Chelsea Banter Archive May 25 2019

 

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25 May 2019 22:33:22
ed002 there are many conflicting reports going around about our appeal to CAS, any chance you can clear it up and say if we still intend to appeal? if its true we have until the 29th to appeal?

appreciate it alot.

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{Ed002's Note - The club intend to appeal this week.}

26 May 2019 00:06:32
Thanks Ed, seems like Chelsea have made their mind up in trying to get the ban frozen at least. When do you think we will know about whether the ban is frozen or not. Thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - No, I don't think you understand what has been happening.}

26 May 2019 09:44:08
Maybe I don't Ed2. What is the situation with whole ban if you don't mind me asking. Also do Chelsea want the ban frozen or will they just appeal and not make that request.

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{Ed002's Note - I am nt going to get in to that - it is rather pointless.}

26 May 2019 11:13:01
That's fine Ed2, no worries mate.

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26 May 2019 11:10:53
So ed do we expect to be able to sign players this summer then? Thanks alot.

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{Ed002's Note - I know what will happening later this week but have no expectations about what will happen beyond what I have already said.}

26 May 2019 13:08:27
I see, thanks a lot for answering ed, have a good day.

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25 May 2019 15:58:05
Ed002, is there any change in the situation of Zouma or is he still expected to leave?

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{Ed002's Note - Nothing has changed.}

25 May 2019 16:30:08
Thank you.

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25 May 2019 18:11:07
Also Ed002, you told us about other loanees but you never told us the immediate plans for Mount and Tomori. Anything on them?

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{Ed002's Note - The club has yet to decide on a lot of players.}

25 May 2019 19:08:54
Okay thanks.

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{Ed002's Note - There is traditionally a meeting where the views of those who deal with youngsters and loan players make their recommendations to people at the club and advisors - in most cases their recommendations are accepted.}

25 May 2019 21:33:49
This is actually something I didn't know about. Thank you, Ed. Have a good day!

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25 May 2019 14:27:48
Ed001, how many new players do you think Chelsea need?

I personally feel we need 6 new players in addition to Pulisic.

CF - (Haller or Isak for me)
LW - (Insigne/ Sancho/ Bailey/ Felipe
Anderson)
CM - (Sarabia/ Mount/ Ndombele/ Rabiot)
DM - (Kovacic or someone specialized like Thiago Mendes/ Weigl/ Brozovic)
CB - (Boubacar Kamara/ Zouma/ Romagnoli/ Tah)
RB - (Reece James)

I don't know how suited will Mount and Zouma be for their respective roles, so they are not definite choices for me unlike Reece.
What are your thoughts?

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{Ed001's Note - it depends on what you mean by new? If you are counting loan players coming back as new, then that is one thing. I would not count them as new players though, so I would say you don't need any new players, you just need to replace those who go. And one of them to go should be Barkley.

When you look at your squad, including all the players who are out on loan being back in, it looks very strong. Only real weakness would be up top, unless you can get Morata to actually figure out how to kick the ball!}

25 May 2019 14:41:24
I included loan players as well since some of them are more than capable of playing for us like Zouma, Reece and Mount.

But we will still have to get new players at DM (Jorginho's cover), LW (Hazard's replacement who will rotate with CHO) and a starting striker.

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{Ed001's Note - you can simply play 2 deeper in mid, with one of them Kante it matters little which other midfielder it is as he even made Drinkwater look Premier League level.}

25 May 2019 17:06:16
Jovic, Pepe, Romagnoli and Chilwell and were done. James, Zouma, Mount and Tammy back from loan.

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25 May 2019 18:34:18
I don't think we need to buy a lot of new players. Loanees can fill most of the needs.
I'd have Zouma, Aina/ James, Mount and Tammy coming back.

Then I think buying a top striker is a necessity. There aren't many available sadly. Jovic would be amazing but won't happen. Haller is a good option as well. Or Isak perhaps, though he'd probably rotate more with Giroud and Tammy. But it could work, without putting too much pressure on him too soon.

Other necessary buy I think is indeed a mid that can rotate with Kante and Jorgi. Tonali would be a dream. Don't know many others who could do it. Barella perhaps, but according to Ed002 he wants to stay in Italy.

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26 May 2019 09:40:50
Do you not rate barkley ed001.

