Chelsea Banter Archive October 28 2012
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28 Oct 2012 22:21:21
Have to say for a fan that goes to almost every home game the atmpshere was incredible today! Don't really want to blab on about the referee and linesman (we all share an opinion on them!) , so I won't.
What a performance. Other than the first fifteen minutes we completely outclassed United, and if no-one got sent off we could have seriously embarrased them in the last half hour. Our attitude, work rate, spirit and character is just class. On this performance we're the team to beat and fairly not like today. Cant' wait till Wednesday, we'll show 'em! Up the Blues!
LF07
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Absolutely mate, spot on! The atmosphere was superb!
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Clattenberg is absolute disgrace and embarrassment. He gave his usual "I want to be the star of the show" performance. Unfortunately it cost us 3 points. No issue with Ivan's red but Torre's was insane. Sad part was if you look at replay he was right there and still blew the call. It's sad as they want to hold players accountable and that's great but until refs are held to same level the gong shows will continue. The fact this ref suffers no consequences is a disgrace. He himself should be missing some games and put under further review.
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28 Oct 2012 22:32:24
Also who noticed Shrek's shove on Ramires when he broke away? That is a blatant shove and a foul worthy of a yellow card. Which would have totted up to a red. But Clattenburg failed to spot that. Conveniently it was stopped so Whisky-nose could substitute on Hernandez. But Rooney should have been off. With the Torres foul, he was sent off for being fouled. Didn't realise the rulebook had been ammended to suit whisky and co. again. And conveniently, this stopped us bringing on Sturridge earlier. Valencia's simulation warranty a real booking. Same with Van Pussy's simulation, when Cahill fouled him i was looking forward to seeing him injured.
Keep the faith lads, still top of the league!
Carefree&Celery
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28 Oct 2012 21:25:06
Clattenburg is the new Howard Webb
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28 Oct 2012 21:24:37
I don't know how we didn't get more players sent off towards the end. My head had completely gone just watching it. If i was playing i don't think i could have stopped myself from putting one on Clattenberg, or at least saying something along the lines of "You Cheating Pr*ck, you're an embarrassment". They did well to keep their heads and stay on the pitch.
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Ashley Cole and Luiz did! In the last fifteen they were tearing around the pitch diving in all time, have to say I was loving it!
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28 Oct 2012 21:23:06
clattenburg should be thrown off the referees list after that performance today what a useless fool the man is he ruined a very good football match which we would have won without doubt the fa really do have to take action against this waste of space called clattenburg. rant over IANCFCFOREVER
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He only got two things wrong booking Torres for diving and booking valencia for diving
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28 Oct 2012 21:20:31
Well, we lost and it hurts but we remain Chelsea - the better team. Our lads showed courage and class. Except for a few individual errors, all our lads showed the character of champions. Hopefully, we'll sort a few things out, get to see more of Azpilicueta and Sturidge. Finally, I'm loving every moment of our play, the support from the fans is also great. We are champions, we'll fight till the end, we'll rule again.
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28 Oct 2012 21:19:49
As soon as I saw it was Mark clondike burg officiating I knew there was going to be controversy , he guy his the biggest clown around . Chelsea must complain about him , he costs us dearly today with his bias and poor display
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I fully agree, said samething myself. This ref only interested in being the star of the show!! He barely ever refs a game where there is not some sort of major controversy. Until refs are held accountable for their performances the gong show will continue. Sad however when it could cost teams the championsip.
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28 Oct 2012 21:54:05
Does anyone know the if Juan mata has a chant? If so what is it? If not what should it be?
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28 Oct 2012 21:53:32
does anyone know who was offended by the ref?
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Mikel and one of the spanish players
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On a websitenews they said they were two black players.
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28 Oct 2012 20:57:19
With it being the Capital Cup this week I would like to see the following changes, Cole, Mikel, Oscar, Mata, Torres Rested, And Bertand, Ceaser, Romeu, Marin, Moses given a run out.
One Bomb Tom
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Go further. Cech, Hazard, Luiz, Ramires...they all need a rest. I think we should rest as many of our senior players as possible and play almost entirely young second team as we have far more important games to worry about in near futre than the Capital One Cup.
