Chelsea Banter Archive June 03 2016

 

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03 Jun 2016 20:16:57
According to Ed on the man united page there is another English club pushing hard for Paul Pogba is that us Ed or I'd imagine if not City?

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{Ed002's Note - THis has been covered repeatedly - RTFP.}

03 Jun 2016 21:19:33
I do believe it is Chelsea but can't see it myself, our only hope is his ties with conte maybe persuading him.

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03 Jun 2016 21:47:23
All depends on Pogba and where he wants to play. Off course all serious contender's can afford him. IMO MU and MC are not the favourites to sing him. Competition comes from Spain.

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04 Jun 2016 11:06:51
Messi could go United (heavily funded by a certain sports brand we dropped) which would free up money for Barcelona to sign Pogba. Ifs, buts and maybes but that's a scenario I could see happening.

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04 Jun 2016 12:32:58
Messi will not leave Barcelona - and Pogba will either join Barcelona or stay where he is.

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03 Jun 2016 20:01:13
Just wondering if anyone who watches Italian football can give me a bit of detail about what type of player Antonio Rudiger is as I've never seen him play.

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03 Jun 2016 21:50:15
He is good enough to be regular starter for World Champions. That's says quite a lot especially considering competition in German national team.

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04 Jun 2016 08:23:04
Not when mertersluggar is as well 😂.

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04 Jun 2016 12:46:26
I'm not sure there's that much competition at the heart of the German defence - Hummels, Mertesaker, Boateng, Howedes? I wouldn't rate any of them as 'World class'. A good team but middle defensively suspect - a lot like England. I have watched Rudiger many times and I'm not greatly impressed to be honest - I would much prefer Bonucci or Koulibaly but I don't think either will be made available. I'm still hoping for John Stones or stick with Tomori and Jake Clarke-Salter as back-ups to Zouma, JT and Ivan.

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04 Jun 2016 14:35:31
Not impressed with Rudiger who was heavily relied on by his team but you're hoping for Stones, who had an awful season and couldn't get into his team on several occasions lol. And your other preference is keeping what we have at CB LOL.

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04 Jun 2016 17:36:53
Yes, Bluelab, I would buy Stones who has certainly got room for improvement but is 21 - is Hazard a crap player just because he was crap for most of last season? And we won the Prem with Ivan, Cahill, Terry and Aspi only the season before last and we now add a more experienced Zouma - it is a waiting game as I think Tomori and Clarke-Salter will be ready within 2 years and I think both will be better than Rudiger (Tomori could play RB now) . Remember, we also refused to sell Christianson. And JT, in his last season, will want to go out on a high.

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03 Jun 2016 01:38:39
So it's looking more than likely each day that if we are signing a new CB it's going to be either Rudiger or Koulibaly who for me to be honest don't massively convince me. I'd prefer Christensen other both of them as he's much better on the ball. We need an experienced CB there to partner Zouma now and for me it's got to be one of Manolas or Bonucci (very unlikely I know), as they're both very good on the ball and have good experience. I may be wrong here but I just see a partnership of Zouma and either of Rudiger/ Koulibaly as too similar to work. What are you're thoughts?

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03 Jun 2016 05:20:32
I don't know much about Rudiger. However, you clearly haven't seen much of Koulibaly and you certainly have the wrong idea about him. He's excellent on the ball and can pass better than most CBs. The only problem with him is that he's a bit of a risk taker (think John Stones) but he's solid in the tackle. I personally think a Zouma Koulibaly partnership would be brilliant.

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03 Jun 2016 07:47:01
I think either of those defenders would be a solid purchase. But as Saim says above Koulibaly has the ability on the ball and would go well alongside Zouma.

I've read a few posts from people concerned that we're signing either Rudiger or Koulibaly instead of Bonucci or Manolas etc. That's a pretty big assumption that either Rudiger (who, as people have stated, is a regular with the World Cup winners and is coming off an excellent season with Roma) or Koulibaly would be the only CB we sign this summer. Patience people, we are going to see plenty of movement in and out of the squad this season and the CB position is one that may look very different come August.

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03 Jun 2016 13:16:26
on koulibaly. if you're unsure read what maradona had to say about him.

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03 Jun 2016 13:55:59
I'd be lying if I said I would rather have either of those guys over Marquinhos; however I think that statement has more to do with how I rate Marquinhos than the other two guys. Athletically both of these guys move very well which we clearly need with our lack of speed on defense. I haven't seen enough of either to really gauge how they are on the ball but at the same time the only centre half we have that I would consider to be good on the ball is JT. Just a side note but Koulibaly is an absolutely massive human being who would provide a heck of a target from set pieces.

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03 Jun 2016 16:41:47
But wouldn't Koulibaly also be going to the AFCON in January with Senegal?

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03 Jun 2016 18:18:04
That's a (known) downside to signing African Nations-eligible players. it hasn't stopped us before.

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03 Jun 2016 19:40:09
Koulibaly is great. Not sure about Rudiger, let's watch him in the euros.

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03 Jun 2016 00:38:02
Anyone know what's happening with pato is he going or getting next season to prove himself.

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03 Jun 2016 07:48:53
Gone mate - looking for a new deal elsewhere in Europe, otherwise he'll go back to Brazil. At. Minuet I have shown interest.

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03 Jun 2016 08:43:56
*Mineiro.

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