Chelsea Banter Archive August 31 2016

 

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31 Aug 2016 23:30:54
Matic, kante and Luiz would be a solid midfield 3.

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01 Sep 2016 06:36:43
What about creativity?

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01 Sep 2016 15:25:17
And no creative player in sight.

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01 Sep 2016 19:04:41
Firstly I said solid. Second, I would play Luiz before matic. Third, who cares because Luiz will play in defence ;)

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02 Sep 2016 07:19:46
People too quick to criticise nwblue.

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02 Sep 2016 11:34:52
I have to agree that Luiz is more creative than Matic.

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31 Aug 2016 21:35:31
Side note but who would you prefer to win in manc derby united or city.

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31 Aug 2016 22:31:54
City, hate Jose winning with another team.

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31 Aug 2016 23:09:51
A draw would be the best result so they both drop points.

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02 Sep 2016 11:36:02
Who cares about either of these Mancs, both trying to buy the Title.

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31 Aug 2016 21:23:04
I don't know what other posters think about our transfer window, personally I am satisfied with Chelsea purchase this summer😃. Every player that we signed looks useful and practical. Hopefully our two last signings will also fit in properly. Luiz played well for us in the past and hopefully he has matured as a player. IMO Alonso will be much better signing from majority of Chelsea supporters think ATM😃. I believe that we have missing link to challenge PL this season already.
I wish you all good night!

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31 Aug 2016 22:27:44
Good post antibot.
I am very happy with what we have done. Very excited to see Luiz back. I used to have him pegged as our next captian. not saying he will be but he is a passionate player with a good attitude on the pitch.

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01 Sep 2016 10:05:58
I am somewhat underwhelmed with our transfer business apart from Kante. Alonso, a young player rattling around three clubs in a short space of time and Luiz who can be superb now and again but has a suspect temper and on his day appalling. I cannot understand our policy at all and I do not believe, apart from maybe Alonso out of necessity, they were Conte pick. Whatever lasting impression one has of Mourinho, we won the title and he still made demands to strengthen his team and look what we got. He goes to Manchester United and says the same and he gets them. They will be there or there about but I am not sure we are good enough for anything but fourth at a push.

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02 Sep 2016 11:38:32
C1915, who would you have bought then? And I'm not sure about defending a manager who sold Luiz, de Bruyne, Mata, and Lukaku!

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31 Aug 2016 20:59:20
Very interesting and unusual formation of German national team 31321,I have to admit that I have never seen something like that😎.

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31 Aug 2016 19:50:51
Ed002, I know you are reluctant to post here, but would it be possible to get your views on Conte's transfer business this summer? And also on any deals we missed out on? Did a great write-up on it last year if I remember correctly.
Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - Not right now and keep in mind Conte is only a cog in the transfer wheel.}

31 Aug 2016 20:18:01
Thanks anyway Ed.

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31 Aug 2016 19:50:18
Two young Blues have today joined Bristol Rovers on loan until the end of the season.

Defender Jake Clarke-Salter, pictured above, and midfielder Charlie Colkett will gain valuable first-team experience with the League One side, who we met in the League Cup last week.

Clarke-Salter, 18, made his Premier League debut as a substitute in last season’s 4-0 win over Aston Villa and is a three-time FA Youth Cup winner, a feat achieved by only six other players in history. He has also helped us lift the UEFA Youth League twice.

Colkett, 19, is also a double UEFA Youth League winner, captaining the side in the 2016 tournament. He has won the FA Youth Cup twice, in 2014 and 2015, and was among the substitutes for our Premier League game at Swansea last term.

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31 Aug 2016 19:49:46
Is that is finished this window 002.

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{Ed041's Note - deals are always being worked on but it will be very unlikely anymore in mate.

31 Aug 2016 19:57:43
Of course, well thanks to all ed's, take it easy and I'll either be venting or praising or back in January, good work people's.

