Chelsea Banter Archive May 30 2012
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30 May 2012 21:33:21
Cech
richards luiz terry cole
lampard ramires
hulk mata hazard
torres
how's that for ya!!
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Richards won't leave.
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To OP, I'd go with that except Richards, don't see us signing him to be honest, recent Lamps injury with England may make us look at another CM more seriously, not suggesting its a long term injury but he is getting older and questions may be raised over his ability to play as much as he has before, although I'd rather see Josh given a chance to help rest Frank when needed and we still have Romeu who looked good in patches, better potential than Mikel in my opinion. Except for a RB and back-up striker most of the other positions are well covered by young or youth players. Looking forward to an amazing season with the signings we appear to have so far, Hazard and Hulk (I know these arent 100% confirmed but they are all but done from what we know), any more will be icing on the cake. And with the likes of Piazon, Josh, De Bruyne, Lukaku etc etc still to come ....... the futures bright, the futures Blue!
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Take Richards out replace with Azpilicueta.
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This would be great... if city would sell us richards. we can dream right?
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Or put in Ivanovic
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Iv said before at the right price most players could be brought apart from the likes of messi xavi and iniesta who probably will never leave barcalona so we could still get richards highly doubtful though
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30 May 2012 20:38:28
I am just fed up people posting teams! What do they expect to get out of it?
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Cech
ivanovic luiz terry cole
lampard ramires
hulk mata hazard
torres
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Umm its the banter page where we all dream, discuss and enjoy agreeing, disagree and comment & put other peoples ideas into the air. make points of other posts.
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Yer if you dont like seeing peoples teams then dont come on the page read what the above post replied to you
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30 May 2012 20:26:10
Fernando Torres scored the first for the Spanish national team!
Go on Nando lad show the world your back mate!!
Dan1CFC
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30 May 2012 20:13:34
First two posters talking sense,
Third poster is a numpty,
Forth poster must be fairly young, most of us older fans, know it as the north stand.
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Mate what you on about ?
Jm10
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Who knows jm10 think hes been let out of his locked down room for the day
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30 May 2012 18:56:14
does anyone know if torres and mata are playing for spain tonight?
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Dont worry just found a stream and torres has just scored a hernandez header:)
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Both are playing, spain 1 up after 20 minutes, scored by Torres.
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Yes both started. Torres scored a header
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Both are starting, is it on tv? BLUEBOY1
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Not on tv but try adthe.net
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From the live com it seems like Torres is playing well which is great news.
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Im bored now torres and mata have been taken off
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30 May 2012 17:39:35
Who will be better?
Hulk-Mata-Hazard
-----Torres--------
Di Maria-Ozil-Ronaldo
-------Benzema-------
Agree for Chelsea ,Disagree for Madrid
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I have to admit ours does look bloody frightening.
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I cant pick to be honest ours does look frightening as the person above said if they perform well but however theres what 180+ mill worth of players in madrids front four
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Wow good post, I have to say ours does look better, still wouldn't say no to Ronaldo but that ain't gonna happen
FT9
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Cmon lads Ronaldo's on a different planet to Hazard and Ozil is better than mata
with Benzema "currently" better than torres and Hulk and Di Maria pretty even tbh. Either way Real Madrid will be a better team
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Nice post,ours does look more frightening one .Torres any day over Benzema,who last season was backed up by a classy midfield.On form there is no comparison.Mata and Ozil are more or less on the same level.Hulk over Di Maria as Hulk scores more goals and posses a lethal strike.Hazard may not be as good as Ronaldo now be he definitely has the potential to be one of the best wingers ever.
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Did real Madrid have all them players last season? Did they win the champs league? Bore off last poster
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On paper they both look awesome front four but id probably have to say yes ronaldo is different league to hazard ozil isnt that much better than mata plus matas only had one season with us and hulk is better than di maria not "even"
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Just because real madrid didnt win the champions league dont make there team poor barca only got the copa del rey last year enough said and if us chelsea fans are honest we got a bit of luck in the champions league no doubt we played extremely well against napoli(second leg) and barca and bayern but could of easily been a diff story if our park the bus tactic backfired
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I guess the question is, if you could pick from those 8, which front 4 would you pick? Personally, being somewhat biased towards Chelsea as I am, i'd probably put Ronaldo in instead of Hulk and keep Mata, Hazard, Torres. Not that Hulk is a bad player, but Ronaldo is clearly better. As a neutral ..... I'd be over the moon with either line-up.
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It would look scary if that 50m hair care product wasn't leading your attack.
