Chelsea Banter Archive November 08 2015

 

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08 Nov 2015 21:33:21
Looking at the last few games, I think our main issue is the lack of players in the box. At times on Saturday and against Kiev there was not a single person in the box despite us having possession in the attacking third.

Another problem is our lack of shooting. There was one point on Saturday, when there was 4-5 players in and around the box and yet none of them wanted to shoot, and just kept recycling the ball.

And finally, hardly any of our players are making off the ball runs. They either stand completely still or condense play by constantly running towards the ball.

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08 Nov 2015 22:08:14
I agree, also costa's positioning st times is suspect . He never seems to be in the box when he is supposed to! Although he does look very isolated st times.

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08 Nov 2015 22:09:47
Costa's the main problem. He's been drifting too far wide this season. He needs to stay centre and near there last man. It's getting quite annoying.

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09 Nov 2015 05:44:50
Fuser and I are on the same page with a lack of off the ball movement. It started last year when players would just watch the Eden show and it's continued through this season. I personally haven't seen Diego making too many runs and I'm intrigued as to why Jose hasn't been more prone to expiriment with remy or falcao as diegos not close to form at the moment.

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{Ed001's Note - that is an odd one. Costa offers nothing to the team right now, sometimes he is as much a hindrance as a help, and Jose is normally ruthless with getting rid of players who are not contributing.}

09 Nov 2015 10:00:27
Ed,
I think Chelsea are a bit light in attack. what are Jose's options?
I like Remy, but he will never be the main striker at a club like Chelsea, and Falcao has not exactly set the Prem on fire.
Costa the only option?

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{Ed001's Note - when Costa is so badly out of form you have to change something. I am not a fan of Remy but he could hardly be any worse than Costa right now.}

09 Nov 2015 10:35:10
Totally agree, but everybody knows I'm a Remy fan, (meaning I would have loved him at Arsenal) .
Biggest problem with strikers is you have to keep playing them even if they are off form, especially with limited options as back up, hoping that one goal will get them back on track.

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09 Nov 2015 10:38:41
'Own goals' is our top scorer in the Premier League so far this season. That says it all!

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09 Nov 2015 11:42:29
And Willian from free kicks.

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09 Nov 2015 13:46:14
One thing that you can say about remy is that his pace makes the other teams defenders drop deeper which provides more room for the creative players. And as Ed said Diegos doing absolutely nothing at the moment.

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09 Nov 2015 14:01:33
As much as I agree that Costa isn't doing enough at the moment, Remy and Falcao are certainly NOT good enough alternatives. Remy is Mr offside and Falcao just doesn't look like a footballer anymore, similar situation to Torres really which is very sad to see. Would love to see Griezman come in in January (I realise it would be very hard, especially in Jan) so that we can add more goals to our game. For now though I believe we have to stick by Costa. One goal for Diego could change his and our entire season around and the same goes for Hazard. Surely things will begin to change soon enough.

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09 Nov 2015 15:12:46
I think everyone has summed up exactly what is wrong with us up front, lack of firepower. The biggest disappointment is Falcao and the JM gamble not paying off. I really thought he had pulled off a master stroke although in fairness to him he hasn't had a run in the team so he can build an understanding but now he is a goner. To me Remy is an impact player, something he did very well last year but not a regular starter which leaves Costa. I fear he is turning into another Michu, a one season wonder. He rarely shoots from any distance, offers nothing in the air and keeps drifting to the left wing; we were spoilt by Didier Drogba, everything a striker should be. Remy might be kept on but Falcao and Costa will be gone and hopefully they will listen to what JM wants if he survives.

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09 Nov 2015 16:05:58
Dags I hear you are not a bad centre forward, how about making an appearance in a blue shirt for a couple of games. Nobody on the Arsenal page would need to know, the Dagenham Drogba.

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09 Nov 2015 19:13:03
Costa is not the main problem. He is playing the way Mourinho wants him to. It was very similar with Torres.
It is about tactics and formation. And both are wrong.

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12 Nov 2015 00:08:37
Costa has not been the same since his last hamstring injury. He seems reluctant to run in behind and is hardly ever in the box. All he does is drift out left or run towards the ball with his back to goal reducing space for our attacking players. Give Remy a chance next game as although not as rounded a player as Costa, Remy knows how to grab a goal.

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08 Nov 2015 21:08:42
Mentioned on here today already, Ruben Lofthouse Cheek's goal v Liverpool under 21's. Quality goal from a quality player, shows everything the first team is lacking, pace, power, determination and a cutting edge he must get a run in the team. A joke that Ramires is on a new 4 year contract and Mikel is on over 100k a week.
These young guys have to get a chance and not just one game.