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{Ed041's Note - haha enjoy the ride.

31 Aug 2016 19:33:32
Hi ed002 I know your not interested in divulging stuff involving cfc but did you see the luiz one happening or was it a shock to you as well just curious.

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{Ed002's Note - It was discussed between the clubs in Monaco last Thursday. I only knew then.}

31 Aug 2016 19:41:32
So Ed002 still knew ahead of every mainstream news source. Take a bow.

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{Ed041's Note - he's amazing isn't she.

31 Aug 2016 19:46:10
so it wasnt a last ditch as made out thanks for reply appreciated.

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{Ed002's Note - It was not one of the first couple of options but he has a great deal of support at Chelsea and Thursday gave the opportunity to talk to a couple of clubs about centre backs.}

31 Aug 2016 19:47:08
Do u think tht is it Ed002? Or is there chance of more?

Understand it u don't want to answer.
Have a good night.

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{Ed002's Note - I am not getting involved in that.}

31 Aug 2016 19:52:05
Crazy transfer wouldn't have thought he would have been contes pick.

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31 Aug 2016 19:24:46
Luiz already swapped his Twitter profile.

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31 Aug 2016 18:44:44
Ed can you enlighten us on any other transfer news incoming other than luiz and alonso or is our business done now.
Thanks in advance.

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{Ed018's Note - nope. Looking like Luiz will be it}

31 Aug 2016 19:22:38
Really ed well thank god this transfer window is nearly over. Back to the norm.

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31 Aug 2016 19:13:29
Thanks for the info ed! Sorry for asking twice I didn't think the first question had gotten through. Shame no more are coming I would've liked brozovic reminds of nainggolan and also I would've liked a striker. However if it means Solanke and chaloboah break into the first team as a result of this is understand the reluctance to buy.

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31 Aug 2016 19:39:55
Maybe it is better if we don't sign another midfielder, since we have 6 CMs ATM and that would complicate things after fantastic start of a season😉.

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31 Aug 2016 19:49:03
plus Luiz? .?

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31 Aug 2016 20:29:36
Luiz is defender in a first place.

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31 Aug 2016 17:45:54
Ed do we have a backup plan for cm that you know of as it seems brozovic decided to stay at inter, or do you know if these claims are false and the deal may still be on?

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{Ed018's Note - he looks set to stay at Inter and I haven't heard anything new about any other options}

31 Aug 2016 17:18:15
After half a season at Fiorentina, he was recruited on loan for the second half of the 2013/ 14 campaign by Sunderland manager Gustavo Poyet, who selected the Spaniard in the League Cup final against Manchester City. Alonso also played in the Sunderland win at Stamford Bridge which ended Jose Mourinho’s 77-game undefeated league run at our stadium. It was his volley that led to the visitors equalising that April day.

Alonso then returned to Fiorentina where he established himself as a regular in the team as a left-back, wing-back or in a back-three. He leaves La Viola with 85 appearances and five goals scored.

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31 Aug 2016 16:51:56
So what would be our back four once everyone's fit. Is Luiz going to start? Will Alonso start? Will Ivanovic continue at LB. I personally think Aina is a better player than Alonso I just think he needs gametime. I would go with Aina, Zouma, Luiz and Azpilicueta. I prefer to see Azpilicueta at LB because he's our best defender and he gives Hazard that extra insurance.

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31 Aug 2016 17:03:14
What it will be - Ivanovic, Luiz, Terry, Dave

What I want it to be - Aina, Luiz, Terry, Dave.

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31 Aug 2016 17:07:05
You'd rather play Luiz instead of Zouma.

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31 Aug 2016 17:15:07
No offence but I don't see us spending £24m on a player then starting a youth team member ahead of them. If he'd cost £10m then maybe I could see that happening.

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31 Aug 2016 17:17:22
I'd imagine he left zouma out because he's injured.

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31 Aug 2016 17:23:25
Zouma jt Luiz.

