Chelsea Banter Archive May 05 2015

 

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05 May 2015 20:12:56
It is amazing what are Tevez and Moratta doing to Varane and Pepe.
TBH Varane looks like Garry Cahill.

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05 May 2015 22:57:27
Deluded

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06 May 2015 12:35:16
Did you watched the at all?

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06 May 2015 13:20:17
One game?!? Don't base a player on one game he's been superb & is the best young CB in world football & even the best have bad days just as Ramos did also

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06 May 2015 19:47:52
Sorry but I am watching Real Madrid regularly you are simply exaggerating about Varane.He is getting more playing time lately and I sincerely doubt that Real will sell him to Chelsea.

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05 May 2015 18:37:33
I think Oscar missing Cops America can prove as a blessing in disguise for us because the lad needs rest after playing in every summer for past 2-3 years.

The rest will surely help him to keep up his consistency throughout the season which he has failed to do in last 2 seasons.

PS - all that only if he stays, would love him to stay for one more season

let the banter begin! :p

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05 May 2015 18:50:49
Most probably already know how I feel about Oscar, but here I go again :-P
He just has to stay, plain and simple. Super talented, only 23 and already bossing games when he's on form. He's still inconsistent, I'll give you that, but that will get better as he gains experience and gets older.
Put Oscar in the Italian League for example and I think he'd get amazing stats there and if he wasn't ours everyone would be raving about him and posting that Chelsea have to buy Oscar because he's the next big thing. He'd probably be mentioned in the same breath as Pogba if he was playing at Juventus (a team that easily dominates domestically in a weak league).
The club have to keep him. We all saw what happens when he's on form during the first half of the season. Oscar is the one that makes the team click, not Fabregas IMO.

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05 May 2015 19:04:54
Really have to disagree with your last sentence. Fabregas is the best Chelsea player.
About Oscar he has to work on his physical ability. He must become stronger and improve his stamina, with his given skills he could become new Fabregas.

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05 May 2015 20:39:13
Any of u agree Oscar has been piss poor this year. who do you guys think we need to complete the team to the next level and challenge in cl next year . any of you expect ake rlc kalas or solanke make the step up next year. what about zouma he's going to be a monster for years to come dunno how he didn't take cahills position in the team although Cahill had been very good after the bad patch he had

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{Ed018's Note - i thought Oscar played well the first half of the season but certainly dropped off the second half}

05 May 2015 21:22:00
He was ok he needs to really up his game big time he has been absolutely anonymous since Christmas we can't afford to have a number ten in terrible form the number 10 should be making the team click I really don't see what he has to offer he hasn't much pace he can't tackle he never scores and rarely sets the tempo of a game he has shown signs with a good goal here or there or the rare free kick other than that he's been the biggest disappointment since Torres considering we got rid of mata for him although I don't blame Oscar nor do I believe that's the real reason but still

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05 May 2015 21:38:11
Well antibot, I didn't mean to imply that Oscar is the best Chelsea player. But I do believe that he makes us tick offensively. Our best player is Hazard IMO, not Fabregas though.

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05 May 2015 22:29:48
Jackson no disrespect but what have you been watching the last 2 years Oscar has rarely made us tick how many assists and goals does he have for a player that's suppose to tick the team he's so overrated I will never get over selling mata to keep him he's useless I simply don't rate him simply because he hasn't shown me any reason to be rated I no u are entitled to your opinion as much as me and I'm not hear to argue with you pal but Jesus I really would like to no where you get your optimism from with Oscar . what u think of cuadrado? I no we have no right to judge as we don't with Salah because he hasn't had much playing time but he doesn't even look like a footballer so far I really hope he doesn't turn out to be another flop but hey it' seems all the flops or average players over the last few years have bagged us tidy profits de bruyne Schurlle Bertrand although I rate him we made good money David Luiz I love the guy but he is not even related to a defender sorry for the long post guys

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05 May 2015 23:45:07
Agree with Jackson. We played magnificent when oscar was in from as Diego scored for fun, and Fabregas assisted for fun.

