Chelsea Banter Archive October 24 2012

24 Oct 2012 22:35:51
I agree with curt, when you pay 50 million for a striker you can't show "signs" of you're old self

Falcao-IN
torres-OUT

CFC BLUE

Me 2 now, 21 months backing him. also romeu & azpilicueta need to start playing. BLUEBOY1

Haha how i said this a couple of days ago and got more disagrees than agrees! How times change. Football fans sure are fickle!
Tim

Well Torres do fail more and more but a few days shouldnt have done it Tim :D

Tim is really Curt's illegitimate son.

I could only dream of following in the footsteps of Curt, king of the muppets.
Tim

24 Oct 2012 20:46:01
i would love to see Guardiola come coach Chelsea, but having Di Matteo stay as his helper like when AVB was here, i think it would be great for tactic wise aswell as still keeping the players respect, knowing the players and control them which we saw AVB couldnt.

Yes me too. i love everything RDM has done CL & FA cup. he hasnt done anything to make our defence better hes lucky roman signed oscar & hazard. these 2 plus mata & ramires make our game what it is not RDM, the rest of the team look lost, mikel, lamps, ivan, terry. it just doesnt suit them. he as the manager should change formation. BLUEBOY1

BLUEBOY1 what are you on about? what's wrong with the formation? last time i checked the 4-2-3-1 suited us well enough to be 1st in the league.
Tim

Yep i would bet my right ball that the first he would change is probably, Romeu instead of Mikel aswell as Cesar on the right and Terry out.

TIM have you not seen us get ripped apart by madrid, nords, shakhter? even ferdinho or what ever his name is said they attacked our midfield because thats the weak spot with only ramires tracks back. so 3 in mid would sort that. BLUEBOY1

24 Oct 2012 20:18:55
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RB11

Hopefully not for much longer ... we all know this guy needs to go.
Tim

He wants to go back to lpool.unless its cheap lpool cant afford him

24 Oct 2012 19:16:50
I have to say that I was very disappointed with the result last night. I feel that RDM should have rotated the squad more, as the front 4 were clearly tired and the long trip out to the Ukraine probably didn't help. Yes it was going to be a difficult game but I feel that it was the perfect opportunity to play Azpilicueta and Moses and possibly Romeu and give Luiz a break. People are blaming Torres for last night's performance but everyone except Cech had a below average game. Our passing was abysmal and Torres didn't get the best of service. He's also played every game so far this season, whereas last season he barely played any games. In my opinion it's a big ask for him to suddenly play every single game from only being used sparingly last season. If we do well this season we'll play around 60 games, and to ask Torres to start all of them is ridiculous not to mention expect him to perform great in all of the games. He's scored 6 goals this season and only 2 goals behind the top goalscorer in the premier league, so I think we should cut him a bit of slack.
Hunter

24 Oct 2012 17:23:36
Against Shakhtar i tought or biggest problem was not controlling the midfield which our pivot was far from doing, and i really think that is starting to be a huge problem against bigger teams. and i really hope Romeu could start playing and if its not working out maybe buy a new to replace Mikel or Ramires if he has a bad day.

You are 100 percent right, our midfield is the problem so far in most european games. people can disagree all they want m8. we get dominated and that is not the goalkeeper or attacking players fault. this wouldnt be happening if we had ramires with a 25 year old essien. BLUEBOY1

You both have a point but that's only the defensive solution, the other issue is that our final third link up and passing has not been great in the 2 games u mentioned although our new trio didn't start the other match. Our mids are young and haven't even played a quarter of s season together, I also want to credit Shaktar who crowded them when they got the ball, rarely did u see I defender on any of our frwd players.

24 Oct 2012 17:18:04
I just rewatched the game from yesterday and even tho we played very badly it could easily has been a draw sadly, Torres,Mikel,Hazard has not really been the best to put the ball in the net this season. This game it really cost us not having a good enough Forward cuase Torres plays as he should be a 4th choise at our club if not even be here, i mean Hernandez from ManU who is 4th choise is far better than he is and i would be pleased to swap Torres for him. I know alot of people have said it is fine Torres dont score we have so many other who can but no, its not good enough we need a striker that can do his job properly it is simply not good enough to run around and dont give a rubbish about the team attitude all the time. If he do not go out and smack in 10-15 goals in before the January window im sure he is not gonna be our 1st choise anymore, i mean even Liverpool has a better striker than us and they are a mid table club (no disrespect) this just cannot go on.
Torres runs around and play a midfielder rather than a striker, alot of time he actually miss inside the box when we need him to stand there, and that is simply not good enough for a big club like Chelsea. He needs like 8 big chances to score a goal and he still cannot score a goal at a 1n1 with a goal keeper without running around him, i mean who cannot do that and can call himself a striker?
Usualy most clubs rely on the strikers to score goals but atm we cannot rely on that and we are extremly lucky when Torres just scores ONE goal. i'd rather start playing with 4 midfielders on top without a didicated striker i actually think that is gonna benefit us more than having Torres there, kinda like the spanish national team.

