Chelsea Banter Archive November 27 2010

 

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27 Nov 2010 23:40:16

SHARKEY, I AM NOT SUGGESTING FOR ONE MOMENT THAT I AM INTELLIGENT AND YOU ARE NOT INTELLIGENT AS CLEARLY YOU ARE AN INTELLIGENT PERSON, I MEANT THE INTELLIGENT GUYS THAT I KNOW, WELL GUYS AND ONE YOUNG LADY. I GET MUCH OF MY INFORMATION THROUGH THEM, DON'T GET ME WRONG THEY DO NOT TELL THE WORLD WHAT THEY TALK ABOUT BUT IT CERTAINLY CONCERNS THEM.

I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT BUT SOMETIMES I GET THE FEELING YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS OKAY ALL OF THE TIME, THAT WE ARE NOT DESPERATELY TYING TO FIND SPONSORS, THAT WE ARE NOT TRYING TO DRASTICALLY REDUCE OUR WAGE BILL. IF YOU SAY YOU DO KNOW STUFF THEN HOW COME YOU DO NOT SHARE THE SAME CONCERNS AS MANY "INFORMED" CHELSEA FANS?

I GUESS WE WILL HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE, BUT I WANT TO CONFIRM AGAIN THAT I WAS NOT CALLING YOU A FOOL OR SAYING YOU WERE NOT INTELLIGENT.

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27 Nov 2010 23:08:26

{Editor's Note: You are suggesting that Sharkey would not know about this then. I am sure he will be willing to learn from "the intelligent".}

I KNOW SHARKEY IS INTELLIGENT, I WAS NOT SUGGESTING HE WASN'T, ITS JUST I HAVE CHELSEA MATES WHO ARE CLUELESS ABOUT OUR CLUB AND I HAVE OTHER MATES IN HIGHER PLACES (NOT WITHIN THE CLUB) BUT KNOW PEOPLE THAT KNOW PEOPLE THAT ARE WITHIN THE CLUB. THEY KNOW THEM AS THEY ARE IN SIMILAR LINES OF BUSINESS, THESE GUYS ARE THE ONE'S WHO TELL ME THINGS.

THAT'S WHAT I MEANT BY INTELLIGENT PEOPLE.

{Editor's Note: Now that is not entirely true is it? TRy and be honest.}

NO, YOU GOT ME, YOU ARE RIGHT I HAVE POSTED ON HERE BEFORE, ALTHOUGH NOT FOR A WHILE NOW.

HAS IT HAPPENS MY CAPS LOCK BUTTON IS BROKEN, ALONG WITH ONE OR TWO OTHER BUTTONS, THAT'S THE PROBLEM WHEN YOU HAVE KIDS, THEY TEND TO BREAK THINGS.

EDITOR DO YOU BELIEVE CHELSEA ARE NOT HAVING A CLEAR OUT? OR DO YOU THINK IT IS JUST COINCIDENCE?

{Editor's Note: The best answer to this has already come from Sharkey in respone to your accusation that Roman Abramovich has sacked seven members of staff:

Ray Wilkins went following a dispute with Ron Gourley - not with the owner.
Frank Arnesen has said that he will leave when his contract expires at the season - nothing to do with being "sacked" by the owner, just meeting his obligations.
Cole and Ballack did not have their contracts renewed when the expired - they did not get "sacked", although it would be fair to say that costs would have played a large part in their contracts not being renewed.
Belletti desired to leave the previous season but agreed to stay and saw out his contract with the club.
Deco and Carvalho expressed their wishes to leave the club and those wishes were granted - they were not "sacked" by the owner.

I concure with everything written by Sharkey. All of this ties in with my understanding of these matters.}

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27 Nov 2010 22:48:52
Unsigned, now taunting me with tales of conspiracies which can only been seen by "the intelligent" at 27 Nov 2010 22:30:25:

>>"he was lying or this is part of a conspiracy"

>>YES! YOU ARE LEARNING FAST. FRANK WAS NOT
>>OFFERED A NEW CONTRACT AND WAS TOLD HE
>>WILL NOT BE OFFERED ONE. FRANK DECIDED TO
>>CALL IT "SEARCHING FOR A NEW CHALLENGE" BUT
>>THE INTELLIGENT KNOW OTHERWISE.

Fantastic stuff. Will the Intelligent Ones share their wisdom with us?

>>I GUESS ITS JUST COINCIDENCE RAY & NOW
>>FRANK ARE GONE, WHEN BOTH WERE IN THE
>>MIDDLE OF CONTRACT TALKS. SO SO SO NAIVE!

Ok, I must be terribly naive. But you, Oh Intelligent Master, need to know that Meneer Arnesen has not yet gone.

>>THIS IS MY THIRD EVER POST POSTED ON
>>THIS SITE.

>>{Editor's Note: Now that is not entirely true is
>>it? Try and be honest.}

Oh dear, Mighty Intelligent One, caught telling lies.

>>THERE ARE SOME HUGE FINANCIAL CUT DOWNS
>>GOING ON AT CHELSEA AND FRANK & RAY ARE
>>CASUALTIES OF THIS. YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU
>>THINK OTHERWISE.