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30 May 2012 16:28:20
**********Cech*******
Ivanovic-Cahill-Terry-Cole
-----Ramires-----LDM?---
Hulk-------Mata------Hazard
********Torres********
Shurely this will be the formation next season if Roberto stays..(4-2-3-1)
Bench:Turnbull/Hilario
-------Hutchinson/Kane
-------Luiz
-------Lampard
-------Mikel
-------Sturridge
-------Marin
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Yann M'Villa
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I think lampard or mikel will occupy the ldm in your team, don't think we will sign anyone for that position. Also I think a new rb would come, not sure who, but Ivanovic prefers to play cb and we have 3 of the best in the premier league in my opinion, and although I don't particularly like the idea, maybe ivanovic should make a move elsewhere, I dont see him wanting to be back-up as rb and cb.
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I'd play lamps along with Ramires, or Milkel as I think he done well last year, but what about luiz, good on ball loves going forward??
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Fernando!
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LDM as Mikel and put Romeu on the bench
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30 May 2012 16:19:08
Lineup for next season:
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Azpilicueta-Terry-Luiz/Cahill-Cole
Ramires-Mikel
Hulk-Mata-Hazard
Torres
Subs:
Turnbull
Luiz/Cahill
Ivanovic
Lampard
Romeu/McEachran/Meireles
Marin
Sturridge
Looking very, very good. Hopefully RDM gets the job, not sure I like Pep, no doubt great manager but Robbie loves this club and deserves his chance.
Scotty.
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Bertrand?
Ian Britton's Hair
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30 May 2012 15:50:09
Firstly where lucky capturing Hazard. Huge player etc etc, but good luck with us trying to handle his ego. Now that Chelsea seem to have landed such a huge player, we all seem to get our massive heads on and start looking at more huge signings. I keep hearing about the links to Moura. Why? Is Marin, Mata, Hazard,etc etc not a good enough attacking display? Mata is only 1 season fresh into the EPL and yet we want more of the best players who will come fresh and may take time in adapting to the EPL. Remember these players may only play there best football at there current clubs.... thats it! Those before mentioned players are young and versatile that they can play wings and attacking midfield, we don't need Moura! Not with the likes of Ramires, Essien, Lampard, Mikel etc.
Also there I also keep hearing about the link up with Hulk? I honestly think will get him but what will happen to our younger promising stars? Sturridge, Lukaku etc, where will they go? Do you think that Hulk linking up with Torres will be immediately amazing? Or just because they're two of the largest superstars that it'll be "fairy tale" partnership, and look nice on paper? I hope it'll be amazing on and off paper.
I honestly think that we should be considering options for a new RB - Bosingwa could be sold, a new CB - Ivanovic could well be on his way out with the right price from Barcelona, a new striker (Hulk which is bound to happen) and thats it. Oh also what ever happened to our youth system? Its terrible! Were our our crop of young talent that hasnt just been bought?
We've shown Europe what we are capable of with our crop of players, and there is no doubt that we can do it again next season without over the top spending as there's no need for it. I hate seeing on this Chelsea site that most of the fans are only interested on huge massive market signings. Yes it is banter and we all want our club to sign great players but, its almost as bad as looking at Man City site - player didn't perform well this season, oh well must boot him on. Player has just been linked with other top European clubs, oh well sign him on for a massive wod of cash etc before anyone else, and disregard our youth stepping up to the plate, and or signing other players that have great if not equal ability that wont cost an excess of 30 mil quid. Have money - must buy. Our policy is b****cks! Exactly like Man City. I would like to see Di Matteo still control the helm and prove to everyone that we are not following in the same footsteps as Mancini. I understand that now days you have to buy some of the best players in the world to try and strengthen our squad and to contend against the top 4 but i personally would love to see our younger players have a more crack at it next season. I hope we dont just buy a new starting 11 this transfer window and disregard players that have potential.
Sorry for my rambling on.
BlueAllTheWay
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I ain't worried about sturridge talking of hazards ego, sturridge is a big headed t**t. But what makes it worse he ain't that good. Hulk is being brought in to play on the wing. I just want mceachran, Bertrand and lukaku to get game time this year
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Kane chalobah terry josh and that goalkeeper who's name
I have forgotten
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Please stop commenting your talkin rubbish mikel essien and lamps play completely diff position to moura for a start and whats wrong with having too many quality players its better than not havin enough quality players like last season with kalou bosingwa and sturridge aint much better one man army
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Moura in my opinion is already twice the player that Marin is and certainly one of the brightest prospects on this planet. Would be plain stupid not to go after him just because "we already have Marin". We still went after Hazard although we already bought Marin…If Goetze becomes available one day we should try to lure him, too if the slightest chance persists. (One can dream right guys? :)) You can never have enough talent!