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Torres is banned anyways
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Id go with
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Lampard*Romeu
Moses*Piazon*Marin
Bamford
WelshBlue
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Not realistic, Bamford has no chance of starting, I would almost say the same for Ferreria + Saville.
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28 Oct 2012 20:46:29
Forest fan here.Idisagree with the other poster about Ibranovic's sending off.I think Young was l;ooking to go down the second he got the ball.Your player tried not to touch him and Youngs felt a slight touch and thrown himself to the ground.Remember he's got a reputationfor it.No different to Torres incident for me.Clattenburg is awful and I knew he would ruin the game,there was only 1 team going to win it til he intervened.Think you miss JT marshalling the back 4 though.Good luck,I hope you stop those cheating from winning it {Ed018's Note - you could tell on the replay he was already losing his balance and Ivanovic looked like he was trying to get out of the way of making any contact.}
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28 Oct 2012 20:31:59
Falcao has 17 goals in 11 appearances! 60m buy out clause
Just throwing it out there
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28 Oct 2012 20:27:02
Right here comes my rant lads.
Torres. I have defended him for long enough but if his performances like that are going to cost us big games like that then I hope hes gone by January. He didn't seem to work for the team. His pace, confidence and dribbling were non existent. There was one incident where he took the ball on his chest and just booted it over to the right flank where no one was waiting to pick it up and eventually it was intercepted. All of the Torres defenders will say that 'Torres and Hazard weren't on the same wavelength that's all', but I couldn't see how Torres was in touch of the game all the way throughout. Nobody can say that El Nino didn't have a chance to influence the game because the midfield maestros tried to get him involved in the game as much as they could. Maybe the red card was debatable but to be honest I was glad he was sent off because I think he ruined the game for us in a way. He was completely outshone by a boy half of his price tag. Don't get me wrong I would love him to hit some blistering form and score week in week out but if by January he isn't performing then I hope he gets the cut and we bring in a man by the name of Radamel Falcao...........Now I know that half of you guys will say 'why waste another 50mil on a striker who could possibly flop'. But I say to that 'Falcao WILL perform on any stage, in any league because he is that kind of striker'. He would be way better than Torres because he has crisper movement, better finishing and most importantly CONFIDENCE.
Now the game.........Of course the ref was on United's side. I think Iva deserved to be sent off in all fairness but Ashley Young definitely made the most of it. FT9 was a controversial decision. There was contact. People will say that the ball was away from him but I think he would've gotten to the end of it. And of course that little pea headed **** (sorry ed) was offside for his goal. Clattenburg is a complete dick.
Positives- We went down 2-0 in the first 15 minutes and came back roaring, and, if we had all 11 men, we would've beat the persons. The 3 midfielders were again inspirational........already love them. And finally we are still a point above both Manchester clubs which is a huge morale boost.
See guys it wasn't all that bad.
I'd just like to apologise to Ed for all the swearing but this match reallt P'd me off.
Thoughts
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Sorry mate, I don't agree with what you say about Torres. He was better today and would have scored, if it wasn't for a world class save from De Gea. He also played three crosses in to Oscar.
Also you need a sign off.
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He might have scored if hed stayed on his feet instead of diving,need better than what he gives asap.
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He also should have had an assist, he set Mata up for a sitter.
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28 Oct 2012 20:23:54
What happened with mark the tit clatenberg swearing at Chelsea players!
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28 Oct 2012 19:58:01
Just posted a pic on dodgy sighting lol of fergie n a certain someone hope it comes up
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28 Oct 2012 19:54:34
Can you chelsea fans remember Drogba scoring against united when he was a yard offside which resulted in you winning the league.
So i suppose you must have bought the ref that day !
Officials make mistakes get over it
Marky Mark
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Was that when macheada put the ball in the net with his hand,so we would have won 1.0 anyway.
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Right officials do make mistake any one remember spurs goal at Old Trafford that was kicked back out and given a goal kick ? Hmmm a pattern forming here me thinks marky nark
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28 Oct 2012 19:46:28
I just don't know what to say. I feel completely flabbergasted we what happened today. As I watched it, I actually thought that Clattenberg was doing it on purpose, and that they weren't mistakes. The FA need to sort this out, poor officiating seems to be occurring a lot nowadays. David Gill should not be allowed to be the Vice-Chairman of the FA board, its just pathetic and ridiculous.
