Chelsea Banter Archive June 23 2012

23 Jun 2012 23:31:24
Would really love us to make a bid to Rennes for M'Villa, exactly what we need in CDM/CM

PB

By what we need do you mean someone to halt the progress of McEachran and Romeu?

Tk

Mceachran long way of ,could not even get in swansea team when on loan....

In fairness to Josh, it would be fairly difficult to get a position in a team where the players have such an immense understanding of the way they play. Espicially when he is still only 18/19.

Melbourne CFC

They used josh as back up & they didnt get injuries. do u nt remember when josh on his own ruined astonvilla in the fa cup?

They also brought in siggurdson who was one of the suprises of the season. He looked class in china.

Tk

If you think Josh McEachran is our future CDM midfielder for the next 10 years than i have to disagree, he is a mobile CM who has great vision and a nice passing ability he isn't a CDM, he is to small and not athletic or physically gifted enough to play CDM, Mikel im still not sure about, Essien doesn't seem the same player and Romeu lacks experience. Lets face it Josh is never going to be our starting CM especially in a 4 2 3 1 formation, he is going to be a squad player used in rotation. M'Vila is a beast, hes 21 and he gives us the physicality and ball distribution in midfield. He would be my Ideal choice next to Ramires. We need a CDM we can rely on every week with a small attacking front 4 in Mata, Hazard, Marin, Torres we need someone who can win the ball and get stuck in.

PB

He is by far a def mid, he's blatantly a playmaker and even attacking, his idol is iniesta. Acne lotto nearly ruined him playing him holding mid. BLUEBOY1

Think you mean att mid or centre mid blueboy

agree with your comment though

curt

I'd agree with PB, I dont think he has or will ever have the physical presence to bully the centre of the pitch like an Essien or M'