Now that oscar is out of the team/poor form , we've had to change our style and Fabregas hasn't been good at all.

That is where Jackson is coming from.

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06 May 2015 05:43:20
Just watch him closely next time he plays. He pops up all over the field to provide passing options to guys like Fabregas and Hazard. That way there can be some quick one-twos or quick passes around the box. Remember that Fabregas goal against QPR? That's what Oscar does so well IMO. Hazard has the ball on the wing and isn't in a very dangerous position. Well guess who provides a passing option for Hazard? Yes, it's Oscar. And that's what he does brilliantly IMO. He links the midfield and the attack and he's the one that provides quick interplay in the attacking third. He also takes up smart positions and makes smart attacking runs, in a way that our other attacking midfielders don't (perhaps Cuadrado but he hasn't gotten enough time on the pitch).
His tackling is pretty good and his pressing is just terrific! He's very intelligent in his defensive work.

Look, I probably won't convince you and that's okay. But I love Oscar and I think he's special. I'd be absolutely gutted to see him leave, more so than Luiz and even Mata.

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06 May 2015 07:05:11
Out of the form the only reason we're out of form is because fabregas has dried up and Costa has missed so much time on the pitch and I think a lack of rotation aswell let's hope Oscar comes along a bit next year I won't be getting my hopes up anyway but hey look at bale last night 100 million he won one ball all night that's pathetic

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06 May 2015 08:52:08
Dude that's so harsh on Oscar, he is a really decent player in fact on early season form I'd say he's more than decent, let's remember that our system doesn't always play to these young players strengths, I feel if we went all in most games Oscar would have at least done a bit more. For me I hope he stays especially if we get Koke, there will be no need to necessarily Sell Oscar, plus he is still so young left his home at a young age and has been playing first team football in a massive club, in one of the most difficult leagues in the world in the past three season in between representing his country and putting stellar performances.

Let's all step back and appreciate some of these guys a bit.

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06 May 2015 09:24:14
I dunno I wasn't gutted when luiz left just the fact that he was a complete liability in defence all though I love the guy he's a great character and as bad as his defending was he always wears his heart on his sleeve . what you guys make of morata last night I
He played about 15 times last season and he doesn't celebrate that's pathetic I can understand why lampard wouldn't celebrate against Chelsea or Henry against arsenal or whatever but come on like the guy made mostly only sub appearances maybe he's looking for a move back der in a few years which is a possibility he's a great talent

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06 May 2015 09:47:28
Magichandshurley are you welshcarefree/welshchels? Lol

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06 May 2015 10:20:38
I believe Terry explained what happened.

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06 May 2015 12:38:59
I didn't say he is the best only that Oscar is talented and he might improve significantly.

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06 May 2015 12:41:22
Hahaha Situation, I was thinking the same thing, just wasn't going to bring it up.

Welsh it's good you came back though you bring some good banter. :)

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06 May 2015 13:17:58
Ah no I'm not the Welsh Chelsea fella her on about just a fan voicing my opinions I don't agree with anyone about Oscar I just personally think he's not good enough I hope he proves me wrong he seems like a nice character an all that

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06 May 2015 13:21:23
It's all a laugh no harm done :) a few must of thought the same lol

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06 May 2015 13:35:50
Oh lord.

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06 May 2015 14:42:26
I think him missing the games for Brazil will give him a well earned rest he's been non stop for like 2/3 years so I think he will be fresh for next season! Really want koke to sign

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05 May 2015 08:58:50
I have to admit that I fully agree with Garry Neville.

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05 May 2015 10:01:39
It's a bit hard to see it happening but if we could get Bale move Willian to the number 10 role we could have a crazy first 11 that could square up to Barca, Bayern and Madrid. It might mean Ramires and Oscar could leave but no denying we would have Hazard and Bale two top players in our team, we would be great but obviously hard seeing it happen.

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05 May 2015 12:08:59
Yes bale hazard and Costa would be up there with the barca front three.