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31 Aug 2016 17:30:33
In time
Dave Luiz zouma Alonso.

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31 Aug 2016 17:53:46
Same as you nibby 77
Azpilacueta. Zouma Luiz. Alonso.

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31 Aug 2016 18:00:53
Zouma has has a serious knee injury. I'd ease him back in so yeah, for now, I'd rather start Luiz.

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31 Aug 2016 18:01:54
24m is pennys in the current market. I think Aina is a better player.

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31 Aug 2016 19:45:18
I agree to a certain extent J. If we had Alaba as our LB I wouldn't bat an eyelid at £24m as a back up. I just meant that in our current circumstances, it doesn't seem realistic that we'd spend £24m for a LB to be behind an untested academy player.

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31 Aug 2016 19:59:30
Likewise Fuser, totally get where you're coming from. But the only way the academy players get tested is when they're put on in front of the 24m player.

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31 Aug 2016 16:38:22
Brozovic apparently wanted to be paid more than Kante. Sounds like we dodged a bullet there, he is decent, but by no means world class. Fee was good value, terms were not. Wonder if we could still snatch Matuidi from PSG.

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31 Aug 2016 17:35:51
he is not even a regular starter in a very average Inter team, we have plenty of options in centre midfield and some very good young players coming through.

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31 Aug 2016 15:57:17
I understand that Alonso has passed his medical, so that deal will complete soon.

Luiz is currently on a Eurostar train to London, so it is likely that he will has re-signed before the window closes.

I've been told that Ogbonna is keen on a move to the Bridge as he has worked with Conte in the past, but the last-minute nature of the interest (and West Ham's reluctance to sell) could be too problematic.

The finer details of the Brozovic move have mostly been ironed out, although nothing will happen with that until the situation with other potential outgoings (Cuadrado, Mikel) are sorted out. However, Fabregas looks almost certain to be staying - which could end the interest in Brozovic for now.

Surprisingly, I haven't seen any interest in a striker. I would have thought that, with this entire window seemingly geared towards giving Conte the players he needs to implement a 3-5-2 (and with Traore inexplicably loaned out), a back-up to Costa and Batshuayi would be a priority.

Perhaps we will spring a last minute surprise.

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31 Aug 2016 17:03:12
Why would Luiz be on a train?!? He's a millionaire and the clubs is hardly so cash strapped we'd make him take a train to his medical aha.

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31 Aug 2016 17:17:54
It was reported in Le Parisien (which is not known for getting those types of details wrong) .

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31 Aug 2016 19:42:34
My bad, just seen he was at St. Albans. Shocked he'd get a train though.

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31 Aug 2016 14:30:03
C'mon ed this is the one of craziest dead line days. Could you please help us out.

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{Ed018's Note - Alonso looks like a done deal. I think Luiz will happen. And I wouldn't count out a midfielder as well}

31 Aug 2016 14:54:35
Can I ask ed- midfielder likely to be Sissoko, or possibly still James etc? Any truth in Abdennour.

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{Ed018's Note - I don't think James will happen. I thought maybe Brozovic although that's been quiet. Sissoko is avalible so that's possible but I don't think Chelsea have made a move yet for him}

31 Aug 2016 14:55:54
Thanks for sharing! 😎.

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31 Aug 2016 15:13:27
Thanks for the update Ed, much appreciated.

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31 Aug 2016 15:18:52
What are people's thoughts on Luiz coming back? Personally I would love it, reckon having Kante in front of him would help wonders too.

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31 Aug 2016 15:21:32
Tbh i'd rather we ended our business with alonso, given who we're currently being linked with. I know we shouldn't be concerned with prices etc but I wouldn't pay more than £30m for Luiz. I'd avoid sissoko even if that meant we had to play Mikel every single game. Abdennour I'd avoid too, wouldn't even take him on loan. I'll support them if they join but would turn this window into a disappointment from my point of view.

