Chelsea Banter Archive February 24 2013

24 Feb 2013 23:10:20
Well, this is what you get when "the committee" is building the team. Or should I say buying who's available?

Quite honestly we are quite ordinary on every front, undersized, out of form and shape. One can call it transition.

I say we are just a bunch of rather random players with an indifferent manager klooking for the end of the season to come sooner.

Won't start over on who's good, or bad, evil or class. Defence is crap, midfield is slim and forwards. Well, I said I won't start.

We are missing a key personnel in key positions and it is obvious. Add a Carvalho, Ballack and Drogba to this team and we'd win it all. These are key areas where we lack most. If we won't sort it soon enough, we'd be fighting for top4 again, next term.

At the rate we are going, we could very well finish 6th, again.

25 Feb 2013 08:13:26
Very well said

24 Feb 2013 21:29:51
Ed,

I know you don't like to talk about the manager situation.

But with the "FSW" in charge till end of the season this could seriously affect Chelsea finishing in top 4.

I know he is supposedly here till end of season but surely with the worse record as Chelsea manager he must go before it gets any worse "if possible".

The team are not playing for him and he doesn't have a plan b, or leaves it to late to change things, or brings on defenders for defenders when going going for a win!

Please let us know if you know anything about a change at Chelsea will come before end of season with the manager.

Thanks for your time ed.

Paul

Firstly you look like a troll and a twit for calling a professional manager a Fat Spanish person? Are you the stereotypical Fat English Chav? If he goes who do you bring in? I haven't heard 1 viable option all season

Laurent Blanc?

WelshBlue7

Put Steve holland in charge he could be any worse than rafa.

There is too much attention being given to the manger and his failings. The problem is that the squad and the team, no matter which eleven you pick, is individually not good enough for challenging for top honours, is unbalanced and has no team coordination. We lack key types of players. We have two strikers - heck, Man U play every game with two strikers and either one or two wingers. We couldn't do that. We let Sturridge go because he wanted to go as he wasn't getting games. Why not I don't know - the other week he ran Man City ragged, playing for Liverpool. Whoever is manager of this squad would never get it right over the number of games we've played. And of course, to make it worse, we've loaned out several players who could have helped. A crazy and disastrous season, with no hope for the future unless Roman and his cronies appoint a capable manager and let him select the squad and who goes / who stays.

24 Feb 2013 20:45:25
Watching Betis vs Malaga, Benat has been immense his passing is class

Did Piazon get a run PB mate?

Melbourne CFC

Piazon came on around the 70 - 75th minute.

Blue con

Yeah got ago as Blue Con said, Malaga played poor, Isco wasn't in the game much at all and Piazon didn't really get the ball. He looks like he's one of the 1st attacking options off the bench, think he was deployed at CAM which to me is his best position.

Thanks for the update mate. I know he shone during a game a few weeks ago and played in a great ball after some trickery, that ended in a goal. Hopefully he can just keep getting consistent minutes.

24 Feb 2013 17:17:44
Poor all over the field, don't know what is going on behind the scenes but Chelsea FC are the only football club who can make their supporters go into hiding whilst being European Champions - the set up from the board to the pitch needs sorting out! We just ain't good enough anymore didn't look like one Chelsea player cared out there today. And we don't have a midfield. Ramires was worst than poor and I don't rate Mikel, that's just my opinion others may see it differently.

Jacket the packet

I agree with evrything you said. DP
whoever comes in to manage us has a massive job to do, but the club/board have to give that person the power to do it their way and not dictate about players or tactics.

Totaly agree, 1 step forward 2 steps back at the moment. It needs addressing fast, or we won't have champions league next year.

Also Rafa called it wrong today. Luiz, needs to be played in CDM and actually pass the bloody ball. And Ramires had a shocker, played out of position. Rafa should of took him off not Lampard. Even my nan with her dodgey eyes could of called that one.