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05 May 2015 12:47:00
I believe that we will manage to sign Koke. Real Madrid has set the price for Bale and it's 100m€ which is around 71-72m£.After winning PL we have earned extra 24m£ and before that our possible transfer kitty was roughly 73-76m£.So now we have 100m£ to spend without selling anyone. If we are aware that Mikel will be sold plus one of our goalkeepers, plus we can cash in on Salah,Marin,MVG and some other players. Even without selling Oscar, Willian (or hopefully Cuadrado) and Ramires (hopefully we will not sell him) we can count on at least 160m£ transfer kitty.
So we can afford Bale and Koke.

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05 May 2015 14:39:41
Bale would be a tremendous acquisition, no doubt about it! But I can't see the club splashing that much money on 1 player, I just can't see it happening. That's not the way the club have gone about their business since the Torres transfer.
If we want a left footed player for the right wing then the club shouldn't look any further than Traore. He's played a lot as a striker for Vitesse this season, and that proves that he's got an eye for goal. I still think his best position is the right wing, where he can take players on because he's got sublime technique and a good burst of speed. I truly believe Traore could already play in the first team, he's that good and his game is really mature IMO. I'd love to see it happen and I hope Mourinho wasn't kidding when he said Traore would've stayed with the first team if he got a work permit sorted.
I don't think attacking midfielders/wingers should be a priority this summer. A centre back, central midfielder and a back up striker if Remy leaves are top of my list.

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05 May 2015 16:12:13
Hello everybody,

I don't want to make to discuss a little about what we need and the current situation of Chelsea squad. Its all my own opinion - I think there will be mistakes ( alot) Hope u guys could discuss with me and share your view - opinion or fix my wrong thinking too. My appreciation.


1. A LB or RB (depend on the situation of Ivanonic/Luis) - not urgent now.
2. A CB - to replace Terry if necessary ( and maybe Zouma still your - haven't gain enough credit from Mourinho - for Cahill sometimes when he becomes shaky too)
3. A LW - we are too dependent on Hazard now. Mostly Right side attacking - by using Hazard's dribbling and accelerating. And the other teams know him more well next season - in the last 2 match he also struggling with their special attention. ( I think its quite urgent demand)
4. A CM someone to share the midfield with Matic, making a steel wall before our CBs - cause F4 is not so suitable for this kind of position - he is way better in making assits but he usually creating spaces and Matic couldn't cover all ( example is Tottenham match)
5. A Striker - Costa is good - Remy is good, however, they are both injury prone. I felt so frustrated about it. Remember how Costa had to struggle with his knee in the second half of the season - it really weighted us down and made us play defensively - when we need Remy the most - he get injured. He usually got in surprising and ridiculous injury (remember after an amazing strike in Champions League - then he got the hips injury). Then at the end of season, when he is the hope of all our fans to replace Costa - he got injured again - kind of secretly and then we had to used old Drogba.
6. A Goal keeper. Cech will go.

In my option. We really need to solve 3,4,5. A CM - A Striker - A LW for diversity in attacking - our defend line is still good and we can use our youth to back up the goalie position.

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05 May 2015 17:32:29
There is realistic possibility that we might lose Luis and get Koke. 4 solved. 3 is something we have to solve is it going to be Bale,DiMaria ( MUFC might sell him), Griezman, Traore or whoever. 5 we defiantly need a buck up striker maybe Austin is the best and cheapest option very efficient player considering where he played this season. 6 if MUFC manage to keep DeGea with new very lucrative deal 200k p.w.Real Madrid could turn to Courtois. 1 we will have to sign RB or LB. 2 isn't necessary since Ivanovic can CD especially if we sign RB or LB.
Cheers

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05 May 2015 19:13:40
I think a ton will depend on the outgoing players. I'd imagine we will need a striker, backup keeper, and a left back to replace luis (as I'm sure he wants to leave in order to get game time which is perfectly understandable). Beyond that I don't see the need to buy another winger unless we sell either willian or cuadrado (extremely unlikely with both) but I would like to see Traore given a chance. If we can get a premier player such as Varane or Pogba then the club should go for it.