But we're still top, we're Champions of Europe and I honestly think we'll win the league this year!
PR!
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The fa will do nothing as every game utd play, the decisions that change matches always go their way. m.u.f.a....simple
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28 Oct 2012 19:44:04
Roan
I have just read your post from today-are you sure you are not a scouser because you sound as bitter and twisted as most of them.
Marky Mark
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Calm down
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28 Oct 2012 19:21:03
Corruption=Ferguson
roan
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28 Oct 2012 19:19:39
We know what we we know what we are champions of Europe we know what we are
CFC
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28 Oct 2012 19:04:08
Just wondering at what point man u wil get investigated for their relationship with officials, its just too ovious to be over looked. If it was in italy man u would av been in the lower leagues by now. I av never been happier this season with the spirit of the team, d figthing spirit was authoritative. Even some of my united friends werent happy with d officiating. Please for those of u who have slated mikel frm today pls show some respect for his relentless work. Just wouldnt want a repeat of this kind of officiating ever again in this exciting league
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Yes, I think Mikel showed huge courage and determination today, as he did for the European CL final. We were beaten because of one atrocious decison -- to book Torres for a dive -- and failure of linesman to spot Hernandez in off side position when pass first made. That £$*! Little Pea is always offside. What Berkshire Bankers, him, the ref, the linesman and nasty Van P. VBS
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Unlucky boy's, now you know how us reds feel with officials decisions, it's getting out of hand Man United need investigating and Mark Clattenberg needs to get the Axe.
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The simple fact is that the fa want man u to succeed and hire david gill in a key role is shocking how can u have an impartial Football Association when members of that board are also executives at Manchester United this is like the most corrupt league in the world now every week u see man u get offside goals dodgy decisions pens red cads all go there way this really does need to be lucked in to am shore if a few teams said they will form there own league would soon put a stop to this
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28 Oct 2012 18:45:29
Unlucky boys. Typical Man Utd display with shocking referee decisions cos Old Whiskey Nose had done his usual back hander before the game. You were robbed like we are most seasons when playing them. Keep you chins up & hopefully get revenge at Mould Gashford when you play them. We were on the wrong end of the linesman's dodgy decision today. What a coincidence it was Taggart's Lap Dog - Moyes who was influencing them!
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Damn right ScouseRED. Suarez was clearly onside and hernandez wasn't as usual and Man U get the GOAL. Officials just seem to be getting worse and worse, i think many of them should get the CHOP, if we behaved like many of them do in our jobs we'd have gotten the sack by now RIGHT.
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28 Oct 2012 18:39:39
Heads held high
sweat on the brows
we came off the pitch
we know who was better
...who had guts and heart
we know who we are
ONE LIFE
ONE LOVE
ONE CLUB
CHELSEA FC forever
taby
ps-is there a complaint box at the fa's headquarters?
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28 Oct 2012 18:32:55
liverpool fan here...absolutely gutted for what happened to chelsea today...refree totally killed the game when it looked like you guys may have got win...how can torres be red carded only refree and FA(fergay association) knows...how was hernandez not offside only linesmen knows...his goal was not offside but suarez's goal was....you guys deserved more....really hope they don't win the league title..they don't deserve it...best of luck for the capital one cup..hope u guys batter them..
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28 Oct 2012 18:25:06
WHAT A F##KING JOKE!!
That game was an embarrassment for the officials, f**king embarrassment! If United think their gonna win the league then they are deluded, they are miles off us. Without the decisions we would have won that game by a couple of goals, we were dominating them and their only hope was RVP. They caught us cold for the first 25 mins, after that they had nothing. David Luiz once again showed how much heart he's got, i don't care if he was caught out of position today a few times, he never stopped and still beleived we could get a result with 9 men. The commentator said near the end that credit to United for exploiting us after the sendings off. He must be having a laugh because they only just beat us, and that was with an offside goal!
Putting aside the result, theres a few positives that have come out of today.
1 - We are 100% capable of winning the league.
2 - We will get to see Sturridge and Cesar get a run.
3 - We've shown that even without Didier, Lamps and JT, we still have plenty of heart when things go against us, we don't shrink away.
4 - We're much better than United.
5 - When things like this happen to Chelsea we always come together and come out fighting.
