Chelsea Rumours Archive December 30 2012

 

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30 Dec 2012 23:08:18
Ye would be chuffed with those three players. Two would be great deals in the current market because of contract situations. And also two of the players count as homegrown which is a bonus. I'm not going to lie tho - I would be ecstatic if Falcao or Cavani came in. But the price for those three players is more likely to be around £35m.

MB

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This was in response to another post but the three players in question were Ba, Baines and Walcott.

MB

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30 Dec 2012 23:08:02
A move for Demba Ba doesn't make a great deal of sense to me! We have a big physical striker at the club, fair play he is out on loan at the moment but if we sign Ba (not for the 7 million buy out clause) you might as well turn the light off on Lukakus Chelsea career.

Right now, for me, the smart business in January would be to sign Theo Walcott and make a loan move for David Villa.

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That's the scenario I would be most happy with! Although I'd love to see Falcao ASAP, but that's looking unlikely in January.

MB

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Totally agree surewould.

PB

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Demba Ba makes perfect sense. He would of been perfect for today's game and games like it, and Lukaku will be a great striker in the future, but Demba Ba is the finished article already.

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Torres is 28, Demba Ba is 27. Not to mention that Lukaku has already said that he wants to go out on loan again next season to make sure he's ready to slot back into the team. Which would meant that Torres would be 30 and Ba 29. Many of you want Torres to leave in the summer so at the end of the 2013/2014, it's unlikely that he'll be there and Lukaku will be able to fit in.

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Im with you surewould. BLUEBOY1

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I see your point but if you remember ba is about 26 so lukaku could be his replacement un a few years

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30 Dec 2012 22:46:49
Ed002: will we bid for Fellaini this coming window?

JG {Ed002's Note - I would doubt he would be available.}

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30 Dec 2012 22:35:29
ED002 just reading through your Falcao answers am i right in saying that Chelsea may have offered the 'buy out clause' but Athletico want him to stay till the summer but some people may want him sold now, Chelsea feel this is the best chance for them to sign Falcao as in the summer a few ore clubs may show interest and the price may rise?

CFC1905 {Ed002's Note - Not "some people", one person as I said.}

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If Chelsea do not sign Falcao in January will they still be interested in signing him in the summer ED? Or may interest wane? {Ed002's Note - I provided a lot of detail already and the summer is a long way off.}

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30 Dec 2012 22:21:19
ED002 did you find out what happened with Paulinho? is he still a target {Ed002's Note - Paulinho remains a target but the chances of a move before the summer or next winter are very slim.}

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Are chelsea looking to bring in a midfielder in this transfer window ED? {Ed002's Note - It is not the immediate priority but there may be a chance. However, consider also those that are returning from loan including YB.}

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Ed will chalobah be considered {Ed002's Note - I think Clifford would be a more likely option.}

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30 Dec 2012 19:53:33
Hi there Ed i do think you do a good job but if you do not think demba ba is coming to CHELSEA does that mean that there is still a slim chance of Falcao still arriving in Jan . {Ed002's Note - I know nothing about any discussions with Demba Ba. I have explained as nauseum about Falcao.}

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30 Dec 2012 19:03:20
I think it is about time people ignore what is being written on here. I trust SSN far more than anything that is written on here and it seems the Ed's know as much as the rest of us!

Ben {Ed018's Note - then don't come back here. You do understand that Chelsea cannot activate Ba's release clause. There would need to be a fee agreed for any meeting between Ba and Chelsea to take place}

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See ya later Ben,
Mattm

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Newcastle dont have to agree ! Ba has to agree with chelsea then aslong as the release claus it met newcastle cant reject it, why else would it be in the contract? It would be pointless otherwise {Ed002's Note - Chelsea cannot speak directly with the player without the permission of the club. The release clause cannot be activated by Chelsea.}

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But could Ron gourlay speak with Ba's agents etc about potential move {Ed002's Note - Ron Gourlay? Tonight?}

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That's why the representatives of the club and the player are meeting as SSN states.
I'm sure if Chelsea are willing to activate the release clause they will do come January then they can meet with the player {Ed002's Note - Chelsea CANNOT activate his "release clause".}

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Ben
You are a troll mate, and not even a good one Jog on!

