Chelsea Rumours Archive July 04 2012

04 Jul 2012 23:09:35
Chelsea to announce the signing of hulk within the next 24 hours as chelsea have agreed to buy the extra 10% of hulks contract
Samir

Dude. Give it a rest!

Blue25

Samir fella im reserving my thoughts on your info instead of just insulting you if your correct thanks for the heads up.


BlueBen

I guess the next 24hours shows how reliable you are Mr Samir, kinda put all your validity into one basket with this Hulk to Chelsea transfer inside knowledge.

PB

Extremely rash and presumptuous there Samir, I hope you're right though! You'll look like the biggest nob if this ain't true. But whete are you getting this information from?

I'm not saying Samir is wrong but there is so many people that write rubbish on this site but Samir has obviously done research before saying this I hope he is right but I will not be believing anything untill Chelsea or Porto announce that the deal has been complete.

Blue con

Samir boy if ur wrong in the next 24 hours you cant put no more transfer information on here lool

Here Samir give it a rest man and stop looking for attention !

I half wonder if the ed's put this up and Samir is actually one of them ;)

I did not write this!! Its not true!!

Samir

04 Jul 2012 21:22:33
I think we need to buy Jovetic

Lukaku and Torres and Sturridge is not good enough to challenge for the league imo. If Torres got injured we would be in trouble. Jovetic or Cavani. Jovetic seems more likely, cant say ive seen him play though.

Jm10

Trust me Jovetic for �25 mil would be one of the worst deals in football.

You want to get Jovetic but you've never seen him play?

How do you know he's better than Lukaku or Sturridge then?

Rich

Im hoping for Cavani Jovetic Hulk Ceaser and either Modric or Ganso not asking much i no.

has long has the RB and RW situation is resolved anything really is a bonus for us.

we can but dream a decade ago we would of struggled to sighn any major names now look at us. makes ya proud to be a true blue.

BlueBen.

Thats why i say think....reports have been good

Jm10

Jovetic is worth 25m hulk is not worth 30, jovetic is magic at only 22, is carrol is 35 and henderson 20 hes worth it

Jovetic scored about ten goals from open play last season. Whereas Sturridge had already scored that many halfway through the season. Worth �25 mil..... I think not.

A decade ago we were signing players like Zola, Lampard, Jimmy Flloyd Haselbank, Robbie de Matteo the list goes on so to be fair we have been able to sign big players for quite a bit longer than a decade.

Remember if we sign Hulk, then we have a extra striker as he can play through the middle. I know it's not his first choice position but, I still think regardless of this we will have to sign another striker, considering that Lukaku may be going on
Loan. But I would worry that Cavani may cause a situation where Torres would feel under pressure again as Cavani is an excellent player and a big name player as well(but Cavani has said he doesn't want to leave Naples anyway so...). So maybe give Sturridge more chances to prove himself as second choice striker, instead of third choice...

PR!

Not on the same scale

them players were brought relativly cheap and early on in there careers and devoloped at chelsea and became big names its not the same has attracting made players to your club in the prime of there game.

BlueBen

04 Jul 2012 20:52:54
hey ed, have Chelsea had any long term interest in the possibility of signing RVP?

With the news that he wont sign a new contract, this could be of interest to Chelsea now?

Gabz1 {Ed002's Note - No.}

04 Jul 2012 20:09:02
Despite his injury, Sagna has lots of prem and international experiance do you still think he's a possible solution to our rb problem?

Two broken legs in a year? No thanks.

Haha good one,

04 Jul 2012 19:51:32
Hulk for £40 mil or Cavani for £40 mil??
Thoughts guys? MB

If we sign cavani its him or torres if we sign hulk you can play both and therefore no disbutes and sitting an in form player on the bench. And hulk is better

Very debatable that Hulk is better. Cavani is in a more competitve league plus has scored more goals and works harder for the team.

Hulk for me, can play both wide and central striker. Creative, pacey and powerful. Absolutely perfect for the problem RW position. Cavani no doubt is a excellent striker but im guessing we will be playing with 1 central striker this year and that will be Torres. Having both Torres and Cavani although some would say is a good headache is probably a headache RDM could do without
Chelsea Mole

Er I say hulk, only because he can play wide and we always lacked width since robben ect left; cavani brilliant striker thou but fingers crossed Torres does well

Well they are fundamentally two diffrent players Cavani is a deep lying forward,has were Hulk is mainly a RW or fill in striker,I belive he would be used on the RW for chelsea and therefore a bid for one shoudnt effect any bid we make on the other. what i definatly do Know for certain is we wont be paying 40 mil for either of them.


on a personal note i dont feel has though Cavani is right for chelsea we would have the same issue we had when torres and drogba were paired chelsea playing style will be diffrent next year and i feel torres would benefit more from having a secondary striker like Jovetic behind him. but that just my humble opinion.