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08 Nov 2015 22:10:26
Was a superb goal he literally just barged past the whole team! Don't forget though he is young and his time will come.

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08 Nov 2015 20:30:31
Ed002, I will like to know if the board still retain trust in MOU service, I read some news claiming his position will be reviewed during the international break! Pls don't be angry am bringing this up again just wish the guy is given more time.

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{Ed002's Note - I have no interest in answering any questions on this page.}

08 Nov 2015 16:45:31
Wouldn't it be funny if we signed Harry Kane? I think the lads quality. Think he's the best striker out there who's not at a top European club.

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08 Nov 2015 17:43:38
Well they are doing better than us. I am sure spuds fans would make a few comments about your statement.

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08 Nov 2015 18:59:21
Wouldn't take him for a gold pig.

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08 Nov 2015 20:12:33
A top European club for harry Kane well that rules out you lot. He is at a bigger club now than Chelsea plus I don't think he would enjoy a relegation scrap. He is at the academy of football.

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08 Nov 2015 20:19:57
Bigger club now hahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaAaaaa.

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08 Nov 2015 20:30:29 How old are you raver 12, silly boy bigger club relegation battle were not even in bottom 3 and Spurs will never ever be a bigger club no matter what happens and when a big club comes in for Kane he will go. He's one of our own will not be sung for much longer, just not gud enough for us.

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08 Nov 2015 21:12:47
Well when I was growing up you lot were nothing. I think you were in division 2when I was in school and nobody supported you. We are a much bigger club than you always have and always will be. Only romans mega cash has bought you things pr you would still be that crap club with a dog track around the pitch with 20,000fans lol and getting relegated every other season lol.

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08 Nov 2015 21:27:59
Yawn! . No history blah blah get a new line!

In the words of the special one! "You continue to talk about our history while we continue to make it"

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08 Nov 2015 21:36:15
I knew there was a reason Roman avoided white hart lane. All them delusional fans.

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09 Nov 2015 09:04:21
Well this gave me a good laugh. Spurs are a small club. Even before Roman's money might I remind you we were consistently playing in domestic cup finals and even a European one in the late 90s. We has world class players like Zola, Di Matteo, Desailly, Le Beauf, Wise, Petrescu. Not to mention finishing around the top 6 every season which is more than can be said for you lot. And since Roman has come in we have become a super power in world football and the first London club to win the Champions League. You're making yourself look silly mate.

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09 Nov 2015 17:02:26
Depends how old you I suppose how you view other clubs. Although I have supported Chelsea all my life, now in my 60s, Spurs in the Bill Nicholas era with one of the great partnerships upfront in Gilzean and Greaves, were always a bigger club than us. I will always view them as a big club, the same as Arsenal and Liverpool. Just depends on your era, and when u started to watch football, how you view another club, it's only since Roman took over that we have become a top european team,

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09 Nov 2015 20:35:37
Thanks sid on your fine post, that was the point I was trying to make about spurs. I am not as old as you but I grew up watching spurs lifting major trophys and I know we have fallen away but growing up we were one of the biggest clubs in the country.

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08 Nov 2015 14:21:39
Would just like to say Chelsea are playing Liverpool u21's today and are winning 2-0.

Ten seconds into second half from the kick off LOFTUS CHEEK went on a fifty yard charge and scored. Oh Yeah and Traore scored the first.

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08 Nov 2015 15:00:57
4-0 now buddy and they'll probably still never play first team football.

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08 Nov 2015 15:10:51
It's disgusting isn't it? I love Mourinho but this part about youth really annoys me with him that's why if he left I would like Guardiola. He rotates and plays youth. Kingsley Coman's a great example. He's been playing fantastic for Bayern and he's scored a couple. Kenedy and Traore are about the same level as him also.

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08 Nov 2015 15:35:28
Traore and Loftus-Cheek are real talents and must surely be given more first team experience.

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08 Nov 2015 15:37:45
Only if every side had to play 1 or 2 players from their academy will more players make it with top clibs.
With Gibbs Wlishire Szczesney Arsenal are 4th place trophy undisputed championship but with Monreal Ozil Cech we are much more realistic challenger's.
If every sides has to play 2 in every game with no exceptions you need to have atleast 8 in the squad because of injury form rotation etc,

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08 Nov 2015 16:42:42
I think there should be a rule in the premier league where you should have to play two youth homegrown players in every game. It would make derbies better and more passionate.