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05 May 2015 22:01:39
If watched tonight's game you would understand why Real Madrid are favorite's to land Pogba.They need him much more than we do. Also, they are financially stronger than Chelsea.

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05 May 2015 08:18:01
Just won the league and now we are linked with Rickie LAMBERT! quailty piece of newspaper sh*t! Haha

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05 May 2015 12:02:37
Think Adebayor was mentioned again as well? They'll come up with literally everything :-P

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05 May 2015 05:30:36
Came across some numbers today that surprised me. This season Drogba has appeared in 39 games with 13 starts (including 27 and 7 in the league). That also tells me that there are plenty of minutes for our third striker which could be Bamford. I feel that we can no longer put credence in the notion that he wouldn't get any time as our third striker. That said if middlesborough get promoted I would definitely support him going there for another year, and if we replace Remy with a player who has a cleaner injury history that could also change things.

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05 May 2015 08:18:01
Exactly what I was saying. Costa and Remy are injury prone, and Bamford can fight Remy for 2nd choice

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05 May 2015 10:17:57
Hopefully Traore will finally get working permit, that would change things significantly.

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05 May 2015 02:04:09
Think the time has come to leave this page. It's been good posting alongside the ones who are fair and know what they're talking about but the rest are a waste of time who are to busy skipping school. Cheers for all the help and info ed.

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05 May 2015 08:19:19
So just becuase some are young that means they're poor posters and don't know about football?

Jacksons young and is probably the best poster

Get over yourself mate, you're Definetely super cesc

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05 May 2015 08:34:39
It's very funny to see that the school skippers seem to have such an effect on you Welsh. Please stop looking for attention and either continue using this for its comprehensive and valuable information, as well as communicating with other loyal fans, or just leave and go to another teams page and complain like you seem to have been doing for the passed few days. Not everyone agrees with other peoples opinions and there will always be haters. Just chill and view arguements from both sides and this site will be a lot more enjoyable, for yourself and others.

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05 May 2015 09:18:15
I'm young and I've been on here for almost 8 years and I get along with everyone, age is but a number, listen Welsh I've known you were supercesc since day one but I didn't say anything cause really I don't give a hoot and I'm sure no one else does, we all love Chelsea and come on here for that, as long as we respect the Eds and of course each other there is no reason why we can't all get along, your choice though mate it is a free world.

Ps. I nominate Jack too as poster of the season as we'll know to call it POTS. :)

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05 May 2015 09:04:28
Ed 18, could Welsh have been the famous Curt? Haha

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{Ed018's Note - hmmm, I don't think so but you never know}

05 May 2015 12:38:35
We all have our disagreements! Don't leave mate

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05 May 2015 12:43:31
8 years, Eli?! You're like the elder statesman around here then haha.
Thanks for the nominations as poster of the year, guys. I don't think I deserve it, but thanks nonetheless :)
And Welshcarefree, I don't think anyone is offensive or insulting on this site. Try not to take things too personal, it's all in good fun. Other's opinions may differ from yours and we all have to respect that.

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05 May 2015 13:22:51
8 years is incredible haha

And Jackson, ask nicely to Ed033 for a nice little sticker saying 'POTY' , I'm sure he'll get it done lol :-P

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05 May 2015 13:49:28
Haha Jack, I've been on here a while when it was just one page with random rumours flying in, obviously I didn't post regularly if at all and when I did it was without a handle.

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05 May 2015 14:42:59
I think I only discovered this page a good 2 years or so ago. One of the greatest discoveries of my life I must say :-P
And Aron, I won't ask for such a sticker mate. Don't want to remind you every day that I'm better than you haha :) joking of course, mate.
I'm definitely not the best poster on here, but I'm just glad we've got a good nucleus of posters right now. Long may it continue.

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05 May 2015 15:33:52
Great bonding session lads haha I would nominate Jackson aswel, I'm only 26 but been posting a few years now I think :/ remember this is the banter page so shouldn't be taking anything on here too seriously chaps, CHAMPIONS

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05 May 2015 23:48:16
Haha Jackson , you do crack me up.

Love you all

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