think we need another player. We have Ramires who performs the role of an engine that covers every blade of grass. Lampard is a good distributor from deep and has the ability to make well time runs forward. Mikel does a good job of sitting deep and breaking play up without getting in the way. Miereles is very similar to Lampard. Essien IF healthy is similar to rami. That being said you can't really count on him to make a contribution but he also has the potential to be a star. Romeu is a deep lying player that breaks up play and distributes the play well. McEachran is developing into a deep lying playmaker and will need time to develope. Ed has made mention that Miereles might be leaving and if so I don't believe that makes a gap that's needed to be filled. Its obvious that essien is a big injury risk. If he comes into camp in June and doesn't look that good I say we sell as he hasn't done much for ages and he's taking time from our youngsters and he's prolly on high wages. If both of those two leave we still have 5 midfielders for two spots. With that said I don't think that leaves much room for a new player.

Tk

Nicely said

Nicely said

22 Jun 2012 20:44:38
I've got a proposal that's pretty out of the norm but I want to hear what you guys have to think about it. I often see stuff about will x player be loaned but I have another thought. The first half of the year we have a ton of games. In addition to the premier league we have group stages for the champions league, the FIFA club world cup, the game against athletico Madrid, and finally the league cup. That's a lot of football. I think one thing that not a lot of people mentioned about avb is that he didn't really rotate the squad apart from league cup games. This lead to the first team getting run into the ground. I propose we keep a fair amount of players in to gain experience while recieving top of the line coaching. You cant tell me that McEachran would have got any less time playing for us than Swansea. You obviously can't predict how much time a player will get on loan but you can control it if they play with you. I know it's out of the norm but I wonder what you guys think.

Tk

Makes some sense mate

curt

So why do i have disagrees for agreeing with something that has only agrees on it

seriously grow up people

curt

I've said it a few times now but I would like to see Josh getting some game time with us again this year, I see no reason why he couldn't play in League/FA cup games and sub appearances in the EPL against 'lesser' opposition. We could be involved in 60-70 games this year so we will need a big squad and fringe players are going to have to step in to rest players or cover for injuries and suspensions. He is still very young though so he has plenty of time. In my opinion he could become the deep lying playmaker everyone wants to see us signing, and a quality one at that, given time.

PieZ

Maybe you should stop getting annoyed at getting them curt, that'll solve it

Im not getting annoyed :D

think its rather funny how immature they are really

curt

22 Jun 2012 20:34:49
Schurrle sure likes a shot.

Tk

Agreed, although with him constantly shooting it reminded me of sturridge!

Rich

22 Jun 2012 17:24:20
Do chelsea want marco verratti

22 Jun 2012 18:58:24
Gareth bale wants champions league football. And everyones aying we don't need him becuase we have to many players on the left....bale can play very well, if not better on the right midfield?

Cech
Walker/ivanovic cahil/luiz terry cole
ramires lampard
Bale/hulk mata hazard
torres

Sorted.

I'm not convinced he can play on the right and neither would you if you've seen him play. Hes incredibly one footed. I think it's fixable but certainly not a certainty.

Tk

Hulk and Robben are both more one footed yet both play on the right.

Ever heard or arjen robben? plus bale can pass!

Hulk and Robben are both more one footed yet both play on the right.

Ever heard or arjen robben? plus bale can pass!

I'm not sure if one footed was a good word. Sturridge also falls in line with your guys. What I will say is in watching tottenham decently often bale very rarely went over to the right and even more seldom ky made an impact. His game is built around being fast and good at getting around defenders then swinging in pretty crosses. That won't happen when on the right.

Tk

I've seen bale play alot on the right for wales, and he was pure class...

22 Jun 2012 18:24:35
As a Chelsea fan I don't like players that re greedy or full of themselves!! I see lukaku as a Torres back up not sturridge let him go...

100 percent agree

Lukaku will be drogba esce

curt

Lukaku is young and raw still, in my opinion he needs game time not sitting on the bench behind Torres, Sturridge(maybe) and the other striker we are said to be looking to bring in. Would prefer a loan to an EPL team.