BlueBen

Hulk any day of the week he can beat a man make goals score goals for fun yup the next best thing to drogba look at him on utube boys.

04 Jul 2012 19:09:15
It seems that Samir may be correct. Hulk is part owned by an Urguay club -Rentistas.

Always Blue

Cheers Bro!


Samir

I dont think anybody is doubting Hulk is indeed part owned by another party. The doubt i have however is Porto are well renowned to be a ridiculous hard team to negotiate with. I strongly doubt we have even met Porto's asking price even before we add on difficulties with third part ownerships. All ads up to a very complex deal and Will drag on all summer would be my guess
Chelsea Mole

Nobody is questioning Hulk is part-owned by a 3rd party, most South American players are....what people are debating is that Chelsea have agreed a deal with Porto for their share of Hulk.

Just for you Samir,

Steve

04 Jul 2012 17:59:42
Hey EDs do you believe Chelsea could sign Paulo Henrique Ganso? Plus we all know Chelsea are actively pursuing a rb an rw but my question is will we then also sign a striker that is discussed constantly or a cm? Cheers for your time {Ed002's Note - There is bunch of stuff sourrounding Ganso still that makes it tough to say what will happen. Certainly there remains interest in a striker.}

Roughly do you know how many players the club are trying to bring in ED? {Ed002's Note - So if I say seven then you say who - forget it.}

No ed you dont have to say who just roughly how many the club are looking in to bring? {Ed002's Note - I am not being dragged in to this.}

If you think about it it is likely to be a rb, rw and then it depends on the market

I am no Ed, but if my knowledge is correct we are looking at (more or less) an RB and Winger certainly, a striker and possibly a midfielder depending on the movements of current players.

04 Jul 2012 16:55:55
ed have i missed something because a few people seems to think we own 90% of hulk

curt {Ed002's Note - I have no idea what you have missed Curt. But by the general tone of you posts I think you skipped etiquette classes at the very least.}

Brilliant

And you complain about other people being rude

when you get called out yourself you wont put the posts up or if your infact wrong the post wont get put up

curt {Ed002's Note - Curt, I am completely sick of the abuse on these pages now, and most of it is down to you and a couple of other CSing vegetables. So you get your way to ruin everything.}

04 Jul 2012 13:25:07
Hey Ed Me Again just thought id throw out that reminder about the list you said youd do for us its been a few days so if work allows it would be appriciated mate if not ill remind later on in week, While im here also just wondering if we still hold any intrest in Dembele all reports seem to of gone quiet so thought i would ask cheers pal.

BlueBen {Ed002's Note - Try Friday - I am real short on time.}

No worries Ed appriciate you have paid work to take care of before this, bills have to be paid i know the feeling. Ill chuck a reminder out friday fella.

BlueBen {Ed002's Note - Appreciate that.}

Surely if you aware of who the players are it would not take you more than a few minutes to compile the list, or at least not much longer than it takes you to write your condescending and plainly rude responses to some of the less educated fans. {Ed002's Note - I will try and be nicer to you in the future.}

Some ppl make me laugh blueben understands that ed has a job that pays the bills but the post above is an person to say the least if u dont like it p**** off ed keep up the good work and ignore these ppl that either still at school or dont work.

jambo

Yeah exactly jambo dontworry fella hes obviously anthor tottenham in disguise

BlueBen

04 Jul 2012 14:16:10
WOW. According to the footballing english rules, English clubs aren't allowed to "part own" a player, even though it is common in Europe and South America. Therefore, untill we own 100% of Hulks playing rights, we cannot officially announce the signing of Hulk because technically he is not fully our player (even if we have pretty much bought 90% of his playing rights).


Samir {Ed002's Note - That is not correct. English clubs can part own players and Chelsea part own several. The rule simply stops part owned players playing in England, not clubs owning them.}

Yep, sorry for the confusion. What I meant to say was that English clubs aren't allowed to play a part owned player. This is why nothing has been annouced because it would be pointless to announce that Chelsea pretty much own 90% of Hulks playing rights, seeing as that player still could not play for Chelsea fc.
My point stands that Chelsea would have to buy the remaining 10% in order for Hulk to be an official Chelsea player (in a sense that he could then play for Chelsea FC).