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08 Nov 2015 18:51:27
It would be fantastic and more workable if uafa introduced it too Eden, putting every team in the same position where no team could rely 100% on the transfer market for trophies would mean every cub investing much more of their money into developing talent.
Hard to believe Liverpool can't produce 8 to 10 local lads over a 10 year period to keep both Everton and Liverpool going and Newcastle Manchester Southampton Norwich etc.
I think we'd probably see some teams fielding 7 or 8 local lads at times simply because of a bumper crop at that time.

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08 Nov 2015 14:00:19
If we're not happy with Baba or Ivanovic why not give Aina a go at RB? And Loftus-Cheek in midfield instead of Ramires who offers nothing but energy? Let's get players in who love Chelsea who have come through the system. I know Jose won't do it but it's obvious the proven players aren't doing great.

Kenedy or Traore as RW would be another. Kenedy is so passionate about playing you could see his goal against Walsall celebrated like he won the World Cup.

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08 Nov 2015 14:10:59
I agree on RLC and Traore/Kenedy, but I'd be surprised if Aina was already good enough to play at the top level. He's got all the attributes needed though so he might make it.
Ramires gives his all and he's a real warrior, but simply can't pass consistently and it kills a lot of attacks. I'd like to see RLC get a shot next to Matic or Mikel or as a box to box in a 433.
Lastly, we clearly have trouble scoring from open play, and Traore has always seemed to me as a player who will find positions to score from. His technique is superb and his long range shooting is probably some of the best we have in the squad right now. The only thing Kenedy offers more than him IMO is energy. But I'd really like to see Traore get his shot as the right winger. In the few minutes he's gotten this season he looked like he belonged at this level.

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08 Nov 2015 14:11:53
A big fan of aina, totally agree he is one I think could step in and do a good job.
I would take it further and drop costa, for a big man I don't think I ever seen him win any headers. We have had so many corners over last few games and offer no threat. Try bringing back solanke.
We have some very talented kids. We say kids but some of these players could do a job. Apparently Christianson is going well in Germany why not him at centre back.

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08 Nov 2015 14:18:00
We're going to struggle to get top 4 now and won't end up in a relegation battle; our EPL season is a write-off. In that sense our quality youth players can come into the team and play in a realtively low pressure situation - if they're not given the opportunity now then when?

Baba played well against Kiev and struggled yesterday - I think some of the criticism is a bit harsh, I'm not expecting him to be anywhere near consistent at this point.

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08 Nov 2015 14:53:36
I think we need to sell Mikel and sent falcao back and recall bamford and van ginkel to replace them,a few run outs in the FA Cup wouldn't hurt us

Apart from this we must buy Stones in January and maybe another defender who isn't cup tied

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08 Nov 2015 15:12:00
Bamford isn't even that good mate he's been over-rated by our fans. Solanke on the other hand will be a fantastic player.

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08 Nov 2015 21:46:24
Championship player of the season last season is pretty impressive given he's still young. I'd be happy to see him recalled and given a few chances to prove himself, Costa has offered so little recently and needs to be dropped. Remy would do fine and probably score goals tbf but I really want to see Bamford given a chance.

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09 Nov 2015 08:38:53
I agree to the fact we have been overhyping Bamford but he's good enough to play in the PL if given a proper run out. did anyone see City vs Middlesbrough in League/FA(cant remember which one) cup last season

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08 Nov 2015 11:03:44
Hello guys, was just thinking about yesterdays game and I believe we need to sign a top striker in january transfer window. As it would be really har to get anyone I would really go for ibrahimovic, I know he is 'old' selfish and so on. But this exactly what we need in order to save our season, get him and someone else (pogba, griezman) and try to win champions league.

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08 Nov 2015 12:04:09
LRDIt you do realise all 3 names you just mentioned would be cup tied and wouldn't be able to play for us in the champions league? As negative as it sounds I really don't see why any top player would come to us in January. The likes of Pogba, Reus, Griezmann could all move to teams guaranteed CL football next season!
I think realistically we would need to look at someone like Mauro Icardi who's been mentioned a lot (struggling to get in the Inter side lately though) .
Fact is in my personal opinion the club needs restructuring from the top downwards. People like Emenalo need to go. Whoever the manager is should be picking the players we buy, not him! Rahman to me looks very dodgy - not being funny but we could have spent an extra £10m and got Ricardo Rodriguez from Wolfsburg! Pedro looks to be an absolute appalling buy too (a lot of you will call me negative to its true) . We've been buying too many "squad players" in my opinion. When you're at the elite level we should be at you need to be buying players who strengthen your starting 11 not your bench!

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08 Nov 2015 12:25:58
Chelsea nick, completely forgot about cup. tied this one is on me. Anyway I would really love ibrahimovic at chelsea he still has 2 seasons in him, also would be good to get bamford back and replace falcao. with him.

I believe if our league form doesn't improve, just give youngsters a chance. Build team for next season!

