Chelsea Banter Archive May 31 2012

31 May 2012 17:47:44
So Hazard is pretty much in the bag, Hulk apparentley 90% complete which is definitley a good sign. If these two go through whose next? I think we should go with someone like Javi Martinez, Fernandes. There has been some interest in Van der Wiel as well, although I don't see the point if he is going to be a Bosingwa type. I'm not sure if the Dembele and Ba interest will come to anything...? In short, its going to hot up in the coming week or so when the window officially opens.

Its gunha go mad after the euros, teams scrapping over players who play well

31 May 2012 12:24:05
Hazard-32m
Hulk-40m
Marin-8m

Still to come:

Fernando-15m
Ba/Dembele-7m/10m
VDW/Azpil-13m/15m

There really is no need for us in buying a RB I think we have got some of the best youth coming through that will provide cover for Ivanovic until Todd Kane eventually takes over.

i really see Chelsea as a dominant force in the coming years with good experience,youth,and potential 11 match winners on the field who's gnu compete with that?

My starting xi:

------------------Cech-------------------

Ivanovic-Cahill/Luiz-Terry-Cole

----------Ramires----Fernando/Lampard

Hulk------------Mata-----------Hazard

---------------"el Nino"----------------

Mate you do no hazard cost a heell of alot more than 32 mill price is guna hit 75 mill by the time deal is finally completed {Ed002's Note - I suspect he is just considering the transfer fee.}

Oooo ok fair enough i just heard it could hit 75 mill i obviously read it wrong u just meant transfer

Imagine how much lamps has cost us over 9 years

No CDM?

Why would lampard of cost us anything?

My CDM is Fernando playing next to Ramires who is my box to box player that will play in a little bit more advanced position because he has the gas and stamina to track back and join the attack consistently

Todd kane is usless the only youths i c coming true is lucas piazon nathaniel chabloh and jamal blackman

Someone mentioned how much hazard cost us with all his wages included so he said how much has lampard cost us

Ivanovic has stated he doesn't want to play at RB all the time but is happy to cover, with Bosingwa released and Ferreira past his sell by date we do need a RB, we have alot of exciting young prospects yes, but at the moment they are just prospects, they are still too young and inexperienced in my opinion.

PieZ

No i stated by the time we signed him it will cost us 75 million my god i wish people would read things properly lampard hasnt coz us anything over the years apart from wages but were not talking about wages

The 75 million includes wages.......and chelsea paid 11 million for frank back in 2001

And how much in wages has he had? so really its irelavant how much hazard gets, it lik sayin lamps 11m then 9 years wages of 6m ayear 65m, u dont go saying he cost us that do u?

WITHOUT wages hazards going to cost us 75 mill research it {Ed002's Note - I think you have misunderstood something.}

Well he did cost us that much? but club gets money back from the sale of shirts...etc {Ed002's Note - Clubs don't get money back from the sale of shirts.}

I thought they make money from them like a business would? i mean in the megastore of course {Ed002's Note - The money from shirt sales goes to the manufacturer, the distributor and the retailer, who can make extra adding numbers and names to the shirts. If the club are the retailer (club shop, club website etc.) then they get the retailers cut. The manufacturer (Adidas, Warrior, Nike etc.) pay the club an amount each year which allows them to manufacture and sell the shirts using the correct logos etc.. That is how they justify the money given to the club. So if you walk in to a high street store and buy a Liverpool or Arsenal shirt - nothing goes to the club. There are a few clubs that have negotiated different deals with manufacturers (Real Madrid with Adidas and Barcelona with Nike are the two obvious examples) based upon joint reselling ventures. So the income from shirts is fixed to the £xM or whatever Adidas, Nike etc. pay the club plus a small amount for reselling through the club retail outlets (shop, web).}

To the poster above who says 75mil doesnt include wages, heres the research i did : "No official fee announcement has been disclosed - and indeed neither Lille nor Chelsea have officially confirmed the deal - but it is thought to be just over £35 million. In addition to that the player has insisted on £100,000 a week after tax, which will cost Chelsea £9m a year, while Hazard's agent John Bico has apparently negotiated a £6m fee for himself for brokering the deal. The Daily Telegraph estimates that the grand total for all this will come to £78m"

31 May 2012 10:06:34
It's weird that everyone is leaving Marin out of their starting 11. He's a very skilful player who loves to run at people, if Hulk comes then he will probably be left out, but people should be reassured he's a very good player and Chelsea got a bargain at £6.5 mil.

Chelsea Nick

Hes not that good

Not that good lol he's two times the player of kalou or malouda

Nick I think u exaggerated with the "very good player" part. No doubt he would start games but I expect most of them to come in the F.A cup,carling cup,when we play lower league teams and if Mata ,Hazard or Hulk needs a rest or gets injured. I agree he was a bargain at that price he's only 23 and could still improve immensely. But no way he would be picked ahead of Hazard , Mata or Hulk .

ELI

I agree he is not as good as Mata Hazard and Hulk, but he is better than Malouda and Kalou and will, i am sure, make a very positive impact.

Marin is not going to start in front of either Mata, Hulk or Hazard but he can come in and play anywhere across an attacking midfield three as cover and is a bargin for the money we paid for him.

Surewould

Deffo not good enough to go infront of hazard mata and hulk i agree with ELI fa cup and carling cup player at most he will be lucky if hazard mata or hulk get injured

Hulk is massively overated i would pick marin ahead of him ny day

Thats because your an person no1 would pick marin over hulk plus you wont say that next season if he plays for us

Marin is a good player but not good enough to start ahead of Hazard, Hulk and Mata

31 May 2012 00:44:56
I've heard Bertrand might be playing at left-back for team hv at the Olympics. Great for the lad, hope he helps them to win a medal.

Devon.

Hv? I meant gb

Devon.

That will be a good expierence for him yer granted not all the best players will be there but still going to be professional matches good luck to him