Once things have settled, putting the result aside, i know which supporters should be the happiest. And its not the ones supporting the team who's manager has the referees bo**ocks in his hand.
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Ummm, dominating? We're you asleep during the first 38mins? 7mins at the end of the first half and about 10 at the start of second. Defensively you looked shocking , first red card was a definite , Torres prob not worthy of a sending off and Hernandez goal offside but had he not been given that do you honestly believe utd would not have pushed for that goal given we were against 9 men. At 3-2 utd needed to do no more. Honestly it's astounding how one sided fans get. Richly - swindon fan (unfortunately)
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Honestly, how cheap can Man u supporters get?i
Prime example :YOU.
How much did brainless Fergie give you?
2 pounds or even less.
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What game was you watching? Chelsea clearly had more possession and had more shots than united before Ivan and Torres got sent off...
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We had 52% possession according to the BBC Sport Website.
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Before we they red cards shot on goals was, Chelsea 14 - 4 United. dont come and say united would have won....
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Hes clearly a man u fan. you say your swindon fan but you refer to man u as "we".
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28 Oct 2012 18:27:27
nice too see the premier leagues still run by fergies bribes!!
i can maybe understand the ivanovic sending off it was last and and clatternburg didnt have the greatest view he was behind them both so many ref's would of given it
as for torres going over evans i have nothing too say about that and a blind man without his guide dog could see hernandez was offside
30th minute onwards we absolutely bossed that game and even down too 9 men we didnt look like struggleing too badly
shocking referring but on the bright side azpil and sturridge get a chance now and even with 9 men we could still hold our own in a sense, still top of the league and by far the best team in the league this year
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28 Oct 2012 18:21:24
Wow Chelsea fans at game today amazing, 2 red cards 2-0 down an offside goal and we carried on fighting and fans didn't stop singing. Well done, stuff of champion
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28 Oct 2012 18:13:01
Wow, didn't know United signed Clattenburg in the summer
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They just renewed howard webbs contract aswell.
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28 Oct 2012 18:11:04
Apart from the refree was a disgrace and had red glasses on. I was appalled how Mikel just was walking back and looking RVP scoring the goal, he could have been standing infront of RVp and avoided the goal if he wanted, i hope he gets benched and Luiz aswell...
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28 Oct 2012 19:42:18
oh shut up!!
iv slated mikel enough times but he was one of the harder working players please dont comment again
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And luiz get benched? who we gonna have to replace him? terry? ivanovic?
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28 Oct 2012 18:08:38
Something has got to be done about this. They did the same against Liverpool. There was no way that the FA was going to let Chelsea be ahead with 7 points. We got so robbed. If I was a Man U fan right now, I would feel ashamed. You can't do it on your own, you have to have help from the refs?
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28 Oct 2012 18:07:25
This has happened twice in two years.Last year penalties,this year sending offs.Wonder whats next year.The players in blue were magnificent,each one off them.
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28 Oct 2012 18:06:59
Wow. I just wow. Clattenburg is a disgrace! How was that a sending off for Torres! That official completely ruined a fantastic open game. Hernandez's goal was offside! He was behind Czech! You can't get anymore offside then that unless your playing from the stands. Unbelievable. We could have won that game very easily and we didn't because of deplorable officiating. I'm completely disgusted. Proud of our team for never giving up though that has to be said. We never hung our heads and still tried to attack. We need to just brush this one off and come back strong next weekend.
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28 Oct 2012 18:01:44
First half an hour or so we have to admit we were absolutly rubbishe, but what a come back and we were robbed in the end have to say the ref was a disgrace! ivan's red card I can understand but Torres ? and 3rd goal was clearly offside !
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28 Oct 2012 18:01:28
Van Persie is an absolute disgrace .What a disgraceful player!What a disgraceful team.Than god he is not at Chelsea.
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28 Oct 2012 17:56:02
We know what we are,
We know what we are,
Top of the league!
We know what we are!
Hopefully Clattenburg's license will be revoked after today, that level of officiating shouldn't grace a Sunday pub match.
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28 Oct 2012 17:51:33
we dont need to sign falcao next transfer window, we need to sign a referee.
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Problem is that Fergie already has almost all of them in his pocket
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28 Oct 2012 17:49:31
Cheats absolute CHEATS!
roan
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Yes its a disgrace and even if i take my blue glasses off i still is.
