Chelsea Banter Archive July 27 2011

27 Jul 2011 22:46:25
ed002 have Chelsea had an interest in pato in the past? {Ed002's Note - Back in the day.}

27 Jul 2011 22:07:14
ed so we get no one apart from a youngster from barca
mcity improve
man u improve
liverpool improve
and people still say were good enough 2 win league {Ed018's Note - and theres 5 weeks left in the transfer period, come back then and panic if we still havent signed anyone}

27 Jul 2011 21:20:26
Hey Ed , Will Chelsea make a bid for Porto striker Hulk? {Ed002's Note - Probably not.}

27 Jul 2011 21:11:29
I had to post something to all the people saying how can Chelsea let someone of Aguero's quality go to Man City, a big rival.

It's simple, Aguero wants a ridiculous amount of money in wages and that is something that Chelsea are just not willing to offer. It's alrite saying sell Malouda, Kalou and others to free up the space for wages, but then what happens when Aguero gets injured first game of the season and is out for the season? There is no-one to fill in.

You have to be realistic and stop moaning about the fact that Aguero is signing for Man City, they were going to sign some massive players at some point with all the money they are throwing around.

Chelsea are looking at buying players and we will obviously get some. Most of you guys are so impatient it's unbelievable, we still have a long time to go in the transfer window, so just sit back, relax and wait and see what happens.

If it comes to the end of the transfer window and we still haven't signed someone, then you can moan, but for now just relax and be patient.

"...what happens when Aguero gets injured first game of the season and is out for the season? There is no-one to fill in."

Zhirkov, who rightly should have the job over Malouda in the first place.

By saying that you don't get the point I am trying to make.

You cannot sell 3 or 4 players, so that you can use their wages on 1 player. It would weaken the team a huge amount

I get the point that you're trying to make. You seem to be under the assumption that Malouda and/or Kalou are the only players in the squad who play their respective positions. I'm saying that we have others who can readily fill in, or imho are better and deserve to be there instead. Unless you really think that Malouda is the only person capable of playing LW?

I believe that you can rid yourself of 3 - 4 players wages for 1 player. But it depends on many things (position that they play, their value to the team as of right now, do we have youngsters/reserves ready to move in as a back up...) Do you really think that Chelsea would sell 3 - 4 strikers just to replace them with Aguero? I doubt it. They would weed out an expendable defender, midfielder, or what have you.

We'd still have Benayoun, Sturridge, Kakuta, Drogba, Anelka, and ofcourse Torres. Aswell as Aguero, thats 7 great attacking forwards, not to mention a great blend of youth and experience. I was one of the posters that questioned Chelsea's lack of commitment in the pursuit of Aguero for a simple reason. He is better than Kalou and Malouda put together and times a thousand. The fans are concerned because when you see your club not strengthening when they have to, and keeping players on like Lampard who gets 130k plus a week what do you expect us to do??

Totally agree. The only other "top" side in the league who have done nothing is Spurs. Even Arsenal brought in Gervinho. Despite what people think about Liverpool, at least they're trying to improve and not resting on their laurels. The Manc' clubs improvements go without saying. If AVB continues to start the senior citizens and play them 90 minutes a week, we'll struggle to get a CL spot for '13.

Even if you sold a defender, a midfielder and a striker that wern't needed, you are still weakening the team, and if the rumours are correct and Aguero is on over 200k at Man City then selling 3/4 players (im talking about players like Ferreira, Kalou, Malouda, etc...) you are only just going to cover his wages.

While I think Aguero is an incredible player, and would have been a massive signing for Chelsea, I am glad that Chelsea didn't sign him with his wage demand so high. If you offer one player over 200k, what do the other players think? will they want a pay raise to match? what will new players coming in want in wages? it goes on...

Fair enough if he had signed for Man City on like 100-150k week, then I would have been annoyed that we didn't sign him, but the fact that he is getting paid over 200k makes me glad that we didn't sign him.

We have to accept, we cannot compete with Man City financially.

I agree Aguero should have been our main prority, we need to strengthen as we have been piss poor for a while and it will only get worse as the other clubs around us are buying quality players.

My issue isnt Aguero - thought I'd have loved to see him come to us - it is the lack of transfere activity.

I know there are 5 weeks left in the Transfere window BUT, only 2 or so until the start of the season. While I could wait for one "top class" signing to come late in august we still need 2-3 other class players IMO, and they needed bedding in before the season started. For me 1 Aug is the deadling for all but one world class player. if monday comes and no sign of a winger, a creative mid and a CB/RB (one or the other) Ill not be happy.

