Chelsea Banter Archive July 29 2011

29 Jul 2011 17:38:47
Suppose any team in england sign teenagers from south america or europe. during there stay in england, they fall in love and get married to an british national. After few years they could also become british nationals. So that player would be called a HOME GROWN or English player. please give me reply. It has happened in cricket. When ex-pakistan off spinner saqlain mushtaq married a british lady while playing county and after he got british nationality, his name was touted as part of english tea.

They don't need British nationality they just need to play in the league for a few years before they reach 21 {Ed02's Note - They need to play in England or Wales for three complete seasons before the end of the seasons which begins in the year they are 21. There is no need to fall in love or get married.}

29 Jul 2011 19:44:50
Apprently Liverpool also have an interest in A. Johnson, but nothing is really that clear yet. Would be a great signing for Chelsea.

29 Jul 2011 18:51:27
Given our record with big signings recently, I am amazed people are so desperate for the club to spend £40m on Pastore.
Personally I am happier about the Oriol signing, in principle, if not from seeing him.

I agree, im very excited about his development at Chelsea, and having seen him a bit i think he can make an impact this season. A midfielder who can maintain possesion and defend hard (being able to play CB means he has a good defensive brain unlike other DMs around), will hopefully turn out to be a great chelsea player

29 Jul 2011 18:28:57
I wouldnt worry too much if we dont get Pastore, it would seem that most Argentinian footballers are pure mercaneries anyway just going for the big wages and not ambition. I think the guy we will eventually get is Moutinho whos been doing a sterling job for FC Porto and who the manager knows well. We dont want these guys who come to raise their profile then go to Madrid after a year or so.

29 Jul 2011 17:54:59
simple fact is yes we have an old squad and were everyone is pushing forward we seem to have stopped

van der wiel
lukalu
aguero
neymar
modric
pastore?

but we sign a few kids to loan bk out or to arrive later if this is progress and benayoun gets man of the match in the last friendly what a season we can look forward too (not)
1st man utd
2nd man city
3rd liverpool
4th chelsea
5th arsenal

I was actually pretty impressed with Benayoun in the last game, inventive, creative and good use of the ball. By far our most effective midfielder. He is a quality footballer and given the chance I think he can be a very useful squad member.

29 Jul 2011 17:43:41
PSG are playing in the Emirates Cup this week - ergo Pastore's representatives in London at the same time.

I've a feeling we won't get him and he'll be off to PSG with Leonardo in Lique 1 for 40 odd million Euros. Anyhows, he looks like he'd snap in a heavy wind I think he's too weak for the Prem at present.

Sneider and to a lesser extent Modric would've been more of a suitable buy IMHO.

Gettin a bit fed up of it all if truth be told but probly not half as cheesed off as some of the Eds.

We'll get there - but it's hard goin though
KTBFFH

29 Jul 2011 17:41:18
We are not completely reliant on foreign or average players in the premier, joining our club. Some of our youngsters have great potential:
Josh Mc,
Sturridge,
Van Arnholt,
Bertrand,
Rakovic (spelling),
Kakuta,
Chabolah,
If we find the right player & the right price, willing to be paid, the going rate for his services, then fair enough buy him. But being held to ransom by some primma donner has never worked in the past, so why would it work now. At least our youngsters have the right attitude.

29 Jul 2011 17:22:39
i cant understand why so many people want malouda to move on........if seen a lot of people say it on here and on other forums, yet the same people are crying out for us to buy new wingers, the man has an excellent season with us, fair enough he sufferd a dip in form but so did the whole team, i sometimes think people excpect us to spend money for no reason more than we have it, or just for the excitment of it, players such as malouda, lampard, terry, cech, torres, cole need to stay, call it our core players, we need more creativity in the centre of the park......pastore would be ideal but if the lads more intrested in money then leave him off to PSG we will survive, modric would be a better target as he has experiance in the PL an has also expressed a strong desire to play for us altho 30+mill is excessive, i prefer the idea of giving the youngsters a go after all what are they there for?? sturridge is a fabulous prospect he needs game time, whats the point bringing in 30-40mil strikers? we have a nice blend of young and old (drogs, torres, sturridge) realistically we need a creative midfielder, right/ winger/foward and maybe a young right back, after all remember the form of bosingwa before the long lay off? phenomanal myself the ideal targets would be as follows

luka modric-(maybe not worth 30+mill tho)

eden hazard-(i know he is more a left wing than right but he can play in the centre aswell as both flanks so he is universal and extreamly creative)

