Chelsea Banter Archive April 04 2013

04 Apr 2013 23:15:32
I think Marin is utter s**t! Would prefer Benayoun playing over him! I would sell Marin in the summer and give Piazon more game time.

I honestly don't really understand everyone wanting to get rid of Marin. He hasn't really hit the ground running granted but he hasn't had much time on the pitch and was injured at the start of the campaign. And to base it on the fact that Rafa doesn't seem to think he's good enough and doesn't pick him is silly. I wouldn't be surprised if Rafa picked names out of a hat for his matchday team.
All one needs to do is search Marin's name on the site to see how excited everyone was about him at the start of the season or look at ed022's player profile to see he's definitely a quality player.

He was never good enough. And he was signed only because we would have not even had a chance for Hazard, had we not won CL and qualified for it this term. So it is what it is. He could not make it there and he's not making it here either. A bit part player at best. When you have your own talent like Piazon, de Bruyne or even Kakuta on his recent form, it is just criminal to have the likes of Marin in your first team.

JG

He is Torres on a smaller scale. Played well for a season or two in Germany- a lot of hype. Then he suffers a series of injuries and is not the same player again. We bought him as the Marin of 3 years ago.

He was bought when we didn't seem like we were going to make the Champions League but then again is Moses a Champions League player? I agree that his progress has been hampered by injuries but I fail to see how you can judge him off the back of 3/4 games. And to be fair to him, in the games he's played everyone has played s**t (Soton, Qpr to name a few) He's even scored albeit against a weak swedish team. All players take a season to settle, remember how poor players like Ramires and Luiz were when they first arrived. I for one won't judge him until he's had a fair run of games and plays s**t in a game where everyone else has played great.

He was rubbish at Werder Bremen all season long. Why on earth spend 8 million euros for someone who can't make it into Werder's starting line-up?

JG

Luiz poor when he came. Give me a break!

How many mistakes and positional errors did Luiz make when he first arrived. How many rash challenges or decisions did he make? He was still good when he arrived but certainly not at the level he's playing at now.

Rubbish at Werder Bremen all season long? He was out injured for a lot of the 2011/12 season. Making 21 apps, 13 assists and 1 goal. So whilst he didn't play as much football as he wanted due to being injured he still had an assist ratio of 0. 62 per game. Juan Mata this season has an assist ratio of 0. 57 and Hazard 0. 32. So based on those numbers we can hardly say that Marin is s**t.
And anyone who watched our pre-season tour, would have seen the quality he possesed as many people compared him to Robben and some people said he outshone Hazard on tour. Everyone's opinion on him is clouded by the fact that he's played poorly in the games he's played in so far (Which everyone played rubbish in). But he's only played 399mins of football this season for chelsea. Averaging 27mins per game. Now if you can say that he's s**t just him based on that then you're a complete id**t.

He only scored the winners against City and United in his first few games.

Pretty sure he also scored huge goals against united and city. You have to take the good with the bad.

Tk

Marin looked great on the pre-season tour, prior to getting injured. How about giving the lad a chance to show what he can do over a few full games rather than a handful of late game sub appearances. He has Mata, Hazard, Oscar and probably Moses currently ahead of him in the pecking order, so the pressure is on him to shine in the 10 minutes he's given every few weeks. Granted he hasn't looked that great when he has come on recently but I seem to remember a lot of people on this site claiming that 8m for Marin was the steal of the summer, the 'german messi' etc etc. Some people have very short memories. He's still only 22/23, give him a chance, the boy has some real quality.

04 Apr 2013 22:15:38
Good job Nino, Good job guys. creepy referee

Blueprint

04 Apr 2013 21:57:23
maybe the mask is a re-incarnate of torres' mojo. ?

He thinks he's Zorro! Nice to see him bag a couple last night, though.
Bruce

04 Apr 2013 21:05:14
Poor refereeing aside, i'm happy with that. Marin on for Benayoun and we can score a couple more!
Keep the faith, get the double!
EH17

04 Apr 2013 18:48:03
Hazard replaced by yossi, Oscar on bench, Moses and mate start too

04 Apr 2013 16:46:55
Not a day goes by without mouriniho being linked with a return to the bridge, I hope he does. Ed would you be surprised if he was not our manager opening game of next season. {Ed002's Note - Little surprises me.}

Thanks for the answer, we're you surprised when we appointed the waiter?

04 Apr 2013 15:57:02
Is the cfc match on the tv or is it a first row sports night,

Its on ESPN

04 Apr 2013 14:31:23
My team Tonight.
Cech
Cezar
JT
Luiz
Bertrand
Ake
Lamps
Moses
Mata
Hazard
Torres

Azpi and mata need a rest azpi has played two games on the run and mata looked tired last game

Cech

Ferreira Luiz terry Bertrand

Ramires Lampard

Moses hazard Marin

Torres

CfcBenWxm

My guess is that Mata looked tired as he was recovering from an illness

Cech

Ferreira
Luiz
Terry
Bertrand

Ake
Ramires
Lampard

Moses
Hazard

Torres

Rafa will put out the strongest line-up possible. Mata's tiredness in the last match could be due to him recovering from an illness. Azpi will definitely start for me as will Mata.
Cech
Azpi Luiz Terry Bertrand
Ramires Lampard
Moses/Marin Mata Hazard
Torres

04 Apr 2013 12:13:20
Ed I see you did it on the united page, so could you say who you would expect chelsea to sign this summer? {Ed002's Note - That is eaxctly the reason I won't - I cannot sensibly give a list of who I "expect" will sign.}

04 Apr 2013 12:55:58
{Ed002's Note - Another glifnard removed.}

04 Apr 2013 14:51:13
{Ed002's Note - Another jerk removed. This is fun. Great name Dick.}

Ed why the .... {Ed002's Note - Another scraping removed from the bottom of our collective boot.}

Is it safe to post here now Ed002 or will I go the same way as those above?

Puzzled {Ed002's Note - Knock yourself out Puzzled. We have had a bit of a clean out today.}

04 Apr 2013 00:38:15
4th place qualification seems to be in a quagmire. Any further slip up will be fatal. No more Jose coming, falcao coming in that case. I wish we qualify, but under present manager you ca not predict anything.

Kings xi chelsea