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31 Aug 2016 15:47:19
Brozovic rejects Chelsea.

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31 Aug 2016 16:31:59
I think Luiz coming back will be a good signing, he plays with passion and spirit which is no bad thing, when he played against us in the champions league for PSG he was very strong and did not make any silly mistakes like he has ben prone to in the past.

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31 Aug 2016 17:09:46
Brozovic has not 'rejected' Chelsea - he's asking for too much money so we've left the offer on the table - we'll see if he lowers his demands.

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31 Aug 2016 17:44:18
Delighted Luis is coming back.

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31 Aug 2016 17:53:35
That has the same effect in the end. According to his agent he will sign new improved deal with Inter.

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31 Aug 2016 14:27:07
Sorry to crush a few deadline day dreams but Jorge mendes said last night James is staying at real. IF any of the eds want to prove me wrong and shed any new light on the situation feel free to do so but that seems to kill any chances of James signing.

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31 Aug 2016 15:04:50
We have four excellent wingers ( Hazard, Willian, Pedro and Moses) . So, winger is a last position we need. James Rodriguez is also capable to play as CAM but we have more than enough players on that spot. Brozovic is a very good player but personally I don't see him as necessity. CB would mean a lot if we can pull this. That would allow Conte to play with 3 in the back without stress.
Left back is crucial signing and whoever we sign additionally would be a bonus. 😎.

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31 Aug 2016 16:47:44
Moses and Pedro aren't excellent wingers antibot. They're are average same as Willian who is just a little bit better than them two.

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31 Aug 2016 14:20:09
Am I the only one excited to see Luiz possibly return. He's not the best defender but he's a player who can play more than one position. I think he was great when in midfield and would say he's better than Cahill. Rumoured £35m is bargain price in this stupid market.

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31 Aug 2016 14:48:01
I'm sort of excited in the sense he's better than Cahill and now prob better than an old John terry, and I do think he is 1 of the best passers of the ball for a defender, I don't think he suits our style, if he was playing for Barcelona, Bayern man city, yeah great on the ball 75 % possesion looks world class, but if we counter attack, stand off and invit pressure he will get found out of position, go wondering, make silly mistakes, but I'm torn he seemed to love Chelsea when he was here, he averaged 4 goals a season, great passer a few assists, and at this moment in time we need a defender, although I don't think we will get the deal done.

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31 Aug 2016 15:25:51
Cat have you been watching Chelsea lately? Counter attacking seems to be a past for Chelsea.

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31 Aug 2016 16:39:40
I was just thinking that antibot haha. We're very much a possession team now. Luiz will suit our play more than last time he was here IMO.

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31 Aug 2016 13:46:52
Luiz is Luiz, still can't quite believe it. perhaps a little embarassing on the boards part, anyway a defenders a defender and we need one! The real question here is with all these midfielders we are linked with, why aren't we raiding PSG for Matuidi after his move to Juve fell apart instead/ as well. Cracking player for the rumoured £30 fee!

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31 Aug 2016 13:28:12
anything new ed? sissoko is the newest rumour I have seen.

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31 Aug 2016 13:10:50
I hope out of all these 'rumours' floating around today that we actually sign a full back, centre back and midfielder. Not sure I've been this excited about deadline day since the Robinho saga!

I'd love to see us sign James, although a bit of a luxury player. he does have real quality.

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31 Aug 2016 11:37:13
I've noticed that a lot of people on here seem to think playing luiz in a three at the back is an option which I think it is as he could play well there and that the alonso signing is partially because he can play on the left side of the back three which is also good. But. I don't see how we could play three at the back at all when there are only two actual strikers in the first team squad. it seems very unlikely unless hazard plays as a second striker.

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31 Aug 2016 11:55:33
Hazard, Moses and RLC can all play as strikers. There's also 343 (3421) formation.

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31 Aug 2016 12:07:31
343 is the only way I could see it possibly working.