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{Ed001's Note - not in the slightest as I know he is only a moment of boredom away from slipping back into his old ways. So far he has benefitted from behaving much more professionally and not spending every night out on the lash but he doesn't exactly have a big group of friends outside of Chelsea players in London to go out with. I just can't see that staying the case forever. He is a bit like Gazza was, easily led, and the club will need to keep a close eye on his acquaintances.}

26 May 2019 13:18:56
I wasn't aware that he was the kind, Ed. Cheers! I always pictured Barkley as a "nice, introverted kid. "

On another note Ed, where would Mount fit best in our midfield? Playing the role Kante plays or the one Loftus-Cheek does?

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{Ed001's Note - no mate, that was why he has so many problems at Everton, they were unable to control him and keep him away from bad influences. Chelsea have done a good job so far, but it seems unlikely it will last. However you do never know. He might have realised how much better he can play and how his career is moving forward again and value that enough to keep on the straight and narrow. He can go out on the lash every night if he likes after his career ends and it is a short career, it is not that big a sacrifice to wait!

I am not sure mate, I don't think he is fully developed yet and so could become better at either, depending on which one he plays. Once he establishes himself in one position, I expect he will grow into it and that will become his best one.}

26 May 2019 13:32:24
Thank you Ed001. That part about Mount really made my day.

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{Ed001's Note - he looks a very good prospect, all about keeping his head on right. He has the potential to be a very good player for a team challenging for the title, but it is all up to him!}

26 May 2019 13:56:54
I really want us to integrate our youth, Ed. But there is a slight fear in me if they can be good enough. When I look at the squads that Liverpool and City have, I wonder if the likes of CHO, Mount and Reece can compete with the likes of Mane, Trent, De Bruyne etc.

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25 May 2019 11:14:29
Chelsea want 130m for Hazard. Fair play Marina, hopefully she sticks to her guns because let's be honest his worth a lot more than that had it not been for his contract issue.

As usual, RM trying to rob us of our asset. Funny thing is, we are not desperate to sell. However, RM are desperate to buy. roles reversed.

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25 May 2019 12:03:00
£130m would be a great price. He’s 28, has 1 year left on his contract and has wanted to join Real Madrid for years. The only issue is whether Real would be willing to pay that especially because they need to have a bit of an overhaul over the next couple of years rather than just signing one galactico. We’d also need to reinvest that money wisely which is anything but a formality.

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{Ed002's Note - £130M is not the asking price. Try avoiding discussing money.}

25 May 2019 12:08:05
I get that hazard has a dream to play for Madrid, but I’m shocked Barcelona haven’t tried to take him. I mean look what they paid for coutinho. Least hazard is an actual winger, wonder if playing s few years with Messi would have impact on him.

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25 May 2019 13:58:32
Matt I have wondered same. I feel he's even better suited to Barcelona style of play than Real Madrid. I guess Hazard only want Madrid though.

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25 May 2019 16:40:08
Yeah, just shocked thst Madrid Barcelona PSG Bayern even Juve are not all in for him.

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25 May 2019 17:46:36
No worries Ed2. Il avoid the money, I suppose its incorrect.

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25 May 2019 10:39:52
The paying customers in other words the fans are clearly divided about Sarri this is our version of Brexit.
He arrived promising attractive football against a back drop of the board sacking a popular manager who had achieved miracles with a limited squad so little wonder the fans have reacted negatively to the boring fare that has been served up.
This division is unhealthy and very counter productive for the club .
I see no way he will remain and his departure will be dressed up as another club wanting his services in Italy.
If Frank wants the job it's his but it's a big call so early in his career.
But if the transfer ban is accepted
he has in essence got a free ride for 12 months at least to give our young players a chance.
Given this approach I believe the fans would back him to the hilt irrespective of winning anything.

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25 May 2019 10:55:30
Turvey, I like your description of Sarri as our Brexit. It certainly does divide opinions.

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25 May 2019 11:04:41
If I recall correctly, there were tons of fans slating Conte near the end of his tenure at Chelsea due to his negative and unattractive football? Even pundits were calling his tactics in some games 'criminal' and of course most of our fans jumped on the bandwagon.

I see a bit of cycle here mate. You could say the same occurred with Jose during his 2nd stint. As soon as we start getting bad results the anxiety amongst the fans increases.

