Chelsea Banter Archive July 26 2012
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26 Jul 2012 22:18:20
Two assists for Oscar tonight! A nice performance from him, he also made some great runs, its just a shame his teammates cannot pick a pass like he can.
Not such a great game for Sturridge who was pulled off at half time, Mata was OK but struggled in a very average Spanish team. Romeu looked a bit shaky and nearly cost his side a goal. So all in all not great for Chelsea players, but encouraging signs for our new boy.
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I know it's nothing to do with Chelsea, but the halftime sub Muhammed salah was exceptional too, and considering all the Egyptian players were fasting, they deserve great respect.
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Getting pulled off at half time sounds alright to me, we only get water and oranges in our Saturday side.
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Was that you trying to be funny matt?
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Was f***ing hilarious, if you ask me
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That was classic Matt, some folk have no sense of humour
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26 Jul 2012 21:21:20
Do you think if we got a 20m offer for Torres would we let him go Eds?
Thanks
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£30m+
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Niether hes been told hes main man next year...... plus noone would off 30+ mill the way hes been playing
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26 Jul 2012 21:00:48
Hello Ed(s) :) I agree we really need a striker so Torres can get some competition, i know we are targeting Moses and cavani.
But im getting quite confused do we actually want moses as a 2nd option striker? i do really not see the guy good enough to play for chelsea he is FAR away from scoring the goals that needed for a striker at Chelsea. As well in my opinion Sturidge is alot better and that would just make him 3rd choise maybe even 4th if they prefer to have lukaku playing instead.
Why not get Cavani/(Falcao if he is avaible) they both has proved themself at the highest level and is a complete goal machine.
Im just getting a little confused what Chelsea actually want out of Moses if they buy himand i have no doubt alot other people in here has aswell.
Thanks for your time i really appreciate it.
Mathias
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Well for a start moses plays right wing.....
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We've already got enough players to play and cover right wing.
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26 Jul 2012 20:51:11
After watching the games today i'd say Cavani is worth about £2.75 and Sturridge worth £0.49....
i hope people dont think Cavani can replace Didi Drog........he cant. I would rather find out how much Walkers pay Liniker and make him a better offer.
We really do need Torres to perform this season or we have a real problem.....................
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Tool alert, people
trueblue012
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This is the type of post that makes me want to run down stairs and chin my old girl! A player can have poor game u know! Dnt worry bout his 60+ goals in 90 odd games for napoli u just judge him on one game! Clueless
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I agree that he scores a lot of goals for Napoli but there is no denying that his passing and decision making is poor at times making his £35m price tag hard to believe.
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You usually find that strikers aint good at every aspect of football. cavani hasnt got great control or amazing at passing, same as drogba really. but is solid in the air and is a calm finisher & makes some pretty intelergent runs.
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Well the money being asked for him doesn't reflect his ability. There are better deals out there IMO.
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If you watch every touch Cavani makes in a game and compare it to every touch Falcao makes in a game you can see the difference in quality. Basically Falcao is better for the same sort of money!
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Being a striker isnt all about there first touch id rather them be able to bang in goals than perfect there ball control
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We aren't exactly going to target a striker that can't score goals... MB
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Yes i know that mb thats why i said id rather them score goals than perfect there ball control ........
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Exactly so that why I'm saying we have to then separate them on other things like how good their hold up play is and wether they will suit our style of play..... there is no point spending £35m on someone who is jut a good goal scorer, they have to have other attributes to bring to the team.
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27 Jul 2012 18:18:28
ok original post your saying cavani is poor from one game
put it this way drogba a legend yes BUT instead of being blinded by him saving our champions league take a look back over the years hes had poor seasons and popped up with a goal when needed
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26 Jul 2012 20:45:55
All the sturridge fan boys he is bloody terrible, wants play striker role not a chance he is no where near Torres standards.
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To be fair he can't be 100%, he has just got over meningitis.
Remember when Drogba had malaria and was poor for a few months after recovering? I suppose he's bloody terrible too is he?
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Drogba was good before sturridge wasnt
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I think u may find the post was more of a joke ( the )...but thanx for the Armchair Experts eg Pinky and Trueblue012 to leave the comments. Even tho they must be involved in the Football arena they still struggle with working out the difference between joke and serious.
Getting Lineker to leave behind a career in Crisps was the givaway in the post ...just in case u were both considering if it could really work !
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Sorry if i offended you in any way, but people who watch a player have one bad game and then come on here and say he isn't good enough, just gets quite annoying
trueblue012
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Woah someones got there guard up
i highly doubt pinky and trueblue are armchair fans
if the post was a joke and you dont really think cavani is a poor player why bother posting in the first place?