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31 Aug 2016 12:33:15
Conte used 343 with Italian national team.

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31 Aug 2016 13:06:11
Hazard and RLC are not strikers. Square pegs.

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31 Aug 2016 14:11:00
You are not following Chelsea lately, if you did you would know that is seeing RLC and Hazard as strikers

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31 Aug 2016 14:52:03
Sorry Conte said himself that he is seeing Hazard and RLC as strikers.

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31 Aug 2016 11:06:09
By the end of the window

Alonso
Brozovic
Luiz
Ogbonna or James.

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31 Aug 2016 11:24:57
Ogbonna or James, two different options there haha.

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31 Aug 2016 10:13:31
Transfermarket. Com listing obi mikel as a dual national (Nigerian and English) . He has stayed in England for quite a while and had a relationship with a English women and he father's her child. He earns a handsome money at chelsea and very few clubs in Europe can match that or offer a better deal. This is the reason no one wants him on loan, his contract is expiring next year and Chelsea will not offer him any contract. Maybe he opts for a Chinese side in January,

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31 Aug 2016 10:50:48
you have to remember with didier, frank, ashley etc. all gone there isn't many players in the squad who have been there for years. I think conte likes that.

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31 Aug 2016 07:59:27
Ed018, you said 4 was possible. Can we have a list of likeliest to unlikeliest signings today? Obviously Alonso near the top cause that is all but done but what about James, Brozovic etc?

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{Ed018's Note - all I know for sure would be Alosnso and Luiz. Obviously the last 2 names you mentioned are probably at the top of the list as well}

31 Aug 2016 10:16:15
Luiz on loan is OK,

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31 Aug 2016 09:38:52
Luiz would be a stupid signing. Koulibaly, De Vrij or nobody IMO.

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31 Aug 2016 11:22:32
Why, dublin? An experienced player who loves Chels - a player who can play in various positions - a brilliant and well-liked character in the dressing room - a defender with pace - a defender who is happy with the ball at his feet. Seems like a great addition to me.

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31 Aug 2016 14:00:06
A player with Character. Something we lack mate. Would be a great signing.

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31 Aug 2016 16:40:44
A defender that cannot defend?

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31 Aug 2016 08:34:24
By all accounts David to Luiz is on a plane heading to Heathrow :/.

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31 Aug 2016 09:11:41
David to Luiz? Is that some sort of tribute act lol.

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31 Aug 2016 09:36:45
That well known Kings Road indie rock band?

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31 Aug 2016 09:34:53
On a bad day we could end up with nine players on the pitch with Costa and Luiz in the side.

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31 Aug 2016 10:16:06
Tbh I would prefer Lindelof to Luiz. Only really see a place for Luiz if we play 3 at the back or possibly in midfield but we're pretty loaded in CM atm.

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31 Aug 2016 08:23:33
wondered if there is anything like the live match feed planned for later? thought that could work well seen as we look to be busy. i'd love luiz but I think its a spin to act like we are not too bothered about koulibaly - then we will sign him. I dunno, its exciting isn't it!

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31 Aug 2016 06:53:11
I had a dream we are going to sig aubameyang today 👍.

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{Ed041's Note - not happening.

31 Aug 2016 11:23:27
oooooooooah I wish.

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31 Aug 2016 08:38:40
How about the dream team of signning verrati ed?!?

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31 Aug 2016 07:32:06
Any news ed41 as its deadline day? Or any eds at all? No more headaches after tonight :)

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{Ed041's Note - I don't know sorry.

30 Aug 2016 23:22:47
It seems/ sounds like we are still struggling to get players in. Could be a quiet ending to the window for Chelsea.

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31 Aug 2016 14:39:14
Sorry, wrong info. We are indeed working very hard behind the scenes. Why we couldn't do this before the season starts I'll never understand.

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30 aug 2016 23:58:42
david luiz! woohoo! love that man! please say its true.

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