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25 May 2019 12:30:10
I like sarri a lot
With the current crop of players we have there is no way we could of competed with the top 2 am I sad about that yes indeed I am
Spurs are 3 or four years ahead of us in terms of managers team and they finished below us
I think with the squad we have which is certainly in transition with lots of players ageing youngsters coming through and star players leaving
And a squad with a mish mash of ex managers players picked for there systems I think sarri has done a great job
3rd in league and 2 yes 2 Cup finals and everyones negativity in the ground on social media and media you would of thought we got relegated
Even the year Jose took us to 10th was more positive than this
I find it appalling to be honest the treatment of sarri jorginho and others and the negativity is ridiculous.

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25 May 2019 13:27:53
Gianfranco, as always a very enjoyable post.

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25 May 2019 14:43:04
Zola I disagree with you on this being the best possible result from our current squad. If Sarri had tweaked his approach earlier like Conte when results were negative, we would have been better off.
You only referenced Conte when he no longer cared because the board reneged to support his transfer. I wonder if you also remember his first season, title winning season. IMO I will rather have Conte than Sarri as a manager if both are supported transfer-wise. Conte is a winner and is more adaptable technically. IMO Sarri is just another kind of Wenger who believe football should be played in a particular way. Atimes method over result.
I will support Sarri if he remain our manager but won't be pained if he left.

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26 May 2019 00:36:16
Thanks Tom mate how are you is your health better.

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26 May 2019 00:37:58
So freeborn you think we could of won the league or come second lol no chance mate.

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26 May 2019 07:50:55
Gianfranco, my health isn’t what it was but I’m getting old so it’s not surprising.

My grandkids and Chelsea keep me busy but I find both exhausting. Haha!

Thanks for asking Gianfranco. Hope you are well?

COME on OUR MiIGHTY CHELSEA.

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25 May 2019 08:20:46
Constantly abused by some of our fans who unfortunately failed to understand his contribution and jumped on the bandwagon with rivals fans and pundits to slate him.

Jorginho for Chelsea in the PL this season (via Squawka) :

• Most passes (3,119)
• Most recoveries (274)
• Most interceptions (63)
• Second-most tackles (76)

Not bad for his first season! 😎👏🔵.

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25 May 2019 10:20:47
Like a lot of players Shak he had a slight mid season dip in form but I think he has been outstanding.

He will be even better next season IMO.

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25 May 2019 11:00:32
Agree with you there Tom. Your right every player is allowed to have a slight dip in form but overall he has been brilliant in his position.

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25 May 2019 12:01:47
And his last he will follow Sarri back to Italy.

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25 May 2019 12:11:16
Not one assist thou. And granted his role is deeper but my opinion on it is if kovecic Barkley had more assists and goals to there game people wouldn’t scape goat jorginho. As RLC started playing and was popping up with the odd goal was around same time jorginho was getting some credit,

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25 May 2019 14:16:02
I've supported Jorginho throughout the season. Like Tom said, he did have a mid-season dip in form, but the whole team did as well. I think one of the main reasons why so many fans have criticized him, is that they don't fully understand his role in the team.

I think a lot of fans had an expectation that he would come in, dictate the game and make 10+ assists, however I don't believe his role is to be creative. He is only in the team to dictate the pace, which I reckon he has done fairly well. As Matt said, if Kovacic and Barkley had more goals and assists in them, he probably wouldn't have been the scape goat this season, but unfortunately that was not the case.

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25 May 2019 14:46:10
I like Jorginho a lot.

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25 May 2019 17:46:04
Jorginho was one of the contenders for player of the season at Chelsea. That says a lot about the situation.

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27 May 2019 09:36:56
I think it's safe to assume that we all rated Makelele - in 144 appearances, he had 2 goals and 4 assists in the league

Mikel, rated highly too, 1 goal and 10 assists in 249 appearances.

Why does Jorginho have to be rated on assist stats? 37 games and he's got 2 goals but it's assists that people keep coming back to.

We all know, had the finishing been better, his assist stats would be up there too. Jorginho has been a good addition to the squad and the latter stages of the season, has pushed to prove his worth to the team.

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Review Of The Day 25th May 2019

25 May 2019 07:29:01
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 25th May 2019

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