Cheers
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Bosingwa has been released for a start ..... I could go on but I'll be here all night, suffice to say I disagree with alot of this.
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30 May 2012 11:43:11
Just heard a frightening rumour,Milan Lalkovic could be a part of hulk deal..ed plz say its not true,they are only just rumours!! :(
silv3rzz ;)
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Lalkovic is really nothing special, he will never be good enough for our first team or even Porto's for that matter
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Milan lalkovic, is quality, he destroys them left backs for fun.
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Is this in youth or reserve matches though ..... enough said
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Have only seen a bit of him but he appears to have pace, 2 good feet, good finisher, plays well on both flanks aswell as up front, still young but looks like a great potential talent. Always a shame to see any young talent leave the club before they have had a chance to prove themselves, if there is any truth in this of course.
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30 May 2012 14:45:17
Cech
Alves. Ivanovic. Cahill. Cole
Fellani
Ramires. Mata
Hulk. Torres. Hazard
My choices for next season:
Luiz straight swap for dani alves
Drogba,bosingwa,kalou =free
Malouda hopefully part of a deal for fellani plus £18m
Terry and lampard part of squad,similar to giggs and scholes at utd.
Schurrle as back up to Sturridge and Torres
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Really Luiz straight swap for alves. Luiz is 25, Alves is almost 30. That part of your post not only makes it the dummest post I've seen in a while but also unrealistic. Well I do like the idea about schrulle would be an awesome and cheaper back up striker for Torres.
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What are you ona bout luiz straight swap for alves firstly alves is worth a hell of a lot more and secondly luiz will be too good a centre back to just swap for a right back
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Everyone has there own thoughts and that's mine.Luiz is no doubt a quality player on the ball,but his positioning and defending is not as good as Cahill,terry or ivanovic.His passing and even shooting I think would suit a Defensive midfield role.I just think he makes too many rash decisions in and around the box.I can't really comment on VDW or Cesar as I have not seen any of them play.Alves is probably the best RB in the world and also a great defender.Really I would prefer Richards,but cannot see city selling.
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Oh no i agree with you about luiz just dont think we should swap him for alves because with some training he will be good just buy alves
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30 May 2012 14:13:32
I think Todd Kane is going to play right back along with Ivanovic(who will rotate as CB and RB) with Paulo Ferriera as cover.More over Hutchinson can also play there .I do not think we need to sign a new right back as I think Kane has the potential to develop into a very good one.
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Hutch is way ahead of Kane mate i wouldnt expect to see Kane for a couple of seasons
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30 May 2012 13:23:22
chelse need at least 8 player including 5 strong and young defender in case of injuiry
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Armchair supporter by any chance?? we need a right back at most not a major though were trying to bring in hulk moura we got hazard and marin plus the likes of mcecharan piazon lukaku sturridge bertrand hutchinson van aanholt and others so please tell me how u worked out we need 8 new signings
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Oh dont forget mata de bryne kakuta getthe signings we need and our teams sorted for 5 plus years
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30 May 2012 12:02:29
with clubs like barca and real madrid looking at ivanovic and the fact we have released bosingwa, we need to get another right back and he needs to be an attacking one, dani alves has been rumoured with a move out so either him or a player like him is more important than signing back up for torres
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30 May 2012 10:36:11
Hi Ed, just wondering if Ivanovic actually dislikes playing RB, everyone is always saying that he doesn't like playing there. Did he mention this in an interview a while ago or is this just guesswork? Thanks in advance. {Ed001's Note - from what I remember of his interviews, he just said he wanted to play centre back, rather than right back.}
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29 May 2012 22:35:46
Ed, do you think that if Chelsea get Hulk, they will still want to buy another top striker? {Ed001's Note - I very much doubt it.}
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30 May 2012 12:00:16
In these transfer rumour days, I think a lot of us are also wondering whats up with Josh McEachran.. Is he not the player we all thought he could be at this stage of his career? I truly hope he will become one of Englands best midfielders, but what will happen to him next season, and what do you think of the possibilities of him being a regular in Chelsea's starting 11 Ed ? {Ed001's Note - I expect him to be more of a regular sub myself.}
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29 May 2012 18:58:00
ed have you seen this guys twitter @MilliLeaks_
its quite clear hes using your info and posting it like hes got sources, anyone else seen it {Ed001's Note - a lot of people do similar things, it is quite sad really, people are happy to take the credit for 002's info but never to share it!}
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Millileaks is a spoof.
