Chelsea Rumours Archive July 04 2011

04 Jul 2011 23:25:55
ed are we interested in moussa sissokho {Ed002's Note - No.}

04 Jul 2011 18:03:18
ED002 as you say to your understanding Zhirkov and Malouda have been told they can find new clubs..so this must mean we will sign a left footed winger? {Ed002's Note - So it would seem. Malouda may not wish to leave of cousre.}

04 Jul 2011 16:17:58
Eds i dont know if you saw palermos chief exec zamparini sayon that pastore will end up in spain or england and that he puts real madrid and malaga favourites But im sure madrid have no interest in the player and as we have reportedly bid 45 mil what chance do you give him on joining us? {Ed002's Note - Not too much chance, but a chance. And I would not read too much into anything said by Palermo staff - they will say something else tomorrow.}

04 Jul 2011 15:57:31
Why are we looking at coentrau when we have cole, Bertrand and van Anholt (who was excellent when given a game in last seasons fa cup). We are desperate on the other side of the pitch at right back. Any news on a right back ed ? {Ed018's Note - Coentrao will more than likely end up at Madrid. I dont think Cole is leaving, and there would be no point in bring in a left back if Cole stays, especially with Van Aanholt and Bertrand on the team}

04 Jul 2011 14:52:06
When chelsea won the league and cup double two seasons ago the main front three in a 4-3-3 was:
Anelka
Drogba
Malouda

a french speaking front three

now these players are older they will move on this season or the next and the new front three that will win us more thropies will a spanish speaking front three of

Sanchez
Torres
Mata

KTBFFH

04 Jul 2011 13:27:45
is it true ED002 OR ED018 that chelsea made a move for Contreao and included rajkovic in the deal? {Ed002's Note - I don't know the terms of any offer.}

04 Jul 2011 13:05:39
ED002: Now that Ashley has publicly backed the manager and stated that he doesn't intend to leave, should we put to bed all this fuss about joining Jose down south? Hence the interest in Coentrao? Also any legs in David Luiz story?

To the targets - Pepe, Walcott, Rodwell - are they all without substance? {Ed002's Note - Zhirkov will likely be leaving so it may not be that simple, and Coetrao would be a good long term left back. However, I would guess it will be less likely if Cole is to stay. I don't know anything about the Luiz situation.}

Yes Ed002, but with your experience and expertise on our club, i very much doubt we would be putting some odd 25 mil euro for a backup to the only stable position in the starting 11.

{Ed002's Note - We will have to wait and see.}

Coentrao can also be pushed up into left wing and with anelka and malouda looking likely to leave he might play in front of cole not instead of him {Ed002's Note - It may be an option to play him in midfield.}

04 Jul 2011 12:58:24
Hey ed, any chance of us just buying neymar and ganso for 80 million? It would sort our midfield and attack and the two can help each other adapt. {Ed018's Note - Ganso at this point seems to prefer a move to AC Milan, i do like your idea though}

04 Jul 2011 12:11:18
Ed, what is the latest on Arda Turan and lukaku?
are we still interested in willian?
how are chances of modric cumin to chelsea at present?

thanks {Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed about Arda - he was offered as part of a deal to take Drogba to Galatasaray. Nothing else. The situation remains the price on Lukaku. I rather hope that there is still no further interest in Willian as he gives less than Kakuta to me. I could not second guess what may happen about Modric - to me it seems unlikely.}

04 Jul 2011 12:02:01
Ed, I think I understand what youre saying about the Aguero situation, but I just want to make sure. I feel that Chelsea are willing to meet his transfer fee; however they find his wages to be ridiculous and also a future issue with the financial fair play situation looming. Is that correct, and is there anyone offering a package close to his 200k? {Ed002's Note - The transfer fee was not an issue for Chelsea or Manchester United, or I imagine several other clubs. The FFP rules would not have been considered but an effort was made to come up with some sort of deal whereby "the package" on offer to the player would be acceptable. This may have included, for example, a proportion of any sell on fee above x GBP after y years - that type of thing. There are additional complexities due to existing contracts the player has over image rights, sponsorship in Argentina etc.. These are part of his existing deal with Atletico Madrid. Now we have a deal in place for the player with Juventus, but no deal for the transfer. It is all about money, but not simply cash I am afraid.}

It still strikes me, that Atletico can afford something like 200 K Euro for a player a week. Come on, something is wrong here. He may be willing to get this much, bt i can't see him actually making this much now in Madrid.

{Ed002's Note - As I tried to explain above, the deal is not simply cash. They have arranged for image rights through a third party, individual sponsorship and they pay hard cash as well. You just have to accept this is the deal. Sponsorship is a common way to pay wages in certain countries but it is very much a short term solution. Santos have used it with Robinho for example, and are now trying to do it with Ganso. Atletico have sold a proportion of player rights to raise money for wages. You have to keep in mind that the turnover of clubs outside of England is not driven so much by money passing through the gate.

This much i do understand. But the only restriction when it comes to footabllers economical rights is a third party ownership in PL. Therefor, can't we just accept to carry his preceding deals of sponsorship, to accomodate the player, or does it make an exception for the rest of the squad to renegotiate?

