Chelsea Banter Archive August 07 2018

 

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07 Aug 2018 22:18:23
For all of the nonsense and teasing he has faced, well done Rob Green tonight. Obviously in for quota reasons, but if he is willing to knuckle down and pitch in behind the scenes like Eduardo did, then fair play.

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08 Aug 2018 10:49:09
Who would thumbs down that.

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07 Aug 2018 21:55:46
if I was a betting man I would be taking Huddersfield on Saturday we look so poor and I've heard the oh it's pre season rubbish a million times can't score any goals and teams like Liverpool are winning by 5 goals shocking.

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07 Aug 2018 22:00:45
What an embarrassing post. You are not a Chelsea fan, you are a troll and your other posts say as much.

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07 Aug 2018 22:12:43
What planet are you on
New manager new system new players
Do you think we go from the most ultra defensive team ever to free flowing attacking football in 2 weeks get a grip
I watched last 30 mins and on occasion we played some lovely stuff yes no goal but the fundamentals were good
Defended well pressed well high up pitch some of the passing and movement was 100 times better than last year none of this passing around 18 yard line for an hour
Clear and decisive passing
If you expect Harlem Globetrotters after a couple of weeks then watch them on YouTube
I think the club has done brilliantly last few weeks first time a forward thinking attacking manager our targets are positive and some youngsters coming through
Have faith be patient and we could have some brilliant entertaining footy coming our way something we haven't had in a long time
Yes we won a couple of trophies with Conte but by God it was boring to watch let's do it in style
Ktbffh.

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07 Aug 2018 22:15:56
I’ll get crusified for being negative but it’s so worrying how much we lack goals, and that spark in front of goal, hazar dnot UK to scratch or even close yet, or team to Sarri, Willian looked his old poor self, fekir Pulisic bailey, fekir ready now other two for future but it has to be priority now our GK situation is seemingly close.

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07 Aug 2018 22:28:51
Agree with the above posts. It doesn’t mean your not a fan if your concerned about how we are not creating enough clear chances. We again are in transition with the new manager and the late start due to World Cup so you can understand to a point. Napoli played a really fast flowing football and I’m confident sarri can get us to that point but I’m not confident we have enough pace throughout the team. At the moment the team seems a little split, the defence at times press but the midfield don’t leaving huge gaps for the cross field ball over the top. Their just seems to be a lot of space in midfield for the opposition but again the managers way of playing will take time. After all the years of sacking managers we need to back sarri as fans and as a club in transfer market as I’m sure not only us fans but the players will love the football sarri is trying to get us playing. There will probably be huge defeats and shock games throughout the transition but we have to back the players and finally trust the manager.

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07 Aug 2018 22:39:01
Try a darkened room Matt. It’s what being a Chelsea supporter is all about.
Moments of joy but more frustration and anxiety!

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07 Aug 2018 22:39:14
William has been one of our best players last 3 years.

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07 Aug 2018 22:56:02
well what you call a troll is me being a realist mate we are still miles behind and the club are unwilling to strengthen the moment we got sarri my first thought was we need new rb and lb but nothing even close for either position we will be found out time and time again this year and the striker situation is embaressing we clearly need a new striker to compete at top level but as I have feared for quite some time we don't look like a club wanting to be the top dogs anymore like city just happy with top 4 if we can get it.

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07 Aug 2018 22:57:54
Loko haha Willian had an okay season and it was only highlighted as we finished 10th and everyone was so poor, he got around 12 goals and 7 assists AND THAT WAS IN ALL COMPS. and that was his best season, what planet are you on to think Willian has been our best player for last 3 years, hazard easily best 2/ 3 years kante constantly brilliant last 2, costa got us over the line with those vital 1-0 goals under conte, Azpilicueta was another stand out in that distaster Mourinho season he done well when other were terrible. Willian one of our best 😂😂 I think Willian can perform a lot better under Sarri than conte. but that’s because one plays attacking football and other doesn’t, I’m sure Azpilicueta got more assists than him last season 😂 playing CB.