Bring Jose back and give him the power to sort this mess out before it gets out of hand

24 Feb 2013 16:16:31
We are clearly one level below MC. No manager can change that. We also need some players with attitude and large work rate. It is matches like these where you see which players are up to it. Lamps has passed it but he is good enough for lesser opposition. Ivanovich not at the highest level. Cahill showed his potential. Rami out asap. Ba again not at the highest level (need Falcao, Aguero calibre). Luiz is irresponsible as usual if he matures he may become a better player. Proitos

Ramires is good, under performed today but we don't play a formation that suits his strengths at all.

Tom

I think what showed today was mikel's laziness in marking and defence, cahill worked hard and made quite a few last gasp blocks but a couple times had lapses in concentration which allowed aguero to go through. we definitely missed azpilicueta at rb. luiz has to be played in midfield, not only because at cb he is too casual but because we desperately need his vision and passing, he always looks to go forward which is vital for the pivot role.

24 Feb 2013 15:39:45
Solid in the first half and seemed to be growing in to the game. After the penalty evrything changed. Juan looked so tired it was ridiculous, and if he doesn't get a proper rest soon, I am very fearful of a long term injury. I have never seen Ramires or Ivanovic play so badly, and why Iva was at right back puzzles me, City are quick, so why not play Azpi? His crossing is awful. Rami hasn't been good all season but this was a new level. Great engine, but severly lacks touch, dribbling and passing skills. Not to mention he hates crossing it which is so frustrating. Luiz was wasted at the back but I understand that he was picked for his pace. Demba Ba didn't work hard enough, although to be fair he did lack service. At least you can see nando busting a cut closing people down. Cech was by far our best player and it could of been 3 or 4 quite easily.

Overall, just one of them days, everyone seemed to be off the boil so I guess we should just put this behind us and focus on boro which will be a tough game.

Team for Boro should be - Cech - Azpilicueta - Cahill - Terry - Bertrand - Luiz - Ramires - Moses - Oscar - Hazard - Torres.

DO NOT have Mata in the squad! And give him a few days off fromm training as well. It is better to not have mata for 1 or 2 games rather then him get an injury and it be 11 or 12.

Remember this is a transitional season and we can't get carried away, City have an amazing record at home as well. The future is bright, keep positive!

Im so mate but I disagree about Ba, thought when he did get the ball he held it up very well and tried to move it forward

I agree but not enough service

24 Feb 2013 15:24:40
ED002 why are the club showing this much faith in Benitez when they sacked AVB and Di Matteo for bad results Benitez has done worse then the both of them is there a chance he may be gone before the end of the season? {Ed002's Note - I really have no interest in discussing the managerial situation.}

Can't you imagine how bad it would look if we sacked another manager, a temporary manager, for another temporary manager to see out the next couple of months? The club need to stand by their decision and ride out the storm.

Hopefully we can remain in the top four.

24 Feb 2013 15:28:05
Ramires' goal against Barca does not justify him as a good player, I am shocked at how a professional player can be so poor technically.
He also gets bullied easily and fouls way too much.

He was the players player of the year last year, so your saying the whole squad is clueless? He had a poor technical game, his work rate as usual was good {Ed018's Note - have to find someone to blame when we lose. Give it a few weeks and everyone will be saying how great Ramires is. It's the same thing on here every week}

Its so fickle and people having such knee jerk reactions to every game, we only see what you post, the amount of crap you editors have to filter thru must be ridiculous

I've never been a fan of Ramires, I have posted about him many a time. I don't think he's good enough apart from in a 4-3-3.

24 Feb 2013 15:19:49
Whether u guys agree or not, Mikel is our best holding midfielder. It became so obvious when he was sub. We were pressing on and holding the ball well until then.

You are from some different planet, mate. Don't recall a single time we agreed on anything. You support Rafa, Torres and Mikel. Good luck with that.

JG

That's funny JG, you saying he actually supports the players that play for our team? NO! How dare he!
How about we all just get behind the team until the end of the season and just stop moaning. We all know its not ideal at the moment, but until the summer and rafa is out, there's really nothing that can be done.