100% agree with what you said trueblue
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26 Jul 2012 20:28:08
ED002 Di Matteo has said it is likely 2 more player's will be signed is that the case? {Ed002's Note - Two or three.}
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Do you think those 2 or 3 will include 'kiddies' as you say, because chelsea tend to make a few of these, 3 already in the musonda brothers.
Devon. {Ed002's Note - No.}
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Id say most likely a right back right wing and striker
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26 Jul 2012 20:24:53
My line up for next season.
Cech
Apzilicueta Cahill Terry Cole
Ramires Essien
Hazard Oscar Mata
Torres
Subs
Turnbull
Luiz
Ivanovic
Betrand/Mikel
Lampard
Marin
Sturridge
What do you chaps think, I'm not sure how Moses and the possible addition of Cavani could fit in.
Would like your opinions.
PR!
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Looks good XD
JO!
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Yer deffo like the look, feel ivanovic will be preferred right back for this season.
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Love it! If Cavani is signed he can play on the right, im not sure how much he would like that though, and i would not want to replace any of the attacking mid three.
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I think terry is essential in defence he keeps em together proper comander in defence. i 2 feel branislav will be ou main RB but azpilicueta will play 40 perecent of games i guess. ramires is first name int he 2 CM, a fit fighting essien is just what we need so ramy can push forward and still go on his runs. marin, hazard, mata, oscar, piazon i think will all get decent game time as the number 10 role and wingers. and torres up front, lukaku aint ready he needs a loan. sturridge wel i aint gunna go thr i just cant stand him. so in all honestly we need a striker but i dont think 2 hi profiled lik cavani or falcao, someone like schurrle would be idea. also cole & bertrand left back obv! i think mikel & lampard will play alot also hoping mceachran is played a fairbit. BLUEBOY1
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26 Jul 2012 20:11:59
How do you come up with she has moved to London/Manchester? Cavani is in England for the olympics and she has come to stay with him because she doesn't feel safe at home. It has nothing to do with making a move to Chelsea.
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26 Jul 2012 20:09:17
Is there any reason why the CFC rumours page is different from the others? The replies show up on a different page where most other teams' pages list them on the home page.
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Because we are special.
roan
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26 Jul 2012 20:04:26
Hi ed who do you support? {Ed002's Note - Chelsea last season but I have not yet decided for this year.}
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U cant do that ed! urnt serious are u? {Ed002's Note - I change every year - most people do.}
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Quailty ed! Lool
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So will u still be our ed? most people do? ur avin me on!
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Yea i was thinking about changing too ed who shall we go for?
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Do any of you no the difference between supporter and fan?
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You cant swap teams i could never do it. all my mates are arsenal and man u. i never thought about changing even though they always won trophies. mind you times ave chaged for the better ;) BLUEBOY1
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In short, for me a supporter goes to games, buys merchandise etc, thus 'supporting' the club financially, anyone else I would term as a fan. Although, the word fan comes from fanatic which is possibly a too extreme a word for them. Very philosophical question, love it and could debate it for hours, but I shall leave it there for now.
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26 Jul 2012 19:36:45
....................cech.....................
........luiz....terry/cahill...cole.........
...................ramires...................
..............mata.......lampard..........
.....................oscar....................
..hulk.............torres.........hazard..
my attackin team 31213
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Are u actually being serious ?!?!
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Some1 has been playing way to much fifa
Marley
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Erm no no and no
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We will win everything if we can play our games with 12 vs oppositions 11 players like this clown suggests. Probably thinks 2 plus 2 is 5 lol!
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A slash indicates 'or' u absolute tool!
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Original Poster you have just been out-tooled by the guy who can't add.
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People need to learn how to read
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Lol yer i noticed that osgood i had to go back and check the lineup needless to say that is the most ridiculous team iv seen
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Ive been thinking of stupid lineups but i got a good on
....................cech...............
....................luiz.....................
.......azilipcueta.........cole............
hazard.mata.ramires.lampardoscar.marin
........................torres........................
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26 Jul 2012 19:07:46
Who agree that they would of liked to see luiz tried in defensive midfielder this pre season! I think this position is crying out for him.