Battersea Boy

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Right.
Chelsea CANNOT inititate the release clause.
As it has been famously pointed out to me, Chelsea are the first holders of the CL to be dumped out the group stage. Are they a CL club. No. Therefore a price needs to be arranged between Newcastle and Chelsea BEFORE any metting between Ba and Chelsea could take place.

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Chelsea would have to pay more money for Ba than a club in champions league, , arsenal and UTD could pay 7 and talk to player.. CHELSEA WOULD HAVE TO OFFER more than 7m and a fee that Newcastle accept.. We could offer 20m and Newcastle could reject.. Mattm

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Why can ppl not grasp the release claus thing its not hard.

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Hi ed why can chelsea not activate it is it becuase they are not in the champions league.

jambo

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Then why are you on here ben? If you don't believe anything that eds say then stay away.

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This is a prime example as to why eds cannot give us certain names and comment on who WILL COME innetc cos abuse and repetitive questions

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IF we are genuinely meeting Ba's reps then a fee has been agreed already (I doubt that would be much more than the release clause, why would we?). Most likely this is something triggered by Twitter, so utter rubbish.

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It is not rocket science surely to see that Ba's representatives are out there sowing all sorts of rumours in an attempt to get him a move.
As you are not in the CL he would cost you too much for what he is worth, plus his injury problems and his attitude. Go for Walcott, younger, already settled in London and after yesterday will be playing hard ball with Arsenal re his contract.

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And who's to say a fee hasn't been agreed .simple

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Well Ben, you've been proven completely wrong by believing SSN....more fool you.

Steve {Ed002's Note - I apparently Ba and Vranjkovic were seen banging on the locked gates of Stamford Bridge last night.}

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Ha ha ha

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30 Dec 2012 16:41:24
Ed, who are Chelsea looking at to be the next permanent manager? {Ed002's Note - There is no secret that Guardiola would be the preferred option, but I think it unlikely.}

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Where is Guardiola likely to go? {Ed002's Note - Four or five clubs are potentially interested with, I suspect PSG and Chelsea the least likely to be of interest to Guardiola. AC Milan might prove an interesting project for him but having Silvio Berlusconi as an owner may not suit him. The situation at Manchester United will be dependent of whether Sir Alex Ferguson wishes to carry on after the end of the season. If Manchester City decides to part company with Roberto Mancini or if Mancini decides time has come, I would think Guardiola would give any offer of a job at Manchester City consideration. If a job at Arsenal came up, I suspect that could also be something he could consider. Jose Mourinho was considered for a role at Barcelona and I recall Begiristain not being in favour of it. That in itself would not rule him out, but I would, at this time, not expect him to be moving to Manchester next summer.}

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Ed, would the club consider bringing back Mourinho if they fail to get Guardiola? Thanks! {Ed002's Note - I have no intention of getting involved in discussions about the manager right now.}

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Hi ed do you think if chelsea were to look a jose mourinho aain do you think he would want to come home. personaly he is the only manager i can say i actually want. but still support any manager who runs my club.

jambo {Ed002's Note - I have no intention of getting involved in discussions about the manager right now.}

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Ok thanks ed thanks for the insight on pep anyway would love jose to come home tho.

jambo

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30 Dec 2012 15:16:57
sunderland fan here and rumours flying around north east ba could be on his way to chelsea could be a steal for 7.5 lads

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Can't activate release clause. Chelsea not a CL club.

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30 Dec 2012 15:06:12
Guy on my German broadcast of the Everton game constantly keeps talking about Lampard replacing Beckham at LA Galaxy in January as if it was a done deal. Did I miss something or is he just full of crap?