Offside goal + a red card wrong... gg
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Who cheated?
I think Torres was unlucky but let's be honest he should have got a red for his tackle on Cleverly.
How can you dispute Ivanovic being sent off -he clipped youngs legs.
You were unlucky with the 3rd goal as it was offside.
But how you can call United cheats is beyond me.The officials make the decisions not United
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We call you cheats because you get fergie time, the fa is sleeping in your beds etc
ill let my fellow blues point out the other reasons
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But United decides the referee
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Marky Mark If Torres really wanted to foul Cleverly he would have been in the hospital.
Watch it again young dived before he brushed his leg against Ivan.You are not unlucky when you are getting robbed.
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28 Oct 2012 17:48:05
Not going to look for faults. Undone by a derisive standard of officiating today. That match would have been a draw or maybe a win for the blues with better officials. No luck all day on any accounts.
That my friends is a prime example of Fergie's power over officials in this league. He should go to the Serie A, this match-fixing business would suit him.
And Van Persie deserves a long ban for his simulation. Absolute disgrace.
CFCFOREVER!
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28 Oct 2012 17:56:40
Hang on a minute, this come from the same supporters who call us LFC supporters paranoid for pointing out the exact same thing? See the truth when it suits you eh...bad luck guys, I wanted you to win
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This come after you've earlier been denied a goal for a linesman's blatant incompetence.
Sad day for football when corruption rules everything.
EH17
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28 Oct 2012 17:47:01
I know that Man u are cheats ,but well this is something else they literally bought the ref today.How was Torres a sending off!.Young dived to send off Ivan.The goal was offside.They are a disgrace.
How in the world was Torres a sending off.JUST HOW!
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Young did not dive
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Their shoulders touched, he fell over then brushed his leg against Ivan's.
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28 Oct 2012 17:44:02
Absolutely disgusting
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28 Oct 2012 17:39:49
Blessing in disguse? Torres out ivo out, Ceaser in Sturidge in!
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What else to expect from a Man u supporter.
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Torres's red will be cleared
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I didn't think it could if its two yellows?
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Its true it cant
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28 Oct 2012 16:59:56
Well not an ideal start to the game but we looked really good going forward in the last 10-15 minutes of the half. We really had them up against the ropes during that time period. Only 1 goal down lads don't get to discouraged. I'm confident we can win if we track back better and close down United better in midfield and on the wings. WE KNOW WHO WE ARE!.......
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28 Oct 2012 16:58:13
I think azpi needs to come on,iva looks like he's lost.the second goal he left cahill for dead to mark two united players,he's been awful so far
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28 Oct 2012 16:57:58
Before everyone starts giving off, we're still in the game and should be level but the luck has not went our way. A very slack start. We need to be careful on the counter attack from them. I believe in the system and I'm not going to slate Mikel but for it to work we need another midfielder alongside Rameires with a similar style. Both midfielders need to have real pace to get back and that is Mikels real downfall which stops him from being top class at what he does and is needed to complete the team Keep supporting the lads
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28 Oct 2012 16:32:56
Get mikel off the pitch!
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Get mikel out of the squad/club/country!!
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28 Oct 2012 16:24:24
Luiz + Cahill = not good enough to win trophies
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Absolute mug. People like you make my blood boil.
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Cahill's kept us in the game with two world class blocks no ones getting back to help Romeu should replace Mikel to man mark Rooney and azpi for iva because he's struggling
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28 Oct 2012 16:18:17
Its been 20m were losing 2-0 and our striker is playing as a right winger.
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28 Oct 2012 16:17:15
Sort out it out! Two silly mistakes led to goals!
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28 Oct 2012 13:27:35
See we've been linked with Alan dzagoev. I think he is a brilliant player, but I'm sure he's only little? I know he can play centre mid but isn't he more of playmaker, attacker? BLUEBOY1
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28 Oct 2012 07:43:53
Just a header, man united are rubbishting themselves on their page, take a look :)
TORRES IS KING
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28 Oct 2012 01:45:20
Personally I think that Oscar should possibly be rested tomorrow as he's looking a bit tired and not used to playing as many games in such a small space of time. With Moses or possibly Marin starting in his place.
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