Chelsea Banter Archive November 30 2015

 

Use our rumours form to send us chelsea transfer rumours.


30 Nov 2015 19:25:59
Saim,
Wenger gets a lot of stick on Arsenal page, some of it deserved if I'm honest, but I have always backed him 100%.
His tenure has been a tale of 2 halves. Terrific first 10 years, but a very lacklustre 2nd half.
But, he has been loyal to Arsenal, oversaw the move to The Emirates, indeed, had to sell players to fund the move and has kept us in top 4 every season, despite some of the above.
He is leaving at the end of next season and deserves the support and respect of all Arsenal supporters, despite his failures to fully add to the squad during the Summer Window.

Sid,
I would not say any opposition manager tells his players to try to injure Arsenal players.
Most of the injuries we get are to players who are always on the treatment table.
We have a talented array of players at Arsenal, arguably more than any other team.
Alas, they are fragile. Walcott, Rosicky, Arteta, Ramsey, Welbeck, and don't even get me started on Wilshere.

We talk about it on the Arsenal page, but nobody knows the answer.
It must have something to do with the training, whether we train too hard between games, or indeed, don't train enough.

I honestly don't know why we get so many injuries.

Believable0 Unbelievable0

30 Nov 2015 21:22:57
And to think Dags he only charged £8 million a season for this service,10 years of champions league football qualification without ever once going even close to being 2nd let alone 1st, not many managers could manage that, man's a genius.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 21:42:09
G62,
I think, domestically he has achieved, bearing in mind we were average before he took over.

Agreed, the past 10 years has been an under achievement, but bearing in mind we haven't succumb to a takeover by a Russian Oligarch (no offence to the Chelsea boys because I have a lot of respect for Abramovic) or Saudi money (City), I think he has done well in always getting us into CL and 2 FA Cups.

And, in 18 months when he retires, he will be leaving behind a very good squad and a more than healthy bank balance.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 22:07:31
Dags I don't doubt for one minute the health of the bank balance but its the the health of the squad that worries me, be nice to have more than 4 or 5 players who can play 3 games on the bounce without needing 3 months treatment.
Arsene was a genius when he arrived and led us to fantastic achievements but he is now as quoted the only manager in the world who is unaccountable for his teams results and that's done niether him or Arsenal football club any good what so ever the last 5 years at least probably much longer in truth.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 23:30:58
Why are we doing this on this page? Lol.
We are 2 points off top spot, once our injuries start coming back, we will be fine mate.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 09:46:10
Stan Kroenke (worth $7 billion) owns 66% of the Arsenal shares, and Alisher Usmanov (worth $14 billion) owns 29%. Between them, that's $12 billion more than Abramovich is worth. Just saying, DG.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 11:31:35
BruCeFC,
You are 100% correct, but what I like about Abramovic is his willingness to put money in the club, unlike our shareholders.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 11:40:20
Your right Bru we are owned by a multi Billionaire the same as Chelsea and city the only difference with ours he's not interested in the football just the finance's.
We'd all love Usmanov to get control because then we could and would spend like city Chelsea utd Real Barcelona and Bayern, what fan if there honest doesn't want their team to have the best players? Idealy we'd all love to develop the world's best team from within our youth set up but failing that we'd all welcome a big spending backer with open arms.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 14:34:03
Being from St Louis I can very much vouch for Kroenke just being in it for namesake and monetary interest. i'm not sure whether he's less popular with your lot or back here.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 22:59:05
We are indeed lucky to have Roman as our owner. I reckon he's as big a Chelsea fan as any of us!

Agree0 Disagree0

02 Dec 2015 06:06:16
I agree with you Jackson! We are lucky to have Roman, and I do think he has a real passion for our (his) club. He realises that we must stay within FFP and the club are definately heading in that direction. he appears to be actively involved in the whole process, which many other owners don't (read post from our Arsenal friends above) which states to me he is passionate about our club, rather than just a man that wants results to pamper his ego from his plaything.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 16:13:50
Just checking how Ake has been doing at Watfird and apparently he's been really impressive. One thing I can say about him is that he's quite physical and very good defensively something which I can't yet say about Baba. Perhaps we should bring him back next year to challenge him at Left Back.

Believable2 Unbelievable0

30 Nov 2015 16:45:43
I agree and he runs with the ball very well. Rahman is not the future for us at left back. Elsewhere we need to start considering more game time for Loftus-Cheek; he has all the potential in the world but no experience and it is true what JM says about him, for all the good he does he can get caught ball watching. Play him and tell him, he'll learn. Don't know about others but I also think Aina is one we need to give some game time to; very good going forward but need to see him defensively against the big boys. Bring him on when games look safe.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 03:40:58
Babas still incredibly young and raw. People writing him off at this stage is laughable. When he was bought we arguably had the two best fullbacks in the league so he wasn't expected to be an immediate stud. Give the kid some time because physically he's immense and I would put my house on Jose being able to coach him up.