Cheers
Beast {Ed002's Note - It is not a done deal, but a very real option.}

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Thanks Ed, well appreciated.

Cheers
Beast

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30 Dec 2012 14:29:46
just said on sky ba on his way any truth in itkevinCFC

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I think (pinky) you read this correctly

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Can't activate release clause. Chelsea not a CL club.

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30 Dec 2012 14:30:11
Demba Ba to meet Chelsea officials according to a website for a possible January signing.

Great addition for sure. A real goal scorer and will provide the goals Torres struggles to get in most games.

Shak

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Mentioned on a website too. Not a bad deal if it happens for £7.5m!

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Just been announced SSN

Phil

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Just said it on the match commentary too.

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Ed didn't know too much about this. Shows how much he knows and normally just talks out of his arse

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You'll go to hell for that one! {Ed002's Note - I know of no meeting between Ba and Chelsea and no offer accepted from Chelsea by Newcastle that would reult in them giving permission for the player to meet with Chelsea.}

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On a website match commentary aswel.

Seems a steal for the price. Proven goal scorer. A great replacement for Sturridge aswel.

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Irrespective of whether or not this particular rumour is true, it does make perfect sense for Chelsea to go in for him. If the number one choice isn't available until the summer, then why not go for a proven PL goal scorer who can be got for a snip at £7.5m? My only surprise is that we haven't been seriously linked with him before.

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I think SS said that they were meeting tonight, but Newcastle have not yet received an offer. If the rumours about his contract are accurate, I guess the fee is what it is, but if true, I suppose Newcastle must have sanctioned the meet. {Ed002's Note - That would of course be tapping up.}

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Don't seem to know much then. Is there any transfer news that you do know about?

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Ed002 doesn't talk out of his arse he knows his stuff delboy(34)

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I'm not suggesting he's been tapped up. What I mean is that if his contract position is as reported, then the fee is already known and doesn't need to be discussed in the normal sense. I'm not saying for one minute that Newcastle haven't sanctioned the meet. {Ed002's Note - I think you have perhaps misunderstood a number of things related to his fee and the Premier League rules and UEFA regulations. What you are suggesting is clear cut tapping up of a player by Chelsea.}

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It's not tapping up if Newcastle have agreed to the meet, which is what I said must have happened in both of my previous posts. I think perhaps you've misunderstood my point about the fee! {Ed002's Note - In order for Newcastle to have agreed to Ba meeting with Chelsea it means that Chelsea must have met any fee that Newcastle wish to place on the player. That has, I am pretty certain, not happened. The alternative is of course tapping up by Chelsea. I am not sure why it is so difficult for due process to be understood?}

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Straight back at ya!

I'm not sure why it's so difficult for you to understand my point that the fee is widely known, therefore although I fully accept that Chelsea would have had to meet their valuation, I'm suggesting that due to the known contract situation, there wouldn't have had to have been protracted fee discussions.

I'm pretty sure that on all of my previous posts on this thread, I stated that Newcastle must have sanctioned the meet, if indeed it's happening. I think you're focussing too much on what I said was stated on SS. If that's the case, I was simply posting what was reported, not that I necessarily think that it must be the how the situation has come about. {Ed002's Note - HWill you share this widely known fee with us?}

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No need to get chippy about it Ed, I"m only trying to have a conversation about what was stated on the biggest sports network in Europe. If you say it's inaccurate, I'm happy to accept that, but does that mean that we can't even discuss it? Take a chill pill, I'm not after your job! {Ed002's Note - All I am asking you to do is share what this well known fee that Chelsea can buy Ba for is? It was you who raised this but now you seem to be reluctant to explain.}

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Not at all, I'm happy to repeat what Pardew stated earlier in the week. That is, that Ba's future is out of Newcastle's hands and that if a club meet his contractual clauses, then they are powerless to stop him leaving. The fee is reported to be just £7m. Now, I have no doubt that there would be add on and the ever huge agent fees, but the fee to Newcastle would be £7m.

