Chelsea Banter Archive January 02 2015

02 Jan 2015 18:10:43
Just a thought, perhaps we should give spuds some credit for the way they played against us. I know it goes against the grain, but there manager had obviously done his homework.

Even with my post below I do agree, Spurs played well - Kane looks a good player but you can't say that that isn't the worst you have seen Chelsea play in a long time. at least 2 of the goals and the penalty were caused by sloppy bad defending and I don't even mean poor defending or mistakes, I am tired sloppy play (for example, I don't know what Oscar was trying to do for the first goal). I think that the result was more about how poor we were rather than how good they were. Even still, they got the 3 points and fair play.

Mourinho needs to decide what do do - recruit or promote youth, if he doesn't trust our squad players. It just looked shell shocked.

They played very well. Kane in particular

I've wrote about Kane before-impressive! He has 17 goals up to now not to mention the way he is playing!! Hazard is improving slower season after season but Kane his improvement in six months is astonishing!!
Spuds had seven shots on goal six on target and they've scored five goals! I really feel bad when I recall what our players have missed!

I wonder what happened, he just looks a completely different player!!

'Spuds some credit'? No, shan't!

02 Jan 2015 13:53:53
Hi guys would anyone be able to tell me which manager it was that signed Azpi?
Thanks

02 Jan 2015 14:16:02
RDM. Low key signing considering he came in the same window we bought hazard and Oscar. Look at him now though.

Thanks Tk, thought it was Benitez but then he wasn't in charge over the summer window

Had diddly squat to do with RDM was a board decision.

A measly 7 million too it was reported. Considering united payed 30 million for Luke Shaw.

02 Jan 2015 12:43:41
Hey Ed002, why can't I see any of my posts, did I say something I wasn't suppose too? Anyways happy new year to you and all the Eds. And to my fellow blues.

{Ed002's Note - Try the Other page.}

02 Jan 2015 10:52:52
Not happy at all with how things went yesterday in terms of defending, but I wanted to focus in on a positive which nobody really has talked much about this season - the development of Hazard. I feel that he's now developing that final product to add to his mesmerising runs, something which we were all crying out for last season. that's now 11 goals and 10 assists all competitions, a decent goal tally for a wide player and considering he only managed 17 all last season. I think part of this development has come from Mourinho himself, but also from the introduction of two world class players alongside him - Fabregas and Costa. For anyone who watched yesterday's game you would have seen a spectacular performance from Hazard, who certainly didn't deserve to be on the losing side, and he nearly single handedly rescued a point for us. Right now he is not far off the standard of Messi in terms of dribbling, and we said last season that all he really needed to add was that final product, well it seems now that he's starting to produce. At 23 years old I believe the standard of Messi/Ronaldo is not a long way off.

It's nice to silence some of the critics of him at the start of season, this guy is so talented it's unreal & it's really starting to show now, every time he gets the ball he makes things happen & as say juventa he's got that final product, matic did have a poor game yesterday he looked knackered & fabregas defensively was poor in general, I thought we would of gone with mikel next to matic & fab playing higher as we were away & needed points but we should kick on now & stop being complacent giving average teams far too much respect!

Good post! HAZARD Was truly special.

Agree with Juventa and situation. Some people on here are quick to jûmp on Eden's case, to me he is top ten n the world if not top five watching him yesterday made me really happy after a rather dismal day. his desire to get something out of the game having already played four games in the space of 12 days was something really special.
For me what we need is someone with a hit more physical presence to sit with Matic kinda like an Essien type player, I know getting Pogba won't be easy maybe we should just pay what Juve want? Really believe he is the last piece of the puzzle we could go strong with little purchases every summer and have one of the best elevens ever with youth players and maybe one or two inclusions every summer without spending too much.

We are almost there but I think we just lack that little bit extra to match the likes of Madrid and bayern. Like Aron said Koke and Martinez wouldn't be bad back up options but we should really do all we can to get Pogba. Even if it means selling Oscar.

