Chelsea Banter Archive June 07 2016

 

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07 Jun 2016 21:28:48
Rudiger has apparently torn his ACL. out of the Euros.

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07 Jun 2016 22:38:02
He had a nasty injury at Stuttgart prior to being loaned to Roma, may be best to steer well clear. In all honesty Kalas, Christeansen, or Omerua should get a chance.

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07 Jun 2016 22:54:01
Sad news, feel for him.

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07 Jun 2016 23:00:00
Got to be Koulibaly we go for then. Can't see Roma selling Manolas with Rudiger out injured.

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08 Jun 2016 09:29:45
HBK, as much as Christensen deserves a place in the squad after his performances last season he's on a 2 year loan spell and will be returning to BM. However, Kalas and Omeruo haven't progressed much over the last 2 years. I think Kalas could still make it at Chelsea although unlikely, but Omeruo will surely move on as he isn't good enough- he was playing for a Turkish side nobody has ever heard of last year!

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07 Jun 2016 09:38:40
Fellow posters, I have been following this sight for a number of years now and as stated before by the more astute posters, if the Ed's (002 in particular) says NO it means NO, so why keep going on about it! Over a month ago Ed 002 said Greizman to CFC this window will not happen, even after the efforts of a third party, and yet some posters still ask the question, so let it go. The correct questions are: Are we interested or in contact with Morata, Kante, etc. If the answer is no it means no, end of. , I miss the days of us fans asking a sensible question and getting a reliable and truthful answer (from Ed 002 in particular) which would ultimately prove to be right. So get real guys and girls, cut the Ed's some slack and take on board what is shared instead of questioning every post they make. So, I ask of you Ed002, 1. Is Marquinous (spelling) still a priorty as per last year? Can it possibly happen this window? 2.Morata, is there contact? or is the club looking at other "preferred" options? Mikel, Oscar by my readings will be happily moved on, who are the preferred relpacements? I don't hold you to ransom on this as today is today, tomorrow maybe different! Sorry for the "tirade" Ed002, but I miss the old site where your opions and info were gospel.

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{Ed002's Note - Things do change Pete. However, (1) PSG had no intention of selling Marquinhos last summer and have agreed a new contract with him - regardless of interest from Barcelona, Bayern Munich and Chelsea. However, the player is continuing to have a difficult time with no regular pattern to his game time and this has led Chelsea to put a marker in place with PSG over another discussion about the player and this has led to some further recent discussions with Chelsea and his representatives. Barcelona have a different player in mind as first choice but will look again to Marquinhos if nothing can be done there - and that situation will be clearer towards the end of June. It is unlikely we will see further interest from Bayern Munich as they have secured their primary target. Manchester City have spoken with his representatives, but again he is not first pick right now. (2) Nothing has changed with Morata - Morata remains of serious interest to Real Madrid who would like to re-sign the player (possibly for the purposes of resale or exchange) but Juventus are looking for a way to keep him unless a replacement is found - Berardi being one possibility and Batshuayi another. There is also interest in him from Chelsea and from Dortmund - who may just be open to a deal involving Aubameyang if Real Madrid push their interest further. Morata would be open to staying in Turin but Juventus would need to discuss the buy back clause with Real Madrid and extend it. (3) John Obi Mikel will possibly be available in the summer, it might depend on the new manager and there is certainly no decision at this time. Previous interest from Al Ain, Monaco, Inter, Napoli and Real Madrid has likely gone. Interest in Obi from Shanghai SIPG may not be welcomed by the player. (4) Chelsea are willing to sacrifice Oscar in the summer with Juventus known to still be keen on the player. PSG have enquired on several occasions, as have Real Madrid, but that interest has all gone. Juventus is constrained from buying non-EU players unless they can make space in their quota. A move to China has been mooted but the player has no interest. (5) There will be changes in midfield but right now the players the club has been interested in are "difficult" buys (like Pogba) or have unacceptable demands (like Pjanic).}

07 Jun 2016 13:44:06
What's the hold up with Pogba. Is it the player demands or the fee with Juventus? Or that he just doesn't want to join?

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07 Jun 2016 13:32:55
Great post Kiwi Pete and a very interesting reply Ed002.

Ed002 you often mention that Chelsea 'will not be held to ransom' when negotiating for players. Can I just ask, does the football board at Chelsea's approach differ to that of other clubs in that respect? Do they have more defined red lines that they set out and won't cross for example?

You mentioned a while ago that you might be able to shed some light on how the transfer process really works at Chelsea. If you ever have the time would this be possible as it would be incredibly interesting to know the reality.

As an aside, thanks for all the time you give and the valuable insight and information.

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{Ed002's Note - There is nothing unusal in clubs not wanting to pay over the odds for players.}

07 Jun 2016 13:44:06
What's the hold up with Pogba. Is it the player demands or the fee with Juventus? Or that he just doesn't want to join?

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{Ed002's Note - There is no "hold up". I have no idea what goes on in your head.}

07 Jun 2016 17:09:08
I don't think Chelsea would be pushing this hard for pogba if they thought the player would not be interested in the move. I understand it's a hard deal to make especially as we now have no champions league but maybe Chelsea are willing to pay what juventus want but juve are still trying for replacements like pjanic for example. For pogba to further his career he needs a move to England or Spain as Italian football offers nothing anymore especially financial. conte could be a deciding factor, here's hoping ;)

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07 Jun 2016 18:01:21
Chelsea now run a tight ship as others go out and spend what it takes! Like we used to do! But now we like Sam dingle counting his loose change to see if he got enough for a pint in the woolpack.