D.

24 Oct 2012 14:41:56
Full trust in di matteo as we are playing some great football. I still think were missing a physical presence in midfield. Maybe fellani. I have been impressed by mikel this year and would also like to see more of cahill-luiz partnership. But and its a huge but, torres has to go if where going to move forward. His mood just doesnt reflect what the rest of the team is trying to achieve. I dont believe he has ever been happy at our club. In certain games he has worked hard but has been very sloppy on the ball. I think the goals from the rest of the squad has overshadowed how bad some of his performances have been. I have been one of torres fans but he just frustrates me week in week out now. Cavani, falcao or even huntelaar would be my choice. It baffles me how much support you guys even give torres and its just a matter of time before roman moves him on.

NWBLUE

I'm sick and tired of seeing Torres just walk around the pitch with that "I don't want to be here" body language impression. I can get that if we still had Drogba, the result would've been a different one. Come January, we really need to sign Falcao or else we're headed for some sad times. I so desperatly

I didn't get to finish my last post. As I was saying. I desperately want Chelsea to be the first team to ever regain the champions league title. But not with Torres as our front man.

Our 3 problems is holding mid, striker & we need to rotate the attacking trio bringing in marin & moses.
mikel has played some ok football but he trys going forward then is constantly out of position, he cant rub back. yesterday he walked back from willian first shot. that is his are 2 defend he failed too numerous times. the him & hazard f ing around caused them to score. 2 torres ive backed him for nearly 2 years, ive had enough. the trio hazard looked tired so play marin, oscar looks tired rest him play mata NO10 & play moses. not only that when oscar mata hazard play they all keep going centrally clogging up the middle. this is where i believe RDM hasnt got chelsea playing good football its the 3 amigos own footballing brains. the rest of the team minus ramires look lost and mesmerised on how they play. ivanovic great defender but cant cross or attack. unless he crosses with the outside of his boot. just play azpilicueta. their is a squad for a reason. RDM is tacticless playing you so called strongest team isnt a tactic. when weve struggled he hoesnt change the game with players like all good managers do.

Agree with most of your post except why are slating our midfield trio's playing style, it beat gooners and spuds away. Just a bad game by fairly young players who haven't played together long.

24 Oct 2012 10:34:39
Edd, why is Marko Marin not playing. Not even on substitutes bench. {Ed002's Note - He was injured and needs to get back to full fitness.}

24 Oct 2012 09:07:39
New five year deal for Mikel apparently. Surely they know their is better players to be had like m villa or Fernando or even better Romeu! BLUEBOY1

People need to start getting behind Mikel. Even if we bring in another defence minded midfielder in the next year, he's a useful player to have around.

His performances have improved greatly and he deserves a lot more respect and support than he is being shown. We are slowly losing the experienced back bone of our team, Mikel is hugely experienced for his age.

Lets get behind him. I have a feeling he'll surprise everyone this season. Possibly even have a shot on target!

IB.

24 Oct 2012 10:53:03
mikel isnt our biggest problem, torres is

curt

I'm sorry I'm never backing Mikel. Never liked him never will.

Curt your a broken record. Your going to have to wait at least a few months so maybe you and kev should shut it till then..
Marley

How can you say torres is the problem, we're top of the league and last nights loss was due to poor poor defending. Torres had no support what do you expect him to do wave a wand to get past 4 defenders on his own.

24 Oct 2012 07:34:05
Do we still want kaka {Ed002's Note - No.}

24 Oct 2012 06:53:57
Well i like f. torres
but now if it's gonna cost us points in crucial game's
i would like him to seat on bench and watch other's playing
i am not fan of daniel sturridge but now atleast RDM should give chance to sturridge to prove himself playing as alone striker
i think in coming january transfer window we really do need to buy a proven goal scorer some one like falcao and even if we fail to get him some one like hugain, lewandowski will do
also we need to buy good deep lying midfielder who can play alongside ramires as mikel is very much inconsistent and romeu not tested much yet by RDM

samrat

24 Oct 2012 06:11:58
Yes Torres does link up well with the trio but is soooooo WASTEFUL with his chances and his dribbling sucks when he can pass it away.
My point is IF we had FALCAO,we would have scored MANY more goals and I have supported Torres for SO long and he still let's us down

CFC BLUE

Used to be TORRES IS KING but now I dont like him anymore

Falcao is not better than torres at dribbling. he is more of a fox in the box

24 Oct 2012 10:53:39
^^^^^ lol

he can do everything better than torres

curt

At the moment at finishing he is definitely way better,as his confidence is very high and he is at his peak but passing,dribbling off the ball running no way.
roan