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08 Aug 2018 00:19:57
Careful Matt Martin don’t tell loco in Bakayoko that he won’t be happy 😂 Willian isn’t good enough if we want to improve full stop.

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08 Aug 2018 07:50:41
All the above posts are borne out of frustration which most of us must be feeling. Whether we like it or not and regardless of what Sarri wants the team to do, it is not good enough in any permutation to win the EPL. We are seen are a major club and here we are with 48 hours to go having signed a 38 year old back-up goalkeeper and putting Jorghino to the side as he wanted to come with Sarri, and that is it, not impressive for a club with big aspirations. Regardless of who we 'might' sign by the end, a couple of days before the season starts is unfair on all involved. LondonBlue90 pointed out yesterday that our transfer business over the last three years has been woeful.

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08 Aug 2018 07:54:32
We will have all the ball against Huddersfield with this new system it just depends whether we can use it well. An early goal and I think we will cruise to victory. The longer it goes without one and I think we’re in trouble especially given Sarri has said Saturday is too soon for the World Cup players.

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08 Aug 2018 10:44:37
So William isn't good enough for Chelsea haha heard it all so Brazilian international that both Barcelona and man utd wanted 👍.

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08 Aug 2018 12:07:09
So by that logic European Portuguese and Barcelona player homes is also good enough. Willian got time for Brazil when Costa was injured and got taken off at half time, he is good, not great and by far nowhere near our best in last 3 years,

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08 Aug 2018 12:36:44
Some posters are so dogmatic.

Just try and present your views with passion but respect!

My guess is NO supporter of ANY team thinks that ALL the players at his or her club are world class.

If your very lucky you might have 2-4 top players with the remainder just class, average or workmanlike.

It’s all about a team and a team blend.

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08 Aug 2018 13:46:57
Thank you tomB bit of adult conversation for a change
Matt I didn't say he was our best player I said one of our best players
I don't treat our transfer policy like FIFA ultimate team I'm more realistic could we improve in every area probably but we can't buy the best in the world in every position
So I support the players we have and get behind the team even real Madrid who won cl 3 times had weaknesses in there team goalie striker and left back.

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07 Aug 2018 21:55:25
Bakyoko and drinkwater are out there depth, hopefully Milan take Baky and Kovacic comes in and drinkwater is sold and used for some goals somewhere, we are just not creating enough or scoring. got to be a concern for Sarri surely.

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08 Aug 2018 13:44:24
We’ve had players leave that have come back to haunt us.

Bakayoko could well be another one!

If he goes out on loan I hope we do NOT include an option for a team to buy him!

Drinkwater is an ok player, who may well come good at anther club like he did at Leicester!

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07 Aug 2018 21:43:35
very disappointed that piazon has come on instead of odi as piazon will certainly be nowhere near the team.

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07 Aug 2018 21:58:46
The negativity on here is killing me piazon was good I always wanted him to come good and hopefully will have a good season.

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07 Aug 2018 22:40:28
Piazon has been ok pre-season but will probably go on loan.

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07 Aug 2018 20:47:05
Well 36 mins in and some things blatantly obvious.
Bakayoko just not good enough. Drinkwater trying hard but no more than a squad player.
Zappa cannot defend no awareness who’s around him. RLC same old same old good and has ability just not involved enough.
Rest doing ok. Abraham can’t only do something if they give him the bal.
We are just not moving it quick enough.

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07 Aug 2018 21:10:52
My focus has been on Bayakoko who I slated last year and the poor guy is either thinking about the loan move or is just not cut out to play football, terrible. Loftus-Cheek, a player with everything but just cannot stop ambling around, wasted talent. Overall the others are doing OK and we may have a nice little GK up our sleeve with Bulka.

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07 Aug 2018 19:56:26
Hope you enjoy tonight's game Ed002. From the information you've given us, plus the general contempt for Chelsea fans in the last few years, I can only conclude one thing - you must be Eva Caneiro!
All jokes aside, hope it is a good one. If you can negotiate Fekir for us, would be helpful as well!

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07 Aug 2018 10:30:43
Ed's, can you give us any updates whatsoever with just 2 days of the window remaining? Cheers!