Hazard has been playing at a very high level the last few weeks. We have to cherish the fact that he plays for us.
I agree with ELI, in that I'd like to see us pay what Juve wants. Fund the move by selling some players like Ramires, Mikel, Romeu etc. He'd make our midfield BEAST!

Guys while I agree he is devolving to an amazing player his performance yesterday was 50/50 the first half he was non existent the second half he was amazing just annoys me.

02 Jan 2015 13:27:18
I have told this from the start of my posting career that hazard is the best player we have in the team. Not really impressed with costa recently, don't really know what's wrong with remy but I would like him to be playing much more.

02 Jan 2015 14:14:13
Agreed about Remy, complete waste of talent. He is a goalscorer, needs to be given a chance.

I think there may be a little more to it than just spend the money they want. I hope we do though. Pogba and varane in te sqaud for a further 10 years with courtois in goal for 10 years. Future would be bright (still is tho)

Can't understand why Remy is not getting a look in. It is frankly ridiculous.

Fielding the same 11 week in week out will not go well, just ask Sean Dyche, 3 injuries in one game before the 60 minute mark, may not be related but he too, feilded the same 11 week in week out.

I love Hazard, he really is improving.

02 Jan 2015 05:53:43
Ed001, what do you make of us so far? If you haven't got time, Don't worry about it, but would love to know what you think is wrong with us so far.

{Ed001's Note - there is nothing actually wrong, it is just the Jose is far too happy to shut up shop, when Chelsea need to push on and just keep going. Chelsea are a class above every team in the Prem, bar Man City, they should be working on creating an unmatchable goal difference to make sure City can't get at them. The only other thing that could be seen as a worry is the lack of chances for the youth players. Kalas should have been getting regular footie with you this season, Terry should be getting regular rest periods to keep him fresh. This is the perfect time to blood the young defenders, but instead Kalas is out on loan.}

Ed, spot on mate. Think I agree with you on all parts.
I want Zouma to start more games. Spurs scoring 5 is unacceptable. I didn't see the last 2 goals but it just can't happen.
Ivanovic was getting owned in the first half by Chadli, it's strange that he's declined in his defensive game. I also stand by my opinion that Cahill is not starter material for us. He'd be an excellent rotational player for us but our starter should be more secure. The way he gave the penalty away was very disappointing. So slow to react.
Please Jose, give Zouma some chances. The guy deserves it. If our defense was solid as it used to be then I wouldn't be moaning. But conceding 5 in one game is simply too much.

And Remy deserves a chance, what does the guy have to do to get some minutes.

{Ed001's Note - Zouma! That was the other lad I was trying to think of. I couldn't for the life of me remember his name then when I was typing that.

I have never been a fan of Ivanovic, aerially exceptional, quick and strong, but I don't rate him on the ball, and his positioning has always been suspect. However you can't have 11 of the best in their position at any one club, you need players like Ivanovic, who will give their heart and soul in every game. They provide a platform for the likes of Hazard to play from. For me though, you have a better right back playing at left back most weeks, one who also gives his all. I am with you, Ivanovic should be on the bench or covering for injuries, loss of form or just if someone needs a rest. If Luis had settled in quickly, I am sure Ivanovic would be playing less.}

Ivanovic gets caught out of position far too often, Cahill has made too many errors recently and Terry needs someone with pace next to him. I'm surprised Kalas was loaned out this season. He played at right back as well as centre back for Vitesse, so that would have given us an option.

Agree with what you ed001 have said, aswell as Jackson and Bruce. Good posts :) Ivanovic is fine imo, but he's trying to replicate dani alves, who was never all that good imo.

Kalas and Zouma are both great players, and deserve chances!

Aron, I don't think it's Ivanovic trying to replicate Dani Alves. it's the system we play which means our right-back is more often than not the outlet going forward. If we continue to play that system and we don't make any signings, I'd rather Azpilicueta played there tbh.

Bruce has hit the nail on the head - JT has always needed a quick central defender beside him and Cahill is not quick enough. We need to give Zouma a run in the team.