27 Jul 2011 20:18:11
The transfer market has been open for 27 days, with a full month at least before this to eye up potential targets and prepare/discuss potential deals. A possible and realistic scenario we could have been looking at by now is this:

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Charles N'zogbia (£9.5 million) - he is worth a lot more than this, 11 goals for Wigan is some going, he would have been a great signing, squad player but maybe even a potential starter, better than malouda and kalou by a long way And an interesting fact, the only player to complete more dribbles than him in Europe last season was Lionel Messi i honestly do not understand why we didn't even make an approach?
David Hoilett - 20 years old and already a regular starter at Blackburn with 6 goals last season isn't bad, technically superb. He is literally the exact type of player we are supposedly looking for, young, technically superb, attacking winger/striker, potential, premier league experience, again to not even ask or make an approach is strange.
Mata (£20million) - Winger, young, quality, experienced....again why have we not tied this deal up?
Adam Johnson - I think this is going to happen but by now it could have and maybe should have already happened?
Sergio Aguero - Why o why did we not pay the extra fee to sign him, instead we let MC sign him, biggest mistake of the summer for me. I honestly can not even watch it on because it depresses me to know we would not pay the extra for him.

These are just 5 players that fit the exact bill of the type of player we are 'supposedly' looking at, all young, skillful, quality, game changers, experienced, attackers. Even if we would have bought them all it would have cost roughly £100 million which is not a lot for 5 quality players. Get rid of Zhirkov, Malouda, Kalou, Drogba and Anelka and we recoup roughly £50 million and free up the space. I understand that not of all these would have happened, its just an example of the possibility that every one of the things i have suggested could 100% have happened if we pushed it.
At the moment i am very dis-heartened and am not looking forward to the coming season, how can any Chelsea fan when all our rivals have strengthened and after our worst season since Abramovich took over, we don't change anything with less than a month to go before our first game? If anyone can think of a reason why i'm wrong please tell me because i honestly do not know. Sorry for the negativity, but we were the best under Mourinho, we should no longer be happy with second best.

27 Jul 2011 19:44:02
Message for the Chelsea faithfulc

Our club is not showing the type of commitment it should be to bringing in some quality. I watched Kalou, Malouda, Lampard today on , and trust me dont be fooled by the scoreline as it flatters Chelsea big time. Torres come on 63rd minute and recieved zero service yet again, I was falling asleep through most of the game I was that bored. When you see a team performing like this and players like Aguero become available that can help us improve, and the club does not attempt to move on him, one word, Disgusting

Did you sleep to see Sturridge performance?

Not the original poster here. I didn't sleep through Sturridge's performance - BUT - I'm also intelligent enough to realise who we were playing against. Even Malouda looked better than he usually does. But it's really not hard to look good when you're playing a club that's probably no better than the Seattle Sounders. This tour is obviously for the supporters in SE Asia and to make money, because it surely doesn't help us prepare for the regular season other than getting exercise. Look at Barca's pre-season schedule and who they're playing (Bayern as I type). Our strongest opponents will be Villa.

But of course in every forum on the net I'm seeing posts from delusional supporters lauding Malouda, and that we should stand pat and not buy anyone because of our recent results against the High School teams...

I was awake for the Sturridge goal.

27 Jul 2011 14:33:23
Looking at our starting XI for our game today just do t really fill me with much hope of winning the champions league or league next season, and I think we need 4 players, don't think one or two would be enough, pastore as creative midfielder moutinho as good passer to break thongs up and start things up again hulk desperatly just because he would be perfect and Mata or affelay for width speed young and not mega expensive like hulk and pastore,

Sturridge the only spark there

Cant believe the club are even thinking of sending studge on loan. Great goal today, in my opinion he should be 1st choice this year playing from the right

The score line flattered us, we were terrible no creativity what so ever, Malouda, Kalou, Lampard all still the same players what is AVB waiting for?

"The score line flattered us, we were terrible no creativity what so ever, Malouda, Kalou, Lampard all still the same players what is AVB waiting for?"

Agreed

And to the guy who feels as if Sturridge shouldn't be loaned out - wait until we see how we look against a team who can actually defend. It was way too easy for Sturridge and Malouda today. I doubt that they will be given that much room against even Stoke City.

This pre-season is not helpful for AVB to assess any players, and I hope that he's intelligent enough to see how our competition will make even a U-17 look good.

27 Jul 2011 14:10:50
Watching the Kitchee v Chelsea how obvious is it that Malouda, Kalou, Zhirkov are not good enough for our side they need to go and we need to get width urgently

But to be honest the other 8 players are making up for them. They are actually playing decently.

I agree with you entirely and it hurts alot to see J.Mata being linked to Arsenal and Spurs at very low price.... after two season CFC will want to buy him at x3 the price...

Chelsea have strengthened already with Torres, Luiz and Ramires but it's clearly not enough for what the club wants to achieve Roman needs to go out and get a pair of wingers, an attacking midfielder maybe even 2 and a right back Why are we letting Aguero go City aswell all Chelsea have to do is agree to his wage demands and then a deal will be reached Theres no commitment by the club being shown what so ever. We are still the same old boring team as last year I literally do start yawning when I watch us play.

Strengthening with Torres will never be enough if he has no one (other than Yossi) willing to give him decent support.

I have no clue why AVB even played him today (against Kitchee), considering the 2 guys flanking him (Sturridge/Kalou) are more concerned with earning a spot in the side. People will go on and on about Sturridge's goal, but they'll fail to mention that he was as greedy as Malouda. {Ed002's Note -