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07 Aug 2018 19:31:37
Kepa and kovacic looks likely to be completed tomorrow.

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07 Aug 2018 19:58:56
wel take them 2 with open arms if we get rid of drinkwater and bakayoko im sure that would free up money of squad spaces.

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07 Aug 2018 19:18:34
You have to hand it to Sarri, he's giving everyone a chance to prove themselves with tonight's line-up.

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07 Aug 2018 21:41:43
C1955 that is bordering on glass full my friend! Great to see it😁.

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07 Aug 2018 18:31:09
KEPA ARRIZABALAGA is coming to Chelsea. Farewell to Courtois in his future ambitions.

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07 Aug 2018 19:27:16
It’s all going off today. Bakayoko going ac Milan on loan. Hopefully he improves at Milan.

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07 Aug 2018 19:28:07
to be honest I can understand tibo wanting to leave to see his children more his life is not all football somtimes you have to remember that but his actions have been very unprofessional hazard also wanted to leave but returns as normal like a good professional should.

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07 Aug 2018 19:35:30
If my kids lived in a different country I would move heaven and earth to be closer to them. Don’t think he needed to go AWOL Chelsea rarely stand in players way that don’t want to play for us. If they is one thing more important than football it’s family!

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07 Aug 2018 18:47:36
In advanced talks to sign the kepa for 71m. If this goes through it’s really shocked me I thought we would go for 30m rated Butland. This would be a massive statement from the club.

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07 Aug 2018 18:56:01
Let's be honest Butland was probably the one everyone thought that would arrive. Tbh he isn't chelsea quality and i've said that before.

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07 Aug 2018 19:17:52
The club has to learn from signing players that isn't good enough.

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07 Aug 2018 17:18:26
I think kepa is a smart choice as a replacement for TC.

Kovacic might turn out to be a very good player but I think a lot will depend on how sarri can use him. I don't think any manager has been able to bring out his full potential out of him. With him we will have Jorginho, Kante, Bakayoko, Kovacic, RLC, Barkley, farbregas and Drinkwater for the three spots in our midfield. I am sure that Drinkwater will leave and one of Fabregas, Bakayoko or RLC. I would prefer if Fabregas left out of those.

Now to the reports that we might sign fekir. I think he is a Brilliant little player but I am not sure where he will play. Our midfield is already crowded if we sign kovacic. Only way it can happen is if we sign him to play as a striker or if he replaces Willian.

What do you guys think? And ED001 have you seen kepa or kovacic to tell us if they are any good?

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{Ed001's Note - I have seen a little of Kepa and he looked very good. I am told he is much better than that though and that I need to watch a lot more of him. As for Kovacic, I have seen a lot of him over the years as we have a poster on the Liverpool site who is obsessed by him. Very good player, but he doesn't get much game time at Madrid, so he has not progressed as he should. He is a bit like Milinkovic-Savic in style of play.}

07 Aug 2018 17:47:42
Thanks, really appreciate the response. Your reply fills me with hope. Today might change our window from being shambolic one to a pretty good one. And if we get a Fekir, A Center back and a left back it will be amazing but We shouldn't get greedy.

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{Ed001's Note - you have Sarri anyway, he would have got more out of the same team than Conte did, imo. So you were going forward anyway.}

07 Aug 2018 17:59:03
On the topic of Sari, I think you said when we hired Antonio Conte that he is someone who can steady the ship after mourinho but he is not the person to take us to the next level (A Long long time reader) and I think you said after he has steadied the ship for a while we will need someone else to take us forward. Do you think Sarri can be that person to take us to that elite level? (If you didn't say, my apologies in advance as it was a long time ago)

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{Ed001's Note - yes, well remembered mate. It did look after his first season I was wrong about Conte! I do think Sarri is a next level in terms of the football. He is a coach who will coach the players he is given and improve them. He will also play the style of play that gets fans off their seats in excitement.}

07 Aug 2018 15:24:07
Be happy with Kovacic very good player. But we still have a major problem. We don't have goals from midfield? Where will the goals come from this year? Hazard will be heavily relied on again. And I'm hearing Michy May be going on loan. He should be first choice.

