10 Jan 2019 08:20:00
Great performance from city this morning. Watching them play is the level we need to get to. The pace at which they play and and the speed is great to watch.

I do hate to harp on about it but this’ll be the last post I make about it. Jorginho is not up to scratch. Myself, I’ve never seen the use of a player that can only pass sideways and backwards. He’s now completed over 1000 passes without a single assist. I know stats are misleading and that’s not his role but it shows how woeful his forward passes are. Every time I’ve seen him pass forward to a winger or striker he doesn’t weight it correctly or he messes it up.

I do understand he’s there to dictate tempo, but he doesn’t bring enough to the table for me. Like Eli said against teams that sit back and not of use. He can’t product a ball splitting defence and he’s slow when the opposition is countering.

I was thrilled when we signed him but I just haven’t rated his play at all. Maybe he will improve but for me we have better options.


1.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 09:04:26
Is that why pep wanted him at city? Not good enough my arse. Mate it’s his first season in a new country, league, new language etc. Don’t think he’s doing too badly to be honest. Look at Peps first season at City, we won’t see the real “Sarri chelsea” until next season, when he’s a full
Pre season with the players and with the players he wants. Think we all forget this sometimes. We can not compare Sarri’s first to contes neither, as we had no Europe and a lot more time together between matches.

As long as we get top 4 I’ll be happy this season.


2.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 10:41:07
Excellent reply Adam.


3.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 10:51:01
Pep also wanted Fred, is he any good? We’ve been through this Adam. If you think he’s a good player good for you I’m just stating that I and many others don’t think he is good enough.


4.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 11:04:00
I haven’t seen enough of Fred to judge him. If players are played in the right positions then watch them fly. Pogba’s Performances have improved dramatically since Jose left, he’s been given more free role and now united are reaping the rewards, same with Rashford, now scoring goals because being played in the correct position.

But I’m guessing Jorginho was good enough at the start of the season? When he was supplying pass after pass? So what’s changed, nothing in my eyes. The lack of a striker and forward thinking midfielders is our problem. Barkley and Kovacic haven’t impressed in my view. Barkley started season well but has tailed off. Kovacic puts a shift in but no killer edge. Kante is kante.


5.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 11:44:41
i think the criticism of jorginho is a joke. its shows how silly some fans are. yer moaning he can't split a defence with a 40 ydard ball like fabregas could? no he can't that's not why he's in the team. he's in the team to get the ball moving faster than ex players like matic did. is he doing that yes he is. if he passes the ball sideways so what what's his job get the play moving yes? he does exactly that its up to barkley or kovacic pedro willian an hazard to be the key to creativity not jorginho? kantes new role is more or less box to box run around make a presence of urself. steal the ball when u can and get in the box when we have the ball. he does exactly that. swap him with jorginho and your moving our tempo man into midfield were he won't offer us anything going forward at least kante has the legs to get up an down i think both kante an jorginho have been exellent this year but they can both improve still a bit. its barkley kovacic that's letting them down. both players are offering nothing . how many assists/ goals have they both? and nobody is giving out about them?


6.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 12:58:08
It appears a few people have a severe case of 'Kings new clothes ' regarding Jorghino .
He is a massive luxury unless the other two midfield are very creative and score goals as is the situation at Citeh.
It was a real shame Pep didn't sign him as it would have weakened them defensively. He wouldn't have replaced Fernandinho for sometime who is an excellent player.
Its perfectly obvious he is incapable of producing defence splitting passes and indeed contributing anything when teams park the bus .
He is poor defensively, lacks pace and physicality and contributes nothing creatively and forget goals.
Infact he is stealing a living passing the ball 15yds sideways and back.
Mikel who was a whipping boy at Chelsea was a much more effective player and has the medals to prove it.


7.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 13:26:09
Magic your reply is spot on mate.

I would like to add that Jorginho is playing the 'Regista' role this season and is the launchpad and base of the attacks. Jorginho is an excellent player with the ball and he made more than enough penetrative passes, through balls, accurate lofted passes, one-touch passes, passes onto tight lanes etc. He tries to control and dictate the tempo of play with the other midfielders and wingers trying to overload flanks. He is positionally astute and has an excellent vision with an accurate understanding of where his teammates are positioned. He makes threatening passes to the advanced playmakers who are well placed to set up and score goals. He is doing all of the above and his job very well in my opinion. He is not Fabregas of previous years because he does not play advanced CM and hebdoes not have Kante or Matic behind him.

Barkley/ Kovacic should be doing more from advanced CM positions. Once the ball has been distributed to them they should be more forward thinking, however the ball is always back to Jorginho.


8.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 13:45:28
It's a joke, I don't think many people know the role Jorginho is supposed to play at Chelsea which is beyond ludicrous. Yes his not a world beater yet but he is playing very well and has improved defensively too. It's his first season too.

His keeping the tempo at a high pace, his making more than enough threatening passes as well as side to side passes andn1 touch passes to get the ball moving quick. He isn't the man that is designed to break down a bus with a delightful pass or a Fabregas style assist. Healso isn't the man that is supposed to bail us out of games by bursting forward from midfield and scoring. Isn't that the role of the other two CM's along with the attackers. Of course RLC would have suited heavily but he needs to get well first.

Barkley and Kovacic should be breaking down the bus alongside the wingers and our striker. However, you will note that barring Hazard the rest are all misfiring at the moment. Is that Jorhinho's fault? Bsrkely, Kovacic, Kante, Hazard, Willian, Pedro, Morata are all there to break down a bus. not Jorginho.


9.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 13:50:45
My bad, seems like we have more Jorginho fans than not I was wrong.

Adam, no, I didn’t rate him at the start of the season either. He’s not a scapegoat I just don’t rate him as a great player. He’s the exact same as mikel, who was a whipping boy as Turvey said.

I understand the role of a regista however registas need to be capable of forward passes. From what I’ve seen, Jorginho isn’t. Maybe he will improve as I said, but for now he doesn’t have the ability and I didn’t see much of him at Napoli.

Magic, are you saying a player like Kante can’t ‘get the ball moving’ as quick as Jorginho? It’s hardly a big skill and every football player should be capable of kicking a ball.

Shak, he really hasn’t made that many good passes as you have said in my opinion. Countless times this season he’s failed to spot the run of a player or misplaced it.

People really do think your hating on this page for simply not rating a player. It’s unbelievable.


10.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 13:51:46
Player profile on Jorginho ed? Would be magnificent.


11.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 14:49:55
Jorghino a launch pad. since when have rockets gone sideways and backwards!
As for being a Regista few are capable of fullfilling what Pirlo did and steal a living by comparison.


12.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 15:29:52
i would say standard he is 100 percent better on the ball and a better passer than kante but obviously ders not even an argument kante is the better player.


13.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 15:31:16
obviously he's not in pirlos league either he was the king at dictating games with his passing.


14.) 10 Jan 2019
10 Jan 2019 20:43:09
Is it Jorginho or is it the players around him not playing the way Saari wants?