>>BUT HEY, LETS ALL BURY OUR HEADS IN THE
>>SAND LIKE YOU AND PRETEND EVERYTHING
>>AT OUR CLUB IS HUNKY DORY.

The difference appears to be that I am a fool, as you say, but informed about these matters, and you, Wonderous Intelligent One, are neither informed or, seemingly, capable of telling the truth.

Sharkey.
Just Plain Simple Folk

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27 Nov 2010 22:30:25

"he was lying or this is part of a conspiracy"

YES! YOU ARE LEARNING FAST. FRANK WAS NOT OFFERED A NEW CONTRACT AND WAS TOLD HE WILL NOT BE OFFERED ONE. FRANK DECIDED TO CALL IT "SEARCHING FOR A NEW CHALLENGE" BUT THE INTELLIGENT KNOW OTHERWISE.

{Editor's Note: You are suggesting that Sharkey would not know about this then. I am sure he will be willing to learn from "the intelligent".}

I GUESS ITS JUST COINCIDENCE RAY & NOW FRANK ARE GONE, WHEN BOTH WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF CONTRACT TALKS. SO SO SO NAIVE!

"You do nothing but repeatedly unwind with the same constant bleating and scaremongering story. It is ill informed and tedious."

STRANGE THAT, ESPECIALLY AS THIS IS MY THIRD EVER POST POSTED ON THIS SITE.

{Editor's Note: Now that is not entirely true is it? TRy and be honest.}

THERE ARE SOME HUGE FINANCIAL CUT DOWNS GOING ON AT CHELSEA AND FRANK & RAY ARE CASUALTIES OF THIS. YOU ARE A FOOL IF YOU THINK OTHERWISE.

BUT HEY, LETS ALL BURY OUR HEADS IN THE SAND LIKE YOU AND PRETEND EVERYTHING AT OUR CLUB IS HUNKY DORY.

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27 Nov 2010 21:20:45
Unsigned, now with a broken keyboard continues his scaremongering of the Chelsea fans at 27 Nov 2010 20:59:20:

"I would suggest you take some time to understand why each of these "sacked" people left or are leaving Chelsea. Ray Wilkins went following a dispute with Ron Gourley - not with the owner. Frank Arnesen has said that he will leave when his contract expires at the season - nothing to do with being "sacked" by the owner, just meeting his obligations. Cole and Ballack did not have their contracts renewed when the expired - they did not get "sacked", although it would be fair to say that costs would have played a large part in their contracts not being renewed. Belletti desired to leave the previous season but agreed to stay and saw out his contract with the club. Deco and Carvalho expressed their wishes to leave the club and those wishes were granted - they were not "sacked" by the owner. You clearly have little or no grasp of what has been going on at the club and seem to get some perverse pleasure from scaremongering.

Sharkey

RON WAS BROUGHT IN TO CUT COSTS AROUND THE CLUB, "

"WILKINS WENT FOR FINANCIAL REASONS AND NOTHING ELSE, AND REPLACED WITH A NOBODY (BECAUSE HES CHEAP AND WONT ASK QUESTIONS)."

Rubbish – you have no understanding of what happened.

"FRANK HAS BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL NOT EXTEND HIS CONTRACT WHICH IS A NICER WAY OF BEING SACKED."
Absolute nonsense – Arnesen has made a lengthy statement that appeared on the wires earlier – I have extracted a small part of it for you: "It has been a privilege and an honor for me to work for such a big club with so many great people. After six wonderful years I have decided to seek a new challenge when my contract expires at the end of this season. It has been a tremendous journey and I would like to thank everyone at Chelsea, especially Roman, for giving me the incredible opportunity to help build on the club's Academy and youth system along with our greatly talented academy and scouting staff." I assume you think he was lying or this is part of a conspiracy that only you know of.
"ASHLEY COLE WISHED TO LEAVE THE CLUB, WHY WASN'T HIS WISH GRANTED?"

I have no idea – perhaps the club wanted to keep one of their better players.

"SHARKEY, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BUT I THINK YOU ARE BEING NAIVE WHEN DISCUSSING THE CLUBS FINANCES. DID YOU KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO SELL OUR NAMING RIGHTS? DID YOU KNOW PLAYER BONUSES HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN DRASTICALLY? I AM NOT TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE, IN FACT MANY PEOPLE SHARE THE SAME VIEW, ITS NO SECRET THAT WE ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO REDUCE COSTS. WE ARE TRYING TO TRIM OUR WAGE BILL, I JUST HOPE OUR AGING STARS AIN'T NEXT BECAUSE OUR YOUTH ARE NOWHERE NEAR READY TO SUCCEED THEM.

WAKE UP MY FRIEND."

You do nothing but repeatedly unwind with the same constant bleating and scaremongering story. It is ill informed and tedious.

Sharkey.