PieZ

22 Jun 2012 17:36:30
If AVB took over Spurs, we should make a cheeky swap deal offer, Sturridge for Walker + 10m?
Scotty

Not a bad idea considering how much AVB loved Sturridge, but honestly I can't see it happening

I'd love walker but Im sure avb puts a lot of stock in good attacking full backs. Look how he kept playing bosingwa despite defensive frailties.

Tk

22 Jun 2012 16:18:21
I quite like the battersea stadium images but i would like the fans to be closer to the pitch.

Chackers97

Thats alryt because we lost out on it

curt

Some one else bought it bout 2-3 weeks ago,keep up!

Carefree

Whats the betting we get disagrees on those comments carefree

curt

Technically nobody has actually bought it yet. The Malaysians have been named as the preffered buyer and have untill july 5th to complete. The deal could still collapse and Chelsea can sneak in or the more likely scenario is the Malaysians complete the buyout of the site and will then negotiate with Chelsea about the stadium.

Yea it looks dead in the water but there's the old matter of due-diligence, and then maybe the new owners will talk to Chelsea about there plans. There is a slim chance things could change.. don't hold your breath though.
Marley

Nobody has actually bought it yet, they just chose a preferred bidder to have talks with, so stop with the bitter comments when you are intact yourselves wrong. It's a Malaysian consortium who are negotiating buying it. As you keep saying "keep up"

So its as good as sold then

we wont buy the site put it that way

curt

U were right curt even though it was on bbc news that a bid had been accepted by a middle east bidder we r wrong!

Carefree

U clearly don't understand due-diligence. Read up about it....
Marley

Tell you what marley when chelsea buy battersea then disagree with us until then pipe down

curt

Curt u need to read the whole story, not just headlines. And read my previous post and u will realise I was reasonable. Now u are getting upset because u think I disagree, I sed it looks dead in the water but until due-diligence etc is complete it's not completely over. I used to feel a little sorry for u with every1 disagreeing with u but u seem like u like an argument now, grow up mate...
Marley

I have to agree I'm afraid. All of Curt's comments seem to be of a negative nature or trying to deliberately wind people up. I mean someone who claims Walcott is better than Bale and who thinks Modric is worse than Meireles in the same day, are indeed going to get people questioning whether Curt even follows football.

MB

For the life of me ,cannot understand why everybody falls out with curt..[said with tounge in cheek].....

When did i ever say walcott was better than bale i said bale was a left footed walcott BIG DIFFERENCE

and i never said merieles was better than modric i said i would rather keep merieles instead of paying 30 mill for modric so pipe down MB

i have no negative posts alot of them are agreeing with people

so marley really what your saying there is chelsea arent getting battersea which was what me and carefree said all along and still got disagrees .......... my thoughts exactly

curt

Yea it looks like we aren't getting Battersea, but until some flats and a shopping mall are built anything could happen... I would be happier if the Bridge was expanded anyway. Home sweet home :)
Marley

22 Jun 2012 11:39:46
everyone seems to forget marko marin, 6 million for him, i would be happy for him, mata, hazard and torres as our front 4 with kakuta, debruyne as back up. we dont really need hulk or BALE!! just a young back up striker like jovetic who is versatile and can play behind the striker or either wing, plus ramires can play right wing as weve seen. i personally feel marin will be one of bargain of the seasons. BLUEBOY1

Don't get me wrong Marin is a good player but he was bought with the expectation that we wouldn't be playing champs league football the next season. We now need players that are capable of challenging man city for the title next season so I think our first XI needs to be bolstered. Marin will most certainly add to the squad though.