Miralem Pjanic-(hardworking attacking midfielder plays for lyon in france)

a young right sided defender is a tricky one there isnt a major list of young talented play out there, one player i liked was sebastien corchia who was untill last month at le mans in the french second tier, an excellent attacking wingback much like bosingwa, in regard to whats available i think we would be better of to stick with bosingwa/ivanovic at a puch tho prehaps Darijo Srna of shaktar donetsk would be a good target


we have the lad van arnholt to cover the left side which david luiz can play also if needs be, centre back were ok i think terry, luiz, ivanovic, alex(if he stays), rajkovic(pending work permit), kalas again a nice blend of young and old, just add two or three midfielders at the most and we will be ok.......i think this could be the season for the younger players to push on under AVB cant wait for the season to begin CAREFREE........

PS if you havent got bored of this essay yet thank you for reading lol:-)

also ED could you tell me if the transfer of romeu oriel is completed yet or are we still negotiating with the lad? thanks {Ed018's Note - he is in Columbia but from my understanding Chelsea is sending someone there for his medical}

29 Jul 2011 17:14:55
Chelsea Squad
Cech
Ivanovic Terry Alex Cole
Luiz
Ramires Lampard
Pastore(I hope)
Drogba Torres


Give Drogba and Torres few games together they will gel eventually

29 Jul 2011 16:05:35
people putting starting 11's with 4 -5 new players in are fools stokes in two weeks lets be realistic we should be hopefull of one

cech

ivanovic luiz terry cole

ramires

lampard malouda

sturridge torres kalou


if patores there to replace kalou or malouda then well be lucky

29 Jul 2011 15:32:06
I dont know why the eds even bother to answer any questions at all ... they arent saying anything new here lol xxx (ps : ed i love you really you grumpy twxt)

29 Jul 2011 14:25:11
AVB: "Nicolas, Florent, John Obi, Salo, Yuri come into my office for a second"
The players: "Whats wrong boss?"
AVB: "Everyone at CFC is gratfeul for what you have done for the club but we no longer beleive you fit the bill for what we are looking for, so you are all welcome to leave if a club comes in for you, we will be buying new players and they will take your places, so if you have not left by the start of the season then you will not be included in the preliminary 25 man squad and will end up playing reserve football all season. We appreciate this will cost the club alot of money but it will be worth it for the fans to enjoy watching us play again. All the best. Oh Florent tell your best buddy Didier that he will most likely spend most of the time on the bench this season due to Nando being our main striker."

AVB (on the phone to RA): "Hey Roman i've told the players they can leave so now we can start buying some more, put a bid of £45 million in for Tevez, £15 million for Mata, £12 million for Johnson and £30 million for Hazard. Cheers Boss."

Too simple??

29 Jul 2011 14:16:24
PASTORE REFUSES PSG

29 Jul 2011 14:07:46
Ed, I am seriously concerned about Chelsea. If we miss out on Pastore then I think we can honestly say that we have got major issues...
I admire Chelsea for trying to reduce wage bill but we are missing out on all the best players and even when players like Mata and Lukaku come along with lower wage demands and lower transfer fees we still mess around.
We need two decent wingers, a creative and a holding midfielder. Plus a striker and we need to clear out a load of old players...
Do you have any insight on what I going on?
If AVB doesn't get his act together then I will have to agree with Desailly as you already get the feeling AVB just doesn't have the balls to get rid of people like Malouda and Drogba.
AVB will be gone by Christmas with this squad and Torres won't get a look in

29 Jul 2011 11:56:08
On reflection, I wonder if a strategy of not signing expensive, established stars this year, accepting that we will not win the Prem/CL and instead focusing on younger players makes sense. This way, at least we get the benefit of the older players guiding them. A risky game though as we still need to finish top 3.
Probably the rebuilding job that Carlo should have focused on.

And you think Roman would accept that?

29 Jul 2011 01:31:46
If Pastore has any ambition and belief in himself then he will choose to play in the PL.

True Blue

Agree 100%, but no doubt he will take the money and the easy life in a poor french league and in 2 years seal a "dream" move to Barca or Madrid.