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08 Nov 2015 13:01:35
First priority should be John Stones who isn't cup tied

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08 Nov 2015 13:17:42
Totally agree with both of you. I'd send Falcao back to Monaco and recall Bamford. His loan spell is wasting everyone's time. It's an insult that Gayle gets a game ahead of him!
Stones is an absolute must! Just chuck the chequebook at Everton or kidnap him if needs be! Haha! With FFP seemingly gone it's time to improve this team!

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08 Nov 2015 13:39:31
Emenalo needs to go? Oh dear.

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08 Nov 2015 13:51:09
Chelsea Nick: At last someone else agrees with our waste of money buys which most 'should' have questioned at the time. However, I did think JM could coax something out of Falcao but that does not appear to be the case. Michael Emenalo offered to resign when JM came back but it was not accepted and at the time JM said "I fully understand the transfer policy at the club" but there is no doubt he has been woefully let down in the last window when he knew that the squad needed strengthening and a large part of the buck must rest with him. I would doubt he would be involved in the Griezmann and Pogba negotiations that would fall to Marina Granovskaia. Personally I do not think Patrick Bamford will ever make it in the Premiership.

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{Ed001's Note - in my personal opinion, Bamford will be lucky to make it at Championship level, he was ridiculously overhyped last season.}

08 Nov 2015 13:52:36
The players you need to look at are players who probably won't be playing in the champions league next season. Stones and Laporte probably as CB's.,

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08 Nov 2015 14:14:18
Ibra would be so awesome :-P ridiculously expensive though.
And "Emenalo needs to go"? Seriously? He's done a great job of getting talent to the club over the past years.

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08 Nov 2015 15:55:53
Ibrahimovic would be an ideal short term fix and he brings a fear factor to the team as Drogba did BUT we really should have moved on from short term ventures. I am certain there will be a major overhaul, there has to be. I am equally certain that we put a marker down for Griezmann in the transfer window for next season probably involving Costa and currently we have someone almost camped on his doorstep.

I would be surprised if we went after Pogba again but we need someone alongside Matic whether RLC or another. Who else we go after is anyone's guess at the moment but I really hope we do not waste money again.

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08 Nov 2015 18:38:30
Cavani is the one we should go for.

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08 Nov 2015 21:29:29
Who are these "great talents" that Emenalo is responsible for then?

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08 Nov 2015 22:22:13
Nick, you're not happy with talented players like Traore, Musonda and Kenedy just to name a few? Or Courtois? KDB who we made a good profit on is another one. We've acquired loads of talented youngsters. Most might not be good enough to feature for our 1st team, but they're making us money to buy players who are good enough.
And of course Emenalo isn't the only one responsible for bringing them in, but he's the technical director so he's got something to do with it. He's done a very good job.

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08 Nov 2015 08:29:01
This is the time to start playing really attacking football, it will relieve pressure at the back and with the players we have I don't think many teams would be able to cope with us just going for it every time we have the ball. We have nothing to loose now and it will get Costa back in the goals again.

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08 Nov 2015 12:11:43
I think the players tried their best to attack yesterday! They had 1 or 2 shots at goal the whole game, it was us that all out attacked. Unfortunately we don't slice teams open like Arsenal or Man City because our players don't have the movement there's do. If you sit at watch, how many times do Hazard or Williannbeat 2 players and then slow down to walking pace and put their hands out signalling for someone to move!
Costa for me needs to take a look at himself! As a player who's played at a decent level as a striker (understand I'm in no way comparing myself to Costa or any professional players level) you are taught as a lone striker to go no wider than the 18 yard box during attacks! Costa isn't scoring goals because he's never in the flaming box! Every time I watch him he's got the ball on the wing and you think to yourself great, but now who's in the box to finish. oh yeah, nobody!
Look at true goalscoreres like Aguero, Suarez, Lewandowski. they're always on the box! You don't score from the wing - end of! Costa needs to either start getting in the box or he'll never start scoring again! I think a top class striker in January will see him lose his place and I wouldn't be suprised if he moved on in the summer. As much as I loved the Diego Costa who played the first half of last season, his game has totally changed and he's preventing himself from scoring goals!

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08 Nov 2015 03:43:12
Costa is a HUGE liability for us right now . He has become complacent due to lack of competition.
Overall we played well, Hazard looked sharp but the luck isn't in our favour at all. Still positive about this season and we can make it to top 6 (or somewhere near to that) and none other than Mourinho can do it for us.

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08 Nov 2015 12:26:23
Can still make top 4! Just need to win matches.

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08 Nov 2015 12:59:55
I hope we finish in top 4 that'll be some story

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