Marin if he plays anything close to what he was playing 12 months back we have made the steal of the season.I think he will be a huge success this season.He does have everything to succeed and the move will be good for him as Bremen were destroying him by playing him as a attacking midfielder.
roan

I understand what your saying but there all preferred left sided players

and hulk is a beast

i really dont want bale coming chelsea not that he will be anyway people assume he will because redknapps been sacked but that dont mean nothing

curt

I agree curt that we shouldn't even think about Bale,
But Hazard and Mata have both stated that they prefer playing the central role and quite frankly i don't want Mata on our wing, we need in the middle to pull the strings as proved last season when played in the central role, maybe that then will force Hazard to start the season on the left wing but expect a lot of positional rotation if we get Lou Ferrigno :)

Rich

I don't bale. Ex yids no thanks

Why does Curt get so many disagrees? He makes sense

I wouldnt know unamed to be fair i get disagrees even if im agreeing with everyone else i think they secretly know im talking sense alot of the time but hate to admit it

all i can think is some people are still upset that i said hazard was s**t against england when we played belgium

can you put a name next time please :D

curt

What did Hazard do wrong against England?

I didnt think he played as great as alot of people were making out so now people disagree with me constantly because it obviously completes there life by doing so

curt {Ed018's Note - Curt stop being so sensitive}

Im not being sensitive just think its pathetic how people disagree with me constantly for no reason they do it with carefree aswel

curt

I don't understand what he did wrong though? He didn't do anything exceptional but didn't do anything wrong. You can't expect him to wack them in for 20 yards + every match....? Id be much more understanding if u gave a reason.

I understand what your saying and i did say maybe i was too critical of him saying he was rubbish was critical i just think the last 15 minutes he showed what he could do but wasnt as good the rest of the game

i think thats why people were annoyed i was too critcal about it everyone has an average game to be honest

drogba had a few average seasons with us but i wouldnt say hes rubbish so yes maybe i was over critical

curt

Curt you need to stop worrying about what everyone else thinks about you/why they disagree. Some people get frustrated that you post of everything. Also the fact that somethings you post stuff that isn't 100% factual (battersea power station).

Carefree: You should know by now that BBC or any other media outlet is far from trustworthy. There is only one person you can trust for Chelsea information: Ed002.

Melbourne CFC

22 Jun 2012 09:05:15
No, no, no to Bale! He is the most over-rated player in the premiership! Still living off that game against Inter! Plus we are not interested in signing him!

No, no, no to Moutinho! He is a good player but if, for instance, Miereles leaves we should be promoting McEachran in the squad not signing a player who may push him further down for another year or two! To be fair if Miereles stays McEachran should be overtaking him in the pecking order anyway!

Surewould

Exactly, i want mceachran, piazon, kakuta, de bruyne, all to succeed, signing bale, modric or moutinho will only ruin it BLUEBOY1

Well put surewould

bale is a left footed walcott

and moutinho isnt as good as hes made out to be his passing and through balls are very loose

curt

Bale is miles....miles better than Walcott.There is simply no comparison.The difference is simple enough:
Walcott is equal to a rhinoceros,which is fast but blind.
Bale is a Cheetah very fast , deadly accurate and dangerous.
roan

Im a big fan of McEachran and hope he stays with the squad this season and gets some game time in League/FA cup games, and some sub appearances in EPL, maybe even CL against 'lesser' teams. He's still only 17 I think, maybe 18 now, In think he probably needs a couple more years to mature and bulk up physically before he would be considered for 1st XI, but great potential and hopefully a future chelsea great.

PieZ

There is simply no comparison between Bale and Walcott. if you think Walcott is on the same sort of level as Bale then you are simply not watching football properly. Also I think that Bale is slightly over rated, however Hulk is possibly the most over rated player in world football. When he was Bale's age he had just come to Portugal from the Chinese League! {Ed018's Note - Not sure if you can say Hulk is the most overrated player. He has scored alot of goals for Porto. His next step is a move to a top team in a top league. If he doesn't perform then, you then can judge his ability}

Let's be true to ourselves here, Hulk has a hugely inflated price tag for his ability plus what he has achieved in football. I think he is over rated by his club.

Bale is out of the question lets put some faith in marin, kakuta & de bruyne. same as people wanting modric or moutinho lets give young josh a chance. we need a right winger, iker munian is awesome. but if we want someone bigger and add a bit of power to our team its gotta be hulk. mata, marin, hazard, kakuta are all 5 ft 7ish, BLUEBOY1

22 Jun 2012 01:34:23
Ed, any interest in the Madrid left bk Contrao? He was awesome last night against the chechs. {Ed002's Note - No. He only moved there last year.}