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27 Nov 2010 20:59:20

I would suggest you take some time to understand why each of these "sacked" people left or are leaving Chelsea. Ray Wilkins went following a dispute with Ron Gourley - not with the owner. Frank Arnesen has said that he will leave when his contract expires at the season - nothing to do with being "sacked" by the owner, just meeting his obligations. Cole and Ballack did not have their contracts renewed when the expired - they did not get "sacked", although it would be fair to say that costs would have played a large part in their contracts not being renewed. Belletti desired to leave the previous season but agreed to stay and saw out his contract with the club. Deco and Carvalho expressed their wishes to leave the club and those wishes were granted - they were not "sacked" by the owner. You clearly have little or no grasp of what has been going on at the club and seem to get some perverse pleasure from scaremongering.

Sharkey

RON WAS BROUGHT IN TO CUT COSTS AROUND THE CLUB, WILKINS WENT FOR FINANCIAL REASONS AND NOTHING ELSE, AND REPLACED WITH A NOBODY (BECAUSE HES CHEAP AND WONT ASK QUESTIONS). FRANK HAS BEEN TOLD THAT THEY WILL NOT EXTEND HIS CONTRACT WHICH IS A NICER WAY OF BEING SACKED.

ASHLEY COLE WISHED TO LEAVE THE CLUB, WHY WASN'T HIS WISH GRANTED?

SHARKEY, I AGREE WITH A LOT OF WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY BUT I THINK YOU ARE BEING NAIVE WHEN DISCUSSING THE CLUBS FINANCES. DID YOU KNOW WE ARE TRYING TO SELL OUR NAMING RIGHTS? DID YOU KNOW PLAYER BONUSES HAVE BEEN CUT DOWN DRASTICALLY? I AM NOT TRYING TO SCARE PEOPLE, IN FACT MANY PEOPLE SHARE THE SAME VIEW, ITS NO SECRET THAT WE ARE DESPERATELY TRYING TO REDUCE COSTS. WE ARE TRYING TO TRIM OUR WAGE BILL, I JUST HOPE OUR AGING STARS AIN'T NEXT BECAUSE OUR YOUTH ARE NOWHERE NEAR READY TO SUCCEED THEM.

WAKE UP MY FRIEND.

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27 Nov 2010 20:34:56
To unsigned at 27 Nov 2010 19:20:08:

"WE DO NOT HAVE 25M TO SPEND ON A 28 YEAR OLD, WE DON'T HAVE 25M TO SPEND ON ANYONE, YOU DO KNOW THAT WE ARE SACKING OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE CANNOT COPE WITH OR OUTGOINGS DON'T YOU? ROMAN SACKED ARNASEN, WILKINS, BALLACK, JOE, BELLETTI, DECO, CARVALHO AND MANY YOUTH TO CUT OUR WAGE BILL.

WHO'S NEXT? IS ROMAN TIDYING UP OUR FINANCES TO SELL US ON?"

I would suggest you take some time to understand why each of these "sacked" people left or are leaving Chelsea. Ray Wilkins went following a dispute with Ron Gourley - not with the owner. Frank Arnesen has said that he will leave when his contract expires at the season - nothing to do with being "sacked" by the owner, just meeting his obligations. Cole and Ballack did not have their contracts renewed when the expired - they did not get "sacked", although it would be fair to say that costs would have played a large part in their contracts not being renewed. Belletti desired to leave the previous season but agreed to stay and saw out his contract with the club. Deco and Carvalho expressed their wishes to leave the club and those wishes were granted - they were not "sacked" by the owner. You clearly have little or no grasp of what has been going on at the club and seem to get some perverse pleasure from scaremongering.

Sharkey.

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27 Nov 2010 19:20:08

Lampard to Real Madrid in a part ex with Kaka. I don't believe the injury/injuries that the club and Lampard are proclaiming; I think that he wants to leave and the club want to do the swap.

LAMPARD IS 100% INJURED AND HE KEEPS HAVING RELAPSES BECAUSE OF HIS AGE, DROGBA WILL SUFFER THE SAME, AS WILL MOST OF OUR TEAM AS THEY ARE NOT GETTING ANY YOUNGER. IF WE SWAPPED KAKA FOR LAMPARD WE WOULD HAVE TO PAY THEM IN THE REGION OF 25M ON TOP OF THAT.

WE DO NOT HAVE 25M TO SPEND ON A 28 YEAR OLD, WE DON'T HAVE 25M TO SPEND ON ANYONE, YOU DO KNOW THAT WE ARE SACKING OUR STAFF BECAUSE WE CANNOT COPE WITH OR OUTGOINGS DON'T YOU? ROMAN SACKED ARNASEN, WILKINS, BALLACK, JOE, BELLETTI, DECO, CARVALHO AND MANY YOUTH TO CUT OUR WAGE BILL.

WHO'S NEXT? IS ROMAN TIDYING UP OUR FINANCES TO SELL US ON?

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27 Nov 2010 13:05:49

Well i think roman has fallen out of love for the club, i think he is trying to find new buyers for chelsea fc

{Editor's Note: And what makes you think that?}

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27 Nov 2010 09:14:28

Chelsea need a midfielder who can get past player and have a good shot
These players could do that:
Juao Mountinho
Carlos Eduardo
Kroos
Tomas Rosisky
Douglas Costa

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