Agree1 Disagree1

01 Dec 2015 12:10:52
He is only 5'10" and 11st which is not immense. He made a lot of tackle last year in the German league because he had to but his strength is going forward because he is quick and a very good crosser of the ball BUT he is there to defend I think he has been found wanting badly. It is clear he was not JM's pick and as such players like that usually get hustled out. If we are going to play someone like Rahman then I would play Traore although he would be out of his best position also. We cannot have anymore playing out of position, when Ivanovic was off the boil the other defenders were being dragged over to cover and the defence was all over the place.

Agree1 Disagree1

01 Dec 2015 14:10:34
I didn't write him off t. k if you read it properly. Just said we should bring back Ake to challenge him as we may have a cracking full back in him.

Agree1 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 14:38:24
I didn't intend to direct it your way magical. It just seems this season everybody seems to think he's garbage. And using his height and weight is a poor gauge physically, I much prefer the fact that he is rather fast and doesn't get manhandled by opponents. Look at Ivanovic, he's built like a tank but many people on this site have been quick to point out he isn't going to run anybody down.

Agree0 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 14:53:28
You don't need to be tall as a fullback. Just look at ashley cole, probably the best fullback ever, he wasnt tall wast even muscular.

Agree1 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 17:07:10
Yeah I get what you mean t. k. I do like Baba just think he needs a little bit more muscle. He had the most tackles in the bundesliga last year so he can defend I just think he's adjusting.

Agree0 Disagree1

01 Dec 2015 17:37:32
LRDit: I was observing that he was not 'immense' and I agree you do not have to be tall and heavy as per Ashley Cole. Cole however could always read a game and adjust to his opponent and looked solid whereas Rahman does not read a game well and in Germany often got caught up field against counter attacking teams. Personally, I do not think he was a good buy, whether he makes it under JM I doubt because you have to be his picks. I am always wary of statistics regarding tackle count as they usually mean the player was in a team where he 'had' to make tackles. We read this morning that there is a possibility that Papy Djilobodji could be off on loan and him and Hector, can you really see either of those being JM picks? It is not surprising he had the ache early on.

Agree1 Disagree2

30 Nov 2015 05:36:52
Alright lads, how's it going? Happy with a point yesterday although slightly worried about our lack of goals. If you need a good Monday morning laugh then head over to the Arsenal page, quite a few of them are having a meltdown! It seems Wenger isn't their favourite person in the world right now lol!

Believable0 Unbelievable0

30 Nov 2015 08:25:16
Can't blame them. If Sanchez is out for an extended period of time, then that's terrible news for them. They've already lost Coquelin so it's a hard blow. This season should be a very big opportunity for them to win the title, because no team has been very good so far. I can understand their frustration to be honest.

Agree1 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 10:25:29
I can definitely understand their frustrations as well! I just think it's funny that when things are going their way they adore Wenger yet as soon as they drop a few points it's #WengerOut. At least we stick by our manager and our club when results aren't going out way!

Agree0 Disagree1

30 Nov 2015 10:46:20
Saim,
Are you sure mate?
Half the posts on here are 'Mourinho out' posts, just because he's having a bad patch, despite the fact you are still reigning champions.

Jackson, spot on. Sanchez injury, on top of Coquelin, is a bitter pill to swallow at present.

Agree2 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 11:08:28
Have to agree to dagenham gunner, a lot of post here were for mourihno's head (mine were too for 2 weeks) just after stoke match everyone started to support mourihno again.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 11:16:32
LRDlt,
All fan's are fickle mate, lol.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 13:06:55
Never have known a team to have so much problems with long term injuries as Arsenal. Seems to be year after year. Not sure how all the injuries occur Dags, but are opposition managers telling their players to be overly aggressive with your team for reason or another.?

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 16:08:13
Think Arsenal are genuinely two players short of a consistent title challenge. A CB and a powerful centre midfielder are what they need. Surprised Wenger can't see that.

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 17:43:42
Dags, I was actually surprised at the support for Jose when our form was at its worst. There were obviously some calling for his head (gonna put it out there I gave him 100% support) but the overwhelming majority of us were supporting him! What is your opinion of Wenger and where do you stand with him?

Agree0 Disagree0

30 Nov 2015 17:59:38
Got to say I've been impressed how well Chelsea fans have handled this bad start to the season, obviously it's not something your used and personally I thought they'd be a lot more sulking but in the main the supporters have been a massive credit to the club.

Agree1 Disagree0

01 Dec 2015 03:44:13
I was going to say this site was unbearable for a month or so with the Jose out brigade. Melbourne hit the nail on the head this summer when saying certain supporters don't deserve Jose.

Agree0 Disagree0