Now, before you jump on my back, I'm simply repeating often reported rumour - as you well know. But for some reason, you seem to want make a point. I'm just not sure what that point is?

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This situation that ed is saying is even if every one knows what price ba is going for chelsea still have to have a bid in princible agreeded with newcastle to even talk to the player which ed says there is no such thing at this point so if chelsea speak to the player about a transfer tonight then that is tapping up. how hard is that to understand.

jambo

{Ed002's Note - Perhaps someone needs to consider that the clause being referred to relates only to a side that can offer Ba Champions League football - which Cheslea cannot. This is really hopeless.}

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You're right, it is hopeless. My comment is repeatedly being taken in isolation, without acknowledging it within the context I posted it.

Regarding your CL comment, I genuinely didn't know that. Very interesting.

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Ed, that CL comment raises another interesting question. If Necastle are obliged to accept an offer of over £7m (or so) from a CL club, if they believe the clause will be triggered, wouldn't they find a bid from a non CL club attractive, presumedly because they could demand slightly more? {Ed002's Note - Newcastle's preference would be for Ba to renegotiate his contract providing him a higher wage and Newcastle haing the protection of removing cluses such as the one he has. If he is to leave, getting the highest possible fee would be best for them as you say.

I understand that Newcastle are still likely to get offers for Demba Ba, perhaps from QPR and Galatasaray and that there may be interest from Anzhi Makhachkala and lingering interest from Lokomotiv Moscow. It is possible he will move but he would look for a Champions League side. He and his agent are trying to court Arsenal although they seemingly have other preferred targets at this time. His agent has also mentioned Germany as a possible destination. And he could be very expensive to buy for a non-CL side, has additional agent fees hanging over his transfer anywhere, high wage expectations and high insurance costs.}

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Really hope you're right Ed002, Ba is bottom of my list!

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Can't activate release clause. Chelsea not a CL club.

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Can't activate release clause. Chelsea not a CL club.

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30 Dec 2012 10:45:43
Although we failed in getting cavani in last summer and falcao committing to athletico til summer and as mentioned by then we will be paying 48m for a 28yr old I think we should concentrate on cavani again and damiao as our young future option, falcao in my opinion is a better striker but cavani does have more pace and strength and maybe suited better to prem league, mattm

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Cavani is also 27

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I agree falcoa will cost 45 50 mill n 2 yrs down d road by 30 i think cavani r schrule up front .

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30 Dec 2012 09:49:26
Hi All,
Im hearing that Fellaini is close to agreeing a move to Chelsea from people close to the club!! anyone else heard of this.....

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"Hearing" from who?

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30 Dec 2012 08:07:06
ED002 is it true that falcao has a buyout clause that if any team can match and atletico can do nothing about it or is it more complex than that?
Thanks, johnnycfc {Ed002's Note - Don't read too much in to the "buy out" clauses, and as you suggest, it is not simply case of matching it to force a sale - particularly in cases of clubs from different countries. An example being that Chelsea has already agreed to match the "buy out" clause for Falcao to no avail.}.

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As far as I can tell, this is the first time you've revealed that his buyout clause has been met. Did this happen in the summer? {Ed002's Note - Not in the summer - but please do not read too much in to "buy out" clauses. Atletico Madrid would rather wait for the summer for a sale but are well aware he will leave at some point.}

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ED002 is it not possible that Chelsea agree with Athletico in January to sign Falcao in the summer in there no way both clubs could agree to such a move with Falcao seeing the season out in Spain with a agreement with Chelsea in place to join in the summer?

Cfc1905 {Ed002's Note - No, that is not an option.}

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30 Dec 2012 06:24:43
Hey guys, I'm back

Look, I've been told again that remy WILL happen for 15 million Ueros

My source is very reliable

Shedlower

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