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30 May 2012 11:46:33
the talk of these great attacking talents who we could be signing is great but i think for us to be solid an strong we need a good right back,only options really cesar and VDW, but kyle walker would be my choice..and i think a solid central midfielder an i'd lve to see fernando there. class player. when we were most successful in the league it was makelele who was our linch pin an allowed all our attacking talent to do their job by breaking up the play so well an reading the game so possibly filling this void with fernndo will be our best signing
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VDW is overrated mate go for micah richards hes not first team anymore offer big enuf city will sell
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Agree I don't like van der wiel. I do lik azipicueta thou
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30 May 2012 11:45:16
I feel so good when Chelsea signed Hazard and Marin. Now i would really like to see Hulk in our blue kits next season. Imagine this squad.
Cech
Bosingwa-Ivanovic-Terry-Cole
Essien-Lampard
Ramires-Mata-Hazard
Hulk
SUBS: Hilario,Luiz,Malouda,Torres,Sturridge,Mikel,Marin.
When Drogba retires, can we try and lure him back to Chelsea as a coaching staff( only if he wants, of course)?
If i were Abramovich, I would not let Malouda, Bosingwa, Mikel and Kalou go. They are players with huge talent and a lot of experience. Kalou and Mikel are young and they developed pretty good since they are in Chelsea. Malouda is maybe 30-31 but he is still good. Bosingwa is in top shape now, at least i think he is. Aspilicueta ( grammar-ok?) should be looked after only for buying in 2-3 years when Bosingwa gets out off shape.
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Bosingwa has already been released by the club.
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Did you even watch Chelsea last year? Bosingwa, Essien, Kalou, Mikel improved by the end of the year but i dont think any of those players would bother any top teams.
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You do realise Bosingwa has been released?
Chelsea Nick
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Personally I wouldn'y play Hulk instead of Torres (providing we even sign Hulk). Also as much as I love him I don't think Essien is a starter anymore, and Bosingwa's been released (thank god).
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Mikel isnt going malouda isnt a sure thing yet but as for kalou and bosingwa there toilet so let them go
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Mate are you mad? did you wacthed any of Chelsea games? Tell me at least one where Malouda performed at least average ?
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I think you need bringing up to date mate. Bosingwa & Kalou have already been released. As for Hulk, he will be deployed on the right-wing with Torres leading the line. Ramires will slot back into the centre alongside Lamps. All we need after we sign Hulk is an out and out right back and then we will be in a position to mount a serious title challenge next season.
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30 May 2012 11:35:54
While watching the champions league final highlights,i noticed something i missed during live action..Something great!...Petr Cech dived in the correct direction for all the 6 bayern penalties,including the one he saved off robben in extra time!great isn't it?legend!
silv3rzz ;)
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Its taken you nearly 3 weeks to work that one out.....
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30 May 2012 11:21:48
Do we really need to sign a new RB? We've got Brana as 1st choice, Luis could play there and Todd Kane and Tomas Kalas both look really good albeit still young. If we sign someone they'll never get a look in.
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Ivanovic doesn't want to play at RB.
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Kalas plays mainly as a CB and will be on loan for another season, the closest youth RB we have to the first team is Hutch
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Forgot to mention Hutchinson, even more reason to not sign anyone though...
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30 May 2012 10:56:49
Feeling good, Hulk deal almost completed plus he just followed Mata and Hazard this morning on Twitter (gotta mean something right?). Can't wait for next season those three would be deadly with El Nino as well. Its only a MATA of time till things get HAZARDeous in europe cause HULK will smash!! Haha see what I did there.
ELI
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Ha not gonna lie i did laugh at this post
PB
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Dude seriously that was poor lol good effort though
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30 May 2012 08:57:53
have drogba, kalou and bosingwa found new clubs yet?
also are we looking at luuk de jong or oliver giroud or any striker other than higuain, falcao, or cavani??.....imo, we are gonna be buying a good second-choice striker....taby
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30 May 2012 10:39:43
anybody else seen hulks tweet this morning?
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Whts his twitter?
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Enlighten us
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Hulk tweeted: Thanks to all Chelsea
fans, the beautiful messages of support! And I'm
sorry for my english h."
And then he followed Mata and Hazard on tweeter.
ELI
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30 May 2012 09:57:20
Just thinking that if we succeed with signing the players we are looking at the squad could look like this. I have put () around unsigned targets and [] around players i think will leave if more players come in.
GK - Cech, Hilario, Turnbull
Def- Terry, Cahill, Bran, Luiz, Cole, Bertrand, Hutch (Cesar), [Ferreira]
Mid- Lamps, Ramires, Obi, Romeu, [Meireles], [Essien], (Fernando)
Attack Mid/Wing - Marin, Mata, [Malouda], (Hazard), (Hulk), (Moura)
Striker - Torres, Sturridge, Lukaku.