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07 Jun 2016 21:01:47
Let's be honest pinky, Chelsea are far from counting loose change. We as fans have been spoilt since Roman took over. Go back 20 years and I would not of believed we could compete at the highest level, let alone win a champions league and euro league cup. We could challenge next season without any new signings, but I'm sure a few will join and we will be back up there. The Windows not even open yet so Roman won't like what he seen last season just as much as us fans.

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08 Jun 2016 04:19:50
Nwblue, why do you and a few fellow posters keep repeating this rubbish about us competing next season without any new signings. How? We finish 10 on a the table with Lester City on top and all the other big clubs will get better. Our problems cannot be solved with tactics, we need to overhaul or defence.

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08 Jun 2016 07:14:50
We have a good squad, yes it can be better, but we can still compete. This is real life, not a computer game. Chelsea will not be going and spending £200m. I think no euro football next season could be a blessing but it's highly important that a team like Chelsea get straight back into champions league so would top four be a realistic target, I think it would.

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09 Jun 2016 07:13:54
Thanks for the reply Ed 002, really do appreciate it.

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07 Jun 2016 09:36:54
Hi, United fan here in peace, I was wondering genuinely how you feel seeing Jose as United manager? It still seems surreal to me atm. Do you think he will bring success back to us or implode again? Cheers guys.

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07 Jun 2016 09:46:33
Short term will certainly be successful Welsh, no idea about long term cause no precedent! But will alienate some players certainly regardless of fan status and your press officers are going to have a nightmare, not only with him but also Zlatan's ego!
Always welcome mate.

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07 Jun 2016 09:51:36
Welsh,

Jose will totally ruin you.

Sell the players he doesn't like, alienate the youth players, sack the Physio, tap up players, have a massive 'ego' fight with Zlatan, sleep with DDG's wife, try to gouge out Ronald Koeman's eyes on the touchline and sell the image rights of Man Utd.

Good luck mate :-)

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07 Jun 2016 09:56:09
At first I thought it sucked that he'd manage you. However, it didn't work out with us and I'm very excited about Conte coming in after the Euros. So now I'm starting to be indifferent about it.
I think you'll achieve great success with Mourinho at the helm and the money your club can spend. Title favourites for next season in my book.

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07 Jun 2016 09:58:56
Cheers CFC and as ever Dags lol seems Jose has a lot to do to change the perception he is a successful yet ultimately destructive manager. I'm just going to look forward to the ride ha. Well that's one way of ensuring DDG doesn't go to Real Madrid ha.

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07 Jun 2016 10:22:51
Thanks Jackson, yeah I believe just my Jose coming in he will galvanise the current squad, add in a few top players and we can compete for the prem next season.
It will be interesting to see how Conte sets you guys up formation wise and of course who he brings in, going to be an interesting summer of activity I think.

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{Ed002's Note - It is not really about who "he" brings in WRD. It doesn't work quite like that.}

07 Jun 2016 11:46:07
Ah ok Ed, how does it work at Chelsea if you don't mind my asking? I know it's not my club but interesting nonetheless, guess it's different at every club.

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{Ed002's Note - I have explained before - I really have no interest in going through teh same things over and over.}

07 Jun 2016 11:53:10
I was gutted when the news first broke and I think he'll win you some silverware although not the champions league and most likely not the league. I can't see him staying very long as always. I'm very much looking forward to seeing pep vs Jose in the Manchester derbies too even as a Chelsea fan.

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07 Jun 2016 13:38:44
I think Jose is an exceptional manager and what with his talent and the financial might of Man Utd, there is no way he won't be successful. I think once Guardiola went to City, Jose was the only choice for United. I think in a two team city he was the only manager who could go toe to toe with Guardiola.

Saying that, I am very excited about Mr Conte arriving at Chelsea. I think he is top class and we'll hopefully have a great deal of sustained success together.

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07 Jun 2016 18:50:47
Jose and Utd are a match made in heaven. Utd are desperate to get the fergie days back and I'm sure Jose wants his big ego back after a disaster off a season on and off the field. Woodward and co have the financial muscle to pay silly money and silly wages to whoever Jose desires.

I'm not too sure on the glory years returning as its a more even playing field now in footballing terms throughout the premiership but I'm sure trophys await Jose at old Trafford. The only concern would be in three years time when he probably looks for a new challenge, maybe even the Portugal job, then your back to square one.

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07 Jun 2016 12:39:07
Ok ok Edinho I as only asking as was mid convo ha, ill use the search function. Rvd yeah it'll be interesting to see the touch line as much as the game ha.

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08 Jun 2016 03:56:58
Personally I would agree with others in terms of this being uncharted territory. For seemingly his entire career it was mentioned that Jose had eyes for the Man U position and since I was a Chelsea fan I wouldn't have it but the series of events that have unfolded have shown me to be ignorant. That being said we will truly see how much he values working at your club because largely his values and the values of the club don't line up. He will achieve results, period, which is the most important aspect at any club. Beyond that he has never gone out of his way to integrate youth at any club. He also places vastly more importance on the result than the aesthetics of the tactics (think tony pulis on a much grander scale) which also will grind on a fan base that demands both. Saying all of this Jose can completely redefine himself as a manager and ease to the clubs traditions but he's been incredibly successful for many years now which doesn't make the change seem likely.

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