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07 Aug 2018 15:46:21
Yes Michy surely has more confidence than Morata right now. Three strikers anyway surely not overloading given UEFA etc schedule. Giroud fine for those moments/ games when you need more classic holding-up the ball striker.

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07 Aug 2018 19:54:04
he's better than drinkwater that's for sure. i'd be happier if we said we'd swap for courtois, done deal permanent.

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07 Aug 2018 14:14:02
Nice to hear Hazard speaking highly of RLC and calling him to stay with us and even saying "we". Now that's a real professional and someone who clearly loves the club, whether or not he wants his dream move. Take note Tbo, that's how to act like a professional. Now get out of our club.

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07 Aug 2018 15:34:38
Hope we give Hazard the captaincy.

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07 Aug 2018 15:48:07
NIce to hear, what with that and the Kovacic loan possibility/ probability am feeling a bit more cheerful. Goalkeeper question/ problem remains though.

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07 Aug 2018 15:51:31
Me too mate. He thrived with that role for Belgium in the World Cup and I think he would take a lot of responsibility if we were to give it. I think if he stays past next summer he'll go on to be my favourite player of all time. I love the guy.

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07 Aug 2018 12:29:07
I actually hate courtious now, disrespectful I will be glad when he leaves I don't rate him that much get beat at his near post too often and isn't as authoritative in his area as some keepers.

All in all good riddance.

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07 Aug 2018 13:27:08
I never liked him. He is too awkward with his feet. I prefer goalkeepers who can do both. I am glad he is going provided we replace him with one of Butland, oblak, kepa.

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07 Aug 2018 14:06:23
Courtois was always disrespectful. That was a great mistake to let Cech go and keep Courtois.

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07 Aug 2018 11:33:44
Our last 29 signings ladies and gentlemen:
Pato, Pedro, Amelia, Baba, Begovic, Kenedy, Falcao, Hector, Miazga, Nathan, Djiloboji, Pantic, Cuadrado, Kante, Luiz, Alonso, Batshuayi, Eduardo, Bakayoko, Zappacosta, Drinkwater, Rudiger, Morata, Caballero, Barkley, Giroud, Emerson, Jorginho, Green.

How many of those players have ever been good enough to play for Chelsea when we signed them? If you ask me, 3. Kante, Rudiger and Jorginho (although may be too early to tell) . Likes of Alonso, Luiz and Pedro all pushed way above their weight during our title winning season with Conte and are in no way good enough to play for us anymore. Batshuayi and Barkley could do well under Sarri but it's too early to tell.

The rest? All squad fillers or players who failed to perform. Not to mention a fair few of those players are also panic buys. Our transfer business in the last 3 seasons has been abysmal. And i truly fear for Sarri if he is going to have to do his best with these players in changing our style of football. Bad players simply can't play good football.

We still have Hazard and Kante to come back into the team and i know they'll help to a degree, but there are too many areas in this team that needs addressing and they haven't been. I obviously expect a transitional period like Pep did at City, but the difference with them is they done their business quickly, addressed the areas that needed improving and actually brought in top level players for his system.

The fact that it was a world cup year may not have helped, and taking nearly 2 months to get Sarri himself didn't either, but it seemed clear the players that needed to be moved on since last year and the areas that needed improving yet nothing has been done.

I feel things may get worse before they get better, i just hope if it does get worse, Sarri is given time and support by the fans and realise not only does he need time, but a big part of the blame shouldn't be directed at him. Lastly i truely hope the rumour about a section of our fans chanting Antonio towards the end of the game today isn't true. It seems there are a section of our fans who want Sarri to fail just to try and prove the point that we shouldn't have sacked Conte which is disgraceful.

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07 Aug 2018 13:32:46
you can't move on players who don't want to leave or clubs don't want or can't afford
30 years ago all those players were good enough football goes in cycles and at the moment its not our cycle look at united and the crap they have signed in the last few years
arsenal my god there worse tottenham have a good team but there squad is shocking if kane gets injured there a middle of the league team
liverpool have strenghed yes after 10 years of rubbish
city are by far and away the best squad and funnily enough the richest.