This be my starting line up next season
Cech
Invanovic. Cahill. Terry. Cole
Ramires. Luiz
Hazard. Lampard. Mata
Torres
Wots ur thoughts lads! Open to negative responses, but I honestly think that team could challeng on all fronts
Pinky
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Yer with all apart from lampard as the number 10. change for oscar
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If we play a holding mid ess, mikel or luiz. which to me means ramires next to one of, swap oscar for lamps and put mata central. i personally believe weve gota play one holding mid or superfrank, not lamps and a holding mid together. BLUEBOY1
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Why doesn't Marin get featured in any of these teams? If he cost £40 million he'd be straight in everyone's teams! he's quality
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Agreed we havent even signed a right winger and people wont start him get he could play there
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26 Jul 2012 19:01:12
Hi ed what do you think the chances are of hulk moving to Chelsea?
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73.89%
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26 Jul 2012 18:50:25
Hey Ed do you know if there is still an interest in Modric ? Or is it resigned that he will be joining Real Madrid come next season ?
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Dude we have just signed Oscar. We have Josh ,Rami and Lamps still has a year or two in him.
I have never wanted Modric and I want him even less now we don't need him I mean, He is expensive , he is at the wrong side of 20 and as I said we just signed Oscar who could well grow into the position. So guys can we stop asking about Modric like......... Forever. Thanks.
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26 Jul 2012 18:20:21
Hi ed,I just heard we have made a bid for cavani {Ed002's Note - At half time?}
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26 Jul 2012 17:56:39
Is the Napoli president serious about the 100 million price tag he put on cavani?
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No, he talk bs all the time.
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He was wearing a clown outfit at the time, with a big red nose and one of those flowers that squirts water.
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26 Jul 2012 17:46:48
Hi ed just wondering if you know if chelsea are still interested in signing willian thanks. {Ed002's Note - Try the search function.}
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26 Jul 2012 14:14:57
I would personally be happy now with us adding Azpiliqueta to the squad along with a striker…for me I’d be happy with Lewandowski or Llorente (Preferably Llorente) and both would suit our needs. Don’t get me wrong I’d love to see Cavani or Falcao come in but can’t see Falcao leaving At. Madrid this summer and Napoli are going to make any move for Cavani troublesome to say the least.
The players I’d be happy to see heading our of the exit door are…Malouda, Ferreira (into coaching / background role), Kakuta, Benayoun and Turnbull.
The prominent players I’d like to see loaned are…Kane, Chalobah, Bamford, De Bruyne, Lukaku, Van Aanholt and Thorgan Hazard.
That would leave us with a squad of…
Cech, Hialrio, Blackman
Azpiliqueta, Ivanovic, Hutchinson, Terry, Luiz, Cahill, Cole, Bertrand
Essien, Obi Mikel, Romeu, Ramires, Lampard, Meireles, McEachran
Hazard, Mata, Marin, Oscar, Paizon
Torres, Sturridge, Llorente (for arguments sake)
From which my first choice eleven would be…
Cech
Ivanovic**Luiz**Terry**Cole
Ramires**Lampard
Oscar**Mata**Hazard
Torres
Jobs a good’un
Surewould
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Lampard should be benched
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You mean one of the players that saved our season and quite frankly along with cech, terry, cole and drogba have given us the trophies we have won over the years
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WHat so that's an excuse to play just because he's a legend but slows down and will ruin our play? He earns the fact to finish his career here but not to be number one on the team sheet any more simple as. He's underperforming and shouldn't be starting.
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Re read what i said even with by his standards an average season he was STILL carrying the team
its not all about quick play either spain/barcalona best national team and club team in the world they dont do quick play they pass it around
i dont think your a true chelsea fan the way your trying to throw out the old guard we NEED do you not want us winning anything
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Well see when the season starts
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It is time for the old guard to begin passing on the torch starting with Drog. This should be Lamps' last season as an impact sub and for the big names. don't need to waste him against wigan or stoke. save him for when we need him. terry cole n cech have at LEAST 3 years left i think
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26 Jul 2012 09:30:47
agree if you play fifa ultimate team and went and brought hazard, marin and de bryune when they were made chelsea players
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I play ultimate team on Xbox and would like to add some Chelsea supporters to my friends list. Any gamertags welcome to play!
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Im playstation dude
oooo id like to add to my original post agree if your going to buy oscar when he comes avaliable as a chelsea player :D
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Had to pick up a Lille Hazard as i could not afford the Chelsea one! Was pretty gutted, im hoping the Chelsea Oscar will be a bit less expensive!
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Yer i sold most my players too get a chelsea hazard stupid how much there price goes up i reckon oscar will be about 5 grand
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26 Jul 2012 12:00:22
Alright guys? Anyone fancy placing any guesses on what we'll win this season?
Mine are:
Prem: win that
Champs league: semis/final
Fa cup: win
Capital one cup: quater finals, ue to the fact i suspect the likes of piazon and that would be playing...