With the likes of de Bruyne, Piazon and Josh (and possibly Lukaku) all getting some loan time this looks like a very versatile and exciting squad.
P.S i did not include any of the strikers we are looking at largely because i don't think any will want to play second fiddle to Torres, and because i believe with Sturridge and Hulk we have two good replacements, and obviously Lukaku eager to make a positive impact this season.
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30 May 2012 08:31:44
why is it everytime i look on this website i see "can hazard change his mind hazard this hazard that hazard hazard hazard" seriously you lot love him more than he loves himself give the subject a rest now and talk about players we are still trying to sign NO hes not "trolling" chelsea NO he cant change his mind YES he has clearly stated hes joining chelsea hence im joining champions league winner guess what thats us talk about different players ur like broken records infact EDs can you just not even put the posts up that when its the same stuff please
oh by the way soon as the two clubs agree a price hulks a chelsea player
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30 May 2012 08:28:40
we need three more players RB,RW and a CM player who can dictate the pace of our game. Guys who will be the first choice CB for next season i will go for luiz and cahill your thoughts welcome
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Terry and cahill there be first choice at euros makes sense in my opinion
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30 May 2012 08:02:32
Did we get several hundred millons for the champions league trophey
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Maybe if we sold it on eBay but winning the final got us approx 50mil for this year and a larger share of English tv money for nxt year. Sadly we didn't get a tower full of money that roman could dive into :(
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30 May 2012 00:33:35
The club's movements on the tranfer market point towards an exciting season ahead!
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30 May 2012 00:09:03
My Ideal/Realistic Team For Next Season -
.. P Cech ..
.. C Azpilicueta .. D Luiz .. G Cahill .. A Cole ..
.. Y M'Villa .. Ramires ..
.. Hulk .. J Mata .. E Hazard ..
.. F Torres ..
Bench -
R Turnbull, B Ivanovic, R Bertrand, J Mikel, F Lampard, M Marin, D Sturridge.
John Terry will probably receive a 12 match ban for alleged racism hence why hes not in the team for the start of next year.
With such an attacking 4 top players we need defensive cover and legs in the 2 center midfield positions, Ramires has shown he is a beast and has a fantastic engine, his tackling and passing have improved as well as his understanding of the EPL and Chelsea. A Perfect partner for him in the CM area would be Yann M'Villa, he is built and could easily cope with the physicality of the EPL, he has a very good and accurate short passing game, hes a consistent and potent tackler and interceptor and from what i have seen deserves the hype he has been given. He would be our rock and the security blanket for our defense, which is something i think we will need because i don't see Mata or Hazard or Hulk coming back on defensive duties. For the price of £20m that is being suggested and him being 21 i see him as a great buy.
PB
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Agree with ur defence completely, I think them two being our future at centre should gel, agree with ur front four. Then we have Marin as back up and debruyne or kakuta. Ramires being the attacking one of the two centres but think we should go get Fernando he's a beast at reading the game and tackleing or Martinez, but I think that will be mikes and lamps job next season. BLUEBOY1
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29 May 2012 23:52:32
can everyone jus shut up about hazard.every single person on here moaning and asking questions about hazard isnt gonna make him a chelsea player.he will offically become a chelsea player on the 1st of july END OF!!and if you actually read the page before posting you will see your answer as the question has been asked and answered a million times!!SO EVERYONE SHUT UP ABOUT HAZARD PLEASE!!!!!1
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29 May 2012 23:45:45
---------------cech--------------
azpill-----luiz----terry----cole-
-----ramires-------mikel-------
hulk----------mata------hazard
---------------torres------------
bench:
-lukaku
-sturridge
-cahill
-ivan
-lamps
-meirelles
-marin
sales:
-malouda
-kalou
-drog
-bosingwa
-ferriera
loans:
mcechran
piazon
de bruyne
courtois
feruz
lalkovic
bruma
kalasMATT
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No sub keeper, always a risk
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29 May 2012 23:25:01
How do u fit rami,mata hazard hulk n torres into a strike force? Someones guna have to play cm but who? All of these players would have to start!
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Do you even watch football?
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Ramires obviously as that is his position.
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29 May 2012 17:44:02
Hi ed as we all know we are currently working on deals or looking at certain players eg hazard hulk Marin plus a few more. With some of these close to completion. What will happen when a new manager is appointed and has his own targets. If these players are already signed will we also go after the managers targets. I realise with Chelsea it's not always down to managers opinion but surely he has some input and will have own ideas?
BTJ {Ed001's Note - AVB only chose one player, Meireles, mostly a manager works with what he is given.}
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