24 Feb 2013 15:18:17
rafa out. rafa. out. rafa out.
blaah blaah blaaah.

I bet you. if we played with 14 players including our subs. we would have been still loosing.

ramirez. lampard. luiz. mikel.
OMG how many more?

24 Feb 2013 15:11:42
That Raimres is awful. He needs to go. He doesn't know football! Proitos

Agree his first touch must one of the worst in the division, he can't pass and doesn't track runners.

Yeah I agree Ramires is awful. Mikel is awful aswell.
MKBLUE

24 Feb 2013 15:07:58
Rafa made the perfect changes, lampard for Oscar, Ramires for Moses. Then I snapped back to reality and realised it was a mistake and he actually wanted to take Hazard off and keep rami on. Our best goal threat today. Shame on me for stupidly thinking he had done a decent change at a time when the subbed on players can still make an impact.

Totally agree finally he was proactive instead of reactive, he made subs at 65mins which is a 1st but why why why take off Hazard, he was given Zabaletta who was on a yellow trouble all day.

24 Feb 2013 14:59:14
Mikel's defending on Yaya during the goal play is yet another perfect example of why he should be nowhere near our team next term. (frankly, he should have been sold years ago).

JG

24 Feb 2013 14:51:30
Spoke too soon

24 Feb 2013 14:46:00
Rafa needs to change something

24 Feb 2013 14:43:45
All three of mata lampard and mikel have been absent today.

24 Feb 2013 15:02:25
No, Mikel has been present. Like I said earlier, Lamps shdn't have started this game.

Mikel and ramires for me. Ramires is awful

Blue con

24 Feb 2013 15:11:07
No, Mikel has been present. Like I said earlier, Lamps shdn't have started this game.

Mikel never puts in the effort he slowly jogs back when they are on the counter and he doesn't go 100% In to tackles. Can't wait untill romeu is back or a cdm is brought in.

Blue con

24 Feb 2013 14:26:41
Lampard is the weak point in that midfield. Get Oscar there and we shd b better.

Luiz also worries me in defence. He needs to be pushed into midfield.

24 Feb 2013 14:12:52
We need to get a bit of urgency in this game second half, give Ba something upfront for him to use his size and ball skills and for god sakes get a good dead ball in, corners and free kicks been poor

Agreed. Set pieces were awful on Thursday as well

24 Feb 2013 13:48:25
all over the place. need to start winning second balls and more accurate passing or we're going to be destroyed.

24 Feb 2013 13:15:52
I would say it is a straight fight between Chelsea and Real for Falcao.
I think Chelsea should Spent on a very good Striker as Torres is gone and Ba cannot play games in a row (a bit like Ledley King). Chelsea have very good kids and even though the likes of Lukaku doing so well at the moment, it would be foolish to think he can lead Chelsea trough the pressure of all the bigger competitions. Chelsea have very good young strikers, maybe too many? But how do one know when so many managers come and go and with them different tactics. Now playing one at front but next season maybe 2? and then not so many young strikers.
As many say Chelsea need stability and a sense of evolution from within the club. In the end Chelsea cannot win everything every season but needs to be there or there about, what should't happen is to do like Arsenal which seem stable but no trophies for a long time.

Real's top target is Cavini. They offered us a deal of cash plus Higuan last January in return for us dropping interest in Cavani. They know they would have to pay ridiculous money to Athletico to get Falcao because of the rivalry.

We are in a race with Bayern and City For Falcao, and RM for Cavani. Falcao is our first choice.

Melbourne CFC

Strange as Man City have settled on Cavani, after conceding that Falcao will go to either Chelsea or Real Madrid.
just paper talk I know.

Man city's main striker targets are Jovetic and Falcao.

RM are currently best placed for Cavani replacing Higuan who is likely going to PSG.

Chelsea's top striker targets are both Falcao and Cavani. Is this correct Ed002? {Ed002's Note - No.}

24 Feb 2013 11:48:23
Fabio Capello as next Chelsea manager how would feel if it happened?
Tom

Not good at all