Club world cup: win that
Super cup: win that
communtiy sheild: win that
Whats your opinions guys?
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A bit too optimistic for a team in transition .
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Be hard to retain the champions league with a fresh attack in all honesty
i think we got a chance at the league, fa cup, a nice run in the capital one cup with the youngsters, club world cup and super world cup
so potentially 4 trophies for a new attacking team i would say isnt bad at all but id love to retain the champions league
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With all the games we have I'd gladly take
Top 3 in the league
Prolly win the fa cup
Quarters/semi in the capitol one due to playing youngsters
Super cup win
Club world cup win
Community shield well have a tough game there because city will have everyone while we wont
Overall that's pretty pessimistic but I think you can expect that at the bare minimum.
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Prem: 3rd or 4th straight fight with arsenal and spurs.
Fa. Cup: Win it
COC: Who cares
Champions League: Semis
Club World Cup: Win it
Super Cup: Win it on pens
Shield: Lose out in normal time and be a wake up call
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Dont have faith in our team then ^^^^
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26 Jul 2012 10:42:32
I would much rather us keep benayoun than offload him and buy moses. agree if you agree ;)
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26 Jul 2012 10:33:33
Every player has/will have to compete for a place in the team. What makes Torres so special that people think he shouldn't have to compete for a place and basically, earn his salary? I don't care if he gets upset, I want us to win. With or without torres.
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26 Jul 2012 10:18:56
Welcome Oscar.
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He is on this site regularly, so he will appreciate that.
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^ ^ ^
Good friendly banter!!
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It's the thought that counts.
Right?
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26 Jul 2012 09:39:32
I think RDM prefers to play Rami on the right hand side of midfield. Which is a waste of his stamina, we are gonna need a natural wide player on that side cause in my opinion Rami is more effective as one of the two in the double pivot. Hope its just cause we ain't got options and he's just trying things out.
Well as for the match, I think the quick link up between the two players in the pivot and the 4 players up top is still a little slow and still goes sideways more often than not, except for Essien every other person in the position was quite average, perhaps still not match fit? I think a fit Essien and Rami would do very well there. With the signing of Oscar I think we might have found the brain in our midfield and his technique, vision, composure and his ability to read a game he could be our very own Modric and could even be better.
We got the players to be successful, its now up to RDM to use those players to perfection , that's what shows the quality of a manager.
-BLUERAY-
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Completely agree. I hope RDM brings him back into the middle when the dust settles.
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Think he was just playing him there due to lack of decent options.
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26 Jul 2012 08:46:11
Chelsea to bring in
Cesar Azpillicueta RB
Lucas Moura / Hulk RW
New Striker, I would have liked Schurrle but he is now unavailable, Cavani would be too big addition and it wouldn't allow Torres to thrive as we will more than likely play one striker and Torres would be unhappy, I think Ba or Lewan dowski would be the perfect addition for the team as they would add huge amounts of quality but not affect morale.
Even though I don't imagine it, I would love Chelsea to sign Rodwell as holding midfielder, he would add to our homegrown players and would be perfect along with Ramires or Romeu.
Could see Mikel, Mereiles, Essien, Fereira, Malouda and Benayoun leaving, with de Bruyne, Lukaku and maybe Kakuta going out on loan.
Leaving a squad of
Cech, Turnbull, Hilario
Azpillicueta, Hutchinson
Cahill, Luiz, Terry, Ivanovic
Cole, Bertrand
Ramires, Lampard, Romeu, Rodwell, McEachran
Moura/Hulk Mata Oscar Hazard Marin
Torres, Sturridge, Ba/Lewandowski
Can't wait for next season and future seasons with that squad!
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We most likely wont sign any of Ba, Lucas Moura or Rodwell. More likely signings would be Cavani and/or Moses.
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26 Jul 2012 04:41:56
This has to be the last season for Lampard and probably JT .Great players but they have lost their legs and are painfully slow.Bash me all you want but it is the truth.A goal here and there does not matter,what matters is their overall play.In this new team slow players like Mikel,Lamps,JT are being badly shown up.
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Not sure about JT but i can see this being the last season for Lamps.
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Some people on this site are a disgrace its pre season lamps is our top goalscorer over the last 10 years he outscored drogba who may i add is older and you wanted him to stay
few bad games and your all over him lost there legs?? they never had pace anyway
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I think it's disgusting that people like u call urself Chelsea fans. We've only played three games of pre season for goodness sake, they are both Chelsea legends and even If they are not playing every match they still have a part to play at the club, look at scholes and giggs at man u. You'd should be ashamed.