{Ed002's Note - Chelsea have tried to put an acceptable deal together and, I suppose, may well try again. Nobody is going to want to be held to random though.}

04 Jul 2011 11:42:49
Are Barcelona looking to off load David villa and if they are would we be interested.Also why are we looking at neymar when we could get a very good player in juan mata for half the price.I would like to see us buy:
Aguero/David villa
Bale/mata
Nasri/sneijder
Robben
Dani alves
150m
Sell;kalou, bosingwa, anelka, mikel {Ed002's Note - David Villa has always made it clear that he did not want to play out side of Spain. His age means no resale value, and his value does not represent good business. It would be a mistake. You may have a lengthy wait over the other players listed as well.}

04 Jul 2011 10:25:11
Hi Ed,

I dont know these days where we ever are in relation to players like, Neymar, Pastore, Sanchez, Modric etc. because one minute its this and one minute its that so im just gonna leave it, let time run its course and if they are wearing blue come August the 31st then im a happy man.

BUT what are the chances of Chelsea signing some of the (what are considered) lesser players like Marek Hamsik and Juan Mata?

Cheers {Ed002's Note - I guess there is a chance, but it will depend what the new manager wants to do with players Chelsea have looked at in the past.}

Mata&Hamsik are not lesser players, both of them are proven and much better players than above mentioned.

04 Jul 2011 09:04:04
Whats the latest On Pastore? {Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed that I know of. There remains the thought that he will stay in Italy.}

Quite frankly Ed002 - we both know, that only Milanese teams and suddenly rich Roma could possibly acquire him. We won't see a day where Galliani splashes something like 50 mil euros, Moratti could go after Pastore, but only by making rrom within the squad by possibly selling departing Sneijder ( but where nor us nor MU would pay his wages), and then there's romans. I doubt they can afford him. Seeling DeRossi? Maybe. But what message would that send to that erratic fanbase? I just can't see this happening.

{Ed002's Note - I am by no means convinced that a transfer to Chelsea would go through but it is not a simple issue of a transfer within Italy whilst he has a non EU passport. AC Milan have a major quota crisis and both Inter and Roma are trying to get additional non- EU slots. Both Barcelona and Chelsea have made bids and those bids are on the table with his agent. I suspect the player will not want to move to England yet, but you are over-simplifying the situation.}

Thank you for sharing and posting it. Still would like to know who is Barca shopping, besides obviously Bojan?

{Ed002's Note - David Villa, Affalay, Sanchez, Jeffren, Bojan, perhaps some fringe players.}

04 Jul 2011 04:19:28
Ed, I think I understand what youre saying about the Aguero situation, but I just want to make sure. I feel that Chelsea are willing to meet his transfer fee; however they find his wages to be ridiculous and also a future issue with the financial fair play situation looming. Is that correct, and is there anyone offering a package close to his 200k? {Ed002's Note - The transfer fee was not an issue for Chelsea or Manchester United, or I imagine several other clubs. The FFP rules would not have been considered but an effort was made to come up with some sort of deal whereby "the package" on offer to the player would be acceptable. This may have included, for example, a proportion of any sell on fee above x GBP after y years - that type of thing. There are additional complexities due to existing contracts the player has over image rights, sponsorship in Argentina etc.. These are part of his existing deal with Atletico Madrid. Now we have a deal in place for the player with Juventus, but no deal for the transfer. It is all about money, but not simply cash I am afraid.}

03 Jul 2011 23:35:30
Ed 002: It appears, or is it just us and the media looking at Chelseas weak spots and identifying right back position as our problematic one. I can't recall us getting anyone decent since Dan Petrescu. But the pond is really weak.

I know we are supposedly after vdW. He is an achievable target i reckon. But since there's no progress in there, i just wonder if we ain't after someone else as a first option. Alves is not leaving Barca, Ramos is just looking for more money and trying to pull ours and City's attention to drag more money out of Madrid, and then what? Sure there's Maicon, but to me he has lost his step in the last season, plus he isn't gettin any younger. There Santon - he is a talent, but still a project and a youngster, and then...? Who are we after? {Ed002's Note - Santon would b a great buy and he could be available at the right price. However, I don't see him leaving Italy just yet and a move to Roma or a loan in Italy seem most likely. Oddly enough it is again Roma who are after van der Wiel as well as Chelsea. It might be one that the new manager needs to sort out.}

What is wrong with ivanovic ? {Ed002's Note - Ivanovic sees himself as a centre back who will help out at RB if needed. He does not want to play regularly as a right back.}

03 Jul 2011 23:25:30
hey ed, how come barcelona are in the race to sign neymar sanchez and rossi aswell as fabregas if their stuggling to find money {Ed002's Note - They certainly won't sign everyone and are actively trying to unload a couple of players. They are looking also at payment plans and part ownership deals.}

What is the last time you have heard of a part time ownership in La Liga? Also is it possible to have a part ownership with a club from different FA? Who do you think they are shopping?

{Ed002's Note - There are numerous part ownership deals in Spain and there is no restriction of cross league part ownership. Take Atletico Madrid player Eduardo Salvio as an example, he is part owned by Benfica of Portugal. English clubs can also part own players who play in foreign leagues, but part ownership of players playing in England is not allowed. Take for example Chelsea's part ownership of Fluminense's Wallace.}

03 Jul 2011 23:39:45
ED 002 - I remember you telling about Aguero proposed package, which wasn't accepted. I understand he wants out, i understand the matraces are willing to do business (supposedly at some 38 euros, which we can afford), but what exactly are his wages, that Atletico can afford, but we can't? {Ed018's Note - im pretty sure he makes 200,000 or more a week and wanted the same salary when he moved