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07 Aug 2018 13:56:36
LondonBlues90: When you look at that list, whether the fans liked Mourinho or Conte or not, both had every reason to blow their top at the transfer policy they were saddled with.

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07 Aug 2018 10:17:46
Chelsea fans,

here is my prediction
butland
kovacic
zaha

I think 2 of 3 will come through.

now, which of these 3 would you ideally keep (assuming no replacements come in)

tammy Abraham
morata
giroud
batsuyai

I find it to be a good and bad predicament.
not one of these strikers, for me, is very alike to another however not one of them is prolific. yet.
I think ideally id send tammy to Newcastle or palace (zaha deal)

on kovacic, I just wonder if the courtois deal will be sweetened with this, real won't want bad feelings with Chelsea, its likely they return for hazard next year.

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07 Aug 2018 14:13:53
Mateo Kovačić is an excellent player. There is just one problem. He wasn't regular starter at Real Madrid and he wasn't starter for Croatia (not the first 11 choice) .
Chelsea has Fabregas, Barkley, RLC and Drinkwater fighting for 2 CM positions. If we sign Kovačić who will leave? Also Kante, Jorginho and Bakayoko will be fighting for 1 position. Who is about to leave?

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07 Aug 2018 16:12:23
we will play with 3 cm this year.

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07 Aug 2018 16:25:58
By bringing in kovacic we are finally looking for players like can play in the formation/ way the manager wants. Not only does he have a good engine like Kante but he’s also very good on the ball. Kante and kovacic either side of Jorginho will then benefit Jorginho to play his game.

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07 Aug 2018 09:15:08
whats everyones early thoughts on Ross Barkley? i am an everton fan a d was made up when he left as he slowed every counter attack down by spinning on the spot with the ball then his final ball was 9 times out of 10 a pass to an opposing player. do u think he has a future at Chelsea or is he going to end up at West ham or the likes.

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07 Aug 2018 09:33:52
Not 100% sure on him, think if he works hard he will make it. But I'm starting to question his work ethic and his fitness. On a different note, you say West Ham and the likes. Everton and West Ham are on the same level lol.

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07 Aug 2018 10:13:46
LOVE THAT SAIM, I once had a soft spot for everton but really really hate them now. 8/ 10 fans think they are a top 4 club and I wasn't a fan of them punting big sam! however, will be interesting to see how both them and west ham get on. a bottom half finish is surely failure after their investments. back to barkley, if he knuckles down and invests in sari's philosophy I believe he could be the goal scoring midfielder we are looking for. (I just wonder if Oscar would have done the job perfectly, I wonder if he would ever return)

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07 Aug 2018 10:14:04
Regardless of what anyone thinks he was only bought in because he was £15m. This is the way the club is doing business lately. If it doesn’t work out for him at Chelsea I’m sure the club would still get a higher transfer fee for him. Would we have gone in for him if he had 3 years left on his contract. I highly doubt it.

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07 Aug 2018 14:03:08
Is that the way to do business when you have just won the EPL, he was just £15m. I agree 'someone' thought it worth a punt but based on what? He had flattered to deceive all his career and was blighted with injury which clearly means Conte would not know a thing about him when that 'someone' at the club made the decision. From what I have seen so far he is another waste of money.

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07 Aug 2018 08:41:36
How long left of window. we need a goalkeeper, some energy and goals from midfield and a winger. and lose drinkwater Bakyoko Courtois Zappa.

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07 Aug 2018 09:06:17
I think there are only just over two more days - think it closes on Thursday afternoon - so don't think we can expect many if any incomings though we need them, Perhaps a GK if TC leaves. We do need more upfront and in terms of energy and skill in midfield to aid Kante and Jorginho. Only thing is that Sarri may require more time properly to assess the squad, and will hope that this happens and we are make far more positive progress inn reshaping team in next few window (ie like Klopp, Guardiola did -- hope we have same funds available) .

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07 Aug 2018 06:27:28
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 7th August 2018

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