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I will bet my life lampard will out score torres this season. And when ever has terry and lampard had legs anyway! They both slow but they quick in their heads and that's wot makes them world class. Nearly threw my phone out the window reading the original post! Clueless.
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Pinky i havent agreed with your posts but that one i 100% agree with and it made me chuckle
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I am not basing this on the pre season performances.As I said they are legends but legends do come with an expiry date just so you know.Lamps was terrible for 3 quaters of the last season.As for JT he was skimmed when we were playing a high line.He was skimmed to death by Suarez remember.Before he got sent off he was getting skimmed by Barca .What do you all think this season we will play defensively ,because we now do not have a team that is capable of doing that.To reduce the gap between the forward line ,midfield and defense we have to play a higher line.Lampard and Mikel were slowing the game down drastically last season and the counter attacks were not fast enough in the league.
All I am saying is we now have more capable youngsters and hence they have to be given the opportunity to start regularly and Lamps and JT for sure will be reduced to bench roles,which they might struggle to accept.Whether Lampard scores more goals than Torres is irrelevant.The team is the most important thing here and no one comes before the team.All I am saying is as their performances are slowly declining there will come a time when they have to move on.You do know that at their age their performances are not going to get better.If they are holding the team back they have to be moved on.
I am, unlike some of the folks bashing me, not biased.
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I'll bet against you both then. Torres to out score Lampard by a minimum of 5 goals this season.
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Roan you say lampard was poor last season and terry werent much better but they are 2 of the what id say 5 players that carried us last year (mata, cole drog being the other 3 and argueably rami)
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None of us are claiming that they are our best players anymore, however they offer a lot more to the club than just good performances. It takes a naive Chelsea fan to recognise that.
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I'd say they could start to take a lesser role. We have 3 of the top 5 or so centre halls in the league and that will lead to great competition. Terry has said he won't transfer and if the club dont want him then he will retire. Lamps I'm not as sure about but there's no reason to move them just because they won't be automatic selections.
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26 Jul 2012 03:29:08
Ed I'm wondering you've made a statement that Gael kakuta will not be going on loan this season. Is this due to the clubs needs, player demands, the homegrown rule, or am I just too dumb to realize the reason?
Tk {Ed002's Note - He will either stay or be sold - it is not doing the player any good going on loan.}
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Fair enough thanks for the help Ed!
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25 Jul 2012 23:09:47
Hi Ed, you may be unable to answer this but if we signed Hulk, would that end our pursuit for a striker? bit unsure as he usually plays on the wing, cheers {Ed002's Note - It might.}
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26 Jul 2012 04:09:23
Essien looked fantastic hope he keeps it up because he was our best centermid for the second game running
Lamps had little involvement but showed up for the goal at the perfect time. Signature Lampard.
Defense looked solid
Marin and hazard were less effective
mikel failed to track back for second and didn't help the build up. As positive as essien has been he's been troubling.
Chalobah lost his mark for the last goal
De Bruyne has looked far less impressive out wide
Malouda and benayoun brought nothing to the game again.
Overall less than impressive
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Josh or Debruyne should have started in the midfield.But it is preseason game so who cares.Hope RDM figures out the balance of the side.It will be interesting to see the combination he deploys.De bruyne should not be sent out on loan.Sell Malouda ,please.
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What was the starting lineup and stuff then lads. Any more info on the game? Cheers BLUEBOY1
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Benayoun brought nothing?? one of the best players in the first half
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Blueboy
The starting lineup was:
Hilario
cole terry Cahill ivanovic
Essien. Lamps
Rami. Marin. Benayoun
Lukaku
Substitutions
(Half time)
Ferreira for cole
Turnbull for hilario
Luiz for terry
Malouda for benayoun
(mid second half)
Miereles for lamps
Obi for essien
Hazard for Marin
Piazon for rami
Chalobah for Cahill
De bruyne for lukaku
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25 Jul 2012 22:48:27
Do we maintain interest in Luke shaw of Southampton. Billy
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25 Jul 2012 20:09:33
How sure is hulk coming to chelsea
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Not very, i would have though it is between him and Cavani, if one is signed the other wont be.
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26 Jul 2012 00:18:39
Why does everyone want a rw in my opinion hazard oscar and mata should be the top three of a 4-2-3-1 formation with nando up front rami alongside either lamps or essien or mereileas (not a big fan of mikel) we do not need to spend 38 m on hulk because we have marin and sturridge with a decent right back and maybe a tackler for midfield we could become the mmost balanced team in the league and would give us a great chance to win back the league
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