Samir

Samir - your spot on, reports from brazil and Portugal are basically saying the same thing, just got to wait I guess. Blue canton!

Thanks Blue Canton!


Samir

Yeah hopefully this all gets resolved asap so Hulk can settle in and get a full pre-season under his belt.

Samir is making it up as he goes along. Chelsea do not "pretty much own" 90% of Hulk because Porto has not accepted anything. Any agreement with Chelsea has to be reported to the Lisbon stock exchange as Porto is a publicly listed company, and no statement to the exchange has been issued by the club.

Speculating about secret done deals with Porto is a waste of time. Because there is no such thing. If and when it happens, we'll know because Porto are duty-bound to disclose it.

Sorry If ive missed anything, but have we actually agreed a fee, to say we own approx 90%. I take it Porto just want CFC to cough up the extra 10%.
Thanks

Why is it that the ppl calling samir a liar dont sign there names.

jambo

I think Chelsea must have only bought 90% of Kalou from feyenoord, it was a pity the 10% we didn't buy was his brain.

Kenny

Thats right yes. Chelsea have agreed a fee on principle, but Porto want Chelsea o cough up more money for the 10%, just as you put it.


Samir

No because porto dont own that other 10% we havent agreed anything samir must of dreamt last night that we signed hulk

curt

Jesus Christ Curt, Have you not been paying attention?!? Porto want to buy back the 10% from the company and sell it to Chelsea, Hence increasing the original fee that was agreed. However, Chelsea want Porto to buy back the 10% and sell it to them under the original fee that was agreed.


Samir

04 Jul 2012 11:21:00
ED is there any interest in Matt Jarvis? {Ed002's Note - Past interest has disappeared as soon as price is mentioned.}

Someone was watching the press conference ......

I'm new to this Jarvis rumour so apologies if I am a little behind but is there any truth that we have made a bid of �4m as Sky Sports have reported?

This isn't true, I actually know him, I'm good mates with his brother. I think it's just his agent trying to get his name out there.

NP

Why the hell would we want Matt Jarvis?

I know Matt Jarvis dad very well he is a top top bloke he is a top table tennis coach and former England No1 also his mum was No 1 also for England but as bias as I am Matt is not quite good enough for Chelsea at this moment I dont think he would improve the team hope Nick dont read this though.

04 Jul 2012 10:10:18
Hi Ed, if what's reported in the papers is true about RVP being 'priced' at 12m ... WHY WONT WE GO FOR HIM!? Best striker in the pl last season and 28m cheaper than what we'd have to pay for the likes of cavani

Chaz {Ed002's Note - Chelsea have no interest in RvP.}

But older than cavani and has only been a 1 season wonder

curt

RvP has only had one season without a long-term injury at Arsenal. Aside from last season he only manages around 20 games on average.

More importantly he has already said that he would never move to another English club!

NP

03 Jul 2012 22:05:40
If sturridge goes to spurs, will we look to buy moses? thanks ed {Ed002's Note - The two matters are unrelated.}

04 Jul 2012 00:02:13
Ed will the players that are involved in the Olympics miss any
Premier league matches, can't afford to lose mata !!

Cheers ed, and keep up the good work

Jm10 {Ed018's Note - there will be no conflict with scheduling but fitness could be an issue. i believe if you make it to the finals players will possibly have played 6 or 7 matches in 3 weeks}

Who would be your ideal signings this summer ED018? {Ed018's Note - Hulk, Jovetic, Azpilicueta. And maybe Cavani}

In other words then mata is going to be playing 6 or 7 games at the olympics

curt

03 Jul 2012 22:26:39
Looks like the Cavani to Chelsea rumor is looking very likely, Sky have just put him 6/4 fave to join Chelsea this summer, hope he joins before the US tour. Someone told me who has a relative who works for the ground staff at Stamford Bridge that Didier Drogba is the man who persuaded Cavani to join Chelsea and were seen having a friendly chat after the Champs League game.

My aunt's neighbour's sister-in-law whose cousin works at Stamford Bridge as a tea lady overheard the same conversation.

Hes been 6/4 for the last month. means nothing. ma u were favorites 4 hazzard look how that turned out

Wasnt a conversation, it came from one of the players telling some of the staff what was going off before the team left for their holidays. Drogba was leaving the club anyway and said he wanted Cavani to replace him. Big mistake if Chelsea let him slip from their grasp, Barca wouldnt hesitate to buy him and neither would Man City. Hulk is a disaster waiting to happen, bad temperament, part owned by some other person/club/business, has all the warning signs of another Tevez. {Ed021's Note -