Chelsea Banter Archive May 02 2013

 

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02 May 2013 23:41:09
Hi ed,

I know that you don't like answering questions about the manager situation, but the papers seem to be almost certain that Mourinho is returning and have already started listing his first signings etc. What I want to know is whether other clubs have spoken about the possibility of Mourinho as their next manager? {Ed002's Note - Yes and this has been covered before.}

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02 May 2013 22:21:33
I swear David Luiz' shot brushed Frank's bum on the way in, one for the dubious goals panel?

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No chance

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02 May 2013 22:12:39
Just saw something on the European soccer page where ED02 mentions the first week of June regarding Hiddink and have seen his comment on here about June the 6th is that when the new Manager is likely to be named ED?

BLUEBLOOD

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Blueblood, you post a lot and I respect you for that but the reason Ed doesn't really want to share anything anymore is because people pick up every word he says and ask questions that you know are going to annoy him.

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She! Not he

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02 May 2013 21:55:41
Chelsea vs Bayern in the Super Cup next season? =P

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02 May 2013 21:54:56
Thought Torres was unlucky to only get one! Run around all night put in a good shift!

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02 May 2013 21:28:37
You get rafa for a season and he's taking you to a european final, the damage was done for CL run so nothing he could do to save that, the s*** you give him is disgraceful, you don't deserve him.

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Did anyone actually hear any roberto di matteo chants? I didn't hear anything like that and honestly think the press is drumming up a story that isn't happening anymore.

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Bore off

pinky

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It's not. Like we just knocked out Munich in the semis is it lol. We was also only 5 points behind utdwhen rdm left and still in for 4 cups. But we lost 3. He's a Liverpool waiter* and well always disrespect him altogether.

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U say the damage was done for the cl run but we were only 4 points off man u when benitez took over and now look where we are.

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I was at the game there were and have been all season rafa out banners and one dimatteo was sung on the 16th minuite
We were also 2nd when rafa took over now were fighting for 3/4

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We had been at the top of the table. I'm sure if you take a look at how many points were dropped prior to RDM being cut you will see the real story.

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In RDM's last games in the premiere league we picked up 4 points.

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02 May 2013 21:23:12
There's only one David Luiz!
Scored a few recently being in midfield. Guess what mikel can't do tht!

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Great goal, now get him off the pitch. Last thing we need is him to miss the final by getting a yellow. Mikel and Oscar on. Ramires and Luiz off.

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02 May 2013 20:58:18
Not really sure what to say about our first half performance except blah. Certainly need to be more clinical from the chances we've had. Haven't really created anything or shown any sort of desire. We're stopping them from getting too many shooting opportunities but we're allowing/giving them too much possession. Need to come out 100x better next half. Not enough creativity either.

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02 May 2013 20:57:22
Does anyone of you think that Moses is an upgrade over Kalou?

JG

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Honestly no. Kalou was awful most of the time but popped up with lolts of important goals.
Kalou at his best is better than moses at his best, but moses is more consistent.

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Moses is far superior thsn Kakou and is having a great first season. Very under rated player.

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You know that he has scored one goal and assisted none in over 20 appearances in EPL this term, don't you?

JG

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Moses was quality today, I can't remember kalou playing that good

jscottjr

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Moses is without a doubt an upgrade to kalou. plus he's like 5 years younger and loads more potential.

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Moses and kalou are the same. can't cross can't read the game. Can't learn to understand other players. Just score a few goals. Other than that they ain't good enough.

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This latest response perfectly matches my opinion on the two. Potential is not a must to blossom. Kalou had potential and left without ever becoming someone the club thought he would become. Moses can not cross, can not pass. Yes he is 5 years younger and just got here, so there is more patience with him than there was with Kalou at the end.

JG

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I feel Moses is at the level on Kalou when Kalou left so Moses can only get better.
if we shift to a 4-3-3 I think he would become a lot better and present more scoring chances

One Bomb Tom

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What chances could he possibly have on the bench with 4-3-3, Tom?

JG

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02 May 2013 20:46:01
First half two yards slower rubbish thought rafa said we were playing strongest side.

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It is a decent team but we're yards off the pace needed. Seems like the players were just trying to see the game out really, as if they didn't think that Basel had any chance of getting back into the tie.

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02 May 2013 20:01:56
Does Torres actually have a problem with his nose or does he wear it to look perty?

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Maybe because he played well with it he decided to leave it on.

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02 May 2013 15:50:04
Would we really be interested in signing Xabi Alonso? Or anyone else over 30 for that matter! Kinda defeats the object of bringing in a policy of handing 1 year contracts to over 30's. unless Alonso is likely to come in on a one year deal which is unlikely!

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I'd love alonso at Chelsea,

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I'd rather sign Gundogan from Dortmund he made Alonso look average in both legs

CfcBenWxm

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02 May 2013 17:45:00
Alonso is past it. not good enough anymore.

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To be honest Gundogan and Alonso are head and shoulders above any other CM that I would want. Despite Alonso's age he is still World-Class!

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02 May 2013 12:53:54
Is there any interest from Chelsea in Leandro Damiao. Would be great, just to wind up tottenham. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}

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02 May 2013 10:57:03
If Mourinho leaves R. Madrid in the summer it'll be interesting to see how they fare over the next couple of seasons. When he left us we had, despite winning a few trophies, a definite downfall. Also, look at Inter Milan; they've been poor since he left.

Does this mean we shouldn't view Mourinho as anything more than a short term solution, hopefully not. I don't think Mourinho will stay at any club for more than four years or so but he is still the best option potentially available for us right now. The problem both us and Inter faced when he left was that we tried to completely change the winning ethos he'd put into the clubs - in our case it was our obsession with playing better football; you'd like to think that we've learnt from that mistake. Even if Mourinho only stays for three or four years we should re-build our infrastructure, the quality in our youth is there the facilities are there; we just don't really have an identity as a club at the moment - that's something he can give us. When he goes we have to carry on with that infrastructure/ethos - promote coaches from within etc.

Of course, this is dependent on Mourinho leaving Madrid and joining Chelsea.

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Our decline was gradual and more perhaps due to the fact that our core group of players had gotten older. That coupled with trying to transition to a more free-flowing team in the last two years has seen us stumble. With Inter, Jose won with an already aged squad, they were only ever going to go downhill afterwards.
Jose does definitely instill a winning mentality wherever he's gone and that seems to be something we've lacked due to managers with little to no experience. For me, I don't forsee Jose jumping around for much longer. I feel he'll take 1 maybe 2 more jobs then switch to International management. So his next position if it's in England will possibly be his last club position.

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02 May 2013 12:16:46
If he comes to Chelsea. he would first want huge money. second he will quick fix the issues as soon as possible, No promotion ofm youth. he has never ever done that with any club.
he will buy world class players for each position.
aeging and older players (his choices) will get more game time and matches.
and he actually plays a boring defensive game. simple as that.
Klopp would have been a steal. developed a potential average side to a world beater.
dortumand plays execptional.
theit players average age is 25 probably, he gives youth plenty of opportunities and most important he would stick witha club for long term.
no ways jose would. he would suerly fall out with roman in 2 years. guaranteed.

I also felt AVB should have been with us. young manager. plenty of years with him. with proper backing we would have been an absolute force.

The reason RDM was sacked inspite of CL was he is not a world recognised manager and roman want chelsea to destroy teams like bayern did with barca. and not winning something defensivly.

Its gona be interesting who all the players jose would want to come to bridge rather than Chelsea are interested.

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As I said - "he is still the best option potentially available for us" - Klopp would be my favourite option, however I don't see him as being available.

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In comparison to players bought by Chelsea that managers perhaps aren't interested in?

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You a part time Chelsea man Harry?

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The problem is any new manager will have no time to build young players, because he will be sacked after loses 2 or 3 matches. so the best option for chelsea manager is to play the best player possible to win every game, and to buy world class player in each position. hope they (whoever it is, I don't know), will give time to our next manager to build a strong squad for more than several season.

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Think everyone's forgetting what roman as done for the club we wouldn't be where we are if it wasn't for him ok this season isn't the best so what it's football. The youth set up that we have is great the time money and effort that's going into making it work and am sorry if the youth players are gud enough they will get in the first team look at the other clubs there youths not flooding through and if am being truthful not since beckhams butt scholes era don't think any club as Liverpool have Afew but to be fair they haven't got a choice really and am sorry but if you haven't got the talent ie Wayne Rooney, terry Ect you aren't going to get in a Chelsea side there's a big step up for being a championship player than a premiership player there's only going to be 1 out of the 10 youth team players if 1 that are going to be gud enough or near good enough. Take josh was in the first team for abit did well they sent him on loan I like him but don't think he's world class and roman wants the best so don't think he will make it ( my opinion) hope he proves me wrong. Mourinho is the best manager in the world for me ferguson couldn't leave united now and do what he done in Spain, Italy, say mourinho goes to city we get klopp he uses youth At Chelsea mourinho does his thing plays his way buys his players I would put money on it we would be behind mourinho every year. The youth in lukaku hazard mata Oscar is what will win us things

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02 May 2013 15:24:43
Melbourne CFC.
No dude. I watch lot of football. and I like chelsea. some execptional players you have got. let me admit. also. If not you who else would have beaten UTD. so respect.
BUt my point stands still, Klopp would be excellent for you because you need a proper Manager who can stick with you for years.
Dortumand is a power house, wonder where they get their star players.
Do you honestly believe Jose would stick with you for years?. no ways. absolutly no ways.
I alos like AVB, young manager with a point to prove and vision. should have stick with him

there is nothing part time or full time, last night I was watching one of the best CL game in recent times. a good football lover openly crticizes and accept the best oppostion and players.

simple

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Hi there totally get where your coming from but you not going to get time at Chelsea being a manager at Chelsea is hard its a (results business ) you haven't got time not saying that's the rite way but its Romans way, and don't bite the hand that feeds u. Mourinho left last time I think or what I can make out because there were people other than him making decisions. Maybe just maybe he may of stayed longer than he did if it was sorted. So I think again ( my opinion) if roman sorts out the problems they had last time maybe he may be here alittle longer than people are taking about, ok Italy he didn't take to Spain didn't take to him but England love him and most Chelsea fans love him and he loves Chelsea. And why wouldn't u want to manage in the best league in the world. Also I get your point about klopp and AVB but Dortmund are in the champions league final, klopp the manager but I assume at least 5 to 6 are leaving if so great why leave if your in a great team with agreat manager u should be happy look at the Milan side when Jose left and frank John drog when Jose left he's just got something other mangers havent

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One only needs to look at the people who worked with Jose and where they are now. All of them have gone on to be good/great mangers. AVB, Steve Clarke, Brendan Rodgers have all learnt from him and gone on to achieve success as managers. It's clear that he's a great manager.

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03 May 2013 00:53:18
But One only needs to look how much he spents to win trophys for 2-3 years then jumps the ship, when he jumps the ship the damage he brings very few teams have recovered!

He is a manager who goes to clubs which have money to spent and in 3 years when money is dried or his boring tactics are worked out he quickly jumps the ship!

I doubt mourinho can win titles with the same squad which rafa manages without spending massively and chelsea sacrificing their future talents, in short he is a manager who uses money to paper over the cracks instead of building teams to continue suiccess for long term, in 3-4 years chelsea will be in same situation or worst when he leaves.

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The last comment makes no sense to me. Yes he spent a lot of money at Chelsea, but that was because when he joined us we'd just been bought by Abramovich and we were trying to become a team challenging for titles. After he left we didn't go downhill. In fact the team he built has lasted 4-5 years after he left. We've been constantly competing for both domestic and foreign titles and it's only been in the last 2 years when the core of our team has gotten older than we've dropped off the pace a bit.
Inter Milan were already an aged squad so their decline was obvious from the start. It was one last hurrah for them to win the treble as it was with Drogba and co to win the Champions league.
Real Madrid spend massive amounts of money regardless of who's in charge. Perez ushered in an era of the Galaticos and that's not Mourinho's fault.
Yes he doesn't build for the future necessarily but that's usually because he take's over teams that require an immediate boost as they're falling behind their rivals. Not to mention he's only there for the short term and therefore longterm what does he care?
Personally I don't think he'll continue to switch jobs every 3-4 years as he's getting older and i'm sure his family want to settle down properly.
If he were to come, I do envision us spending a lot of money but we're trying to overhaul our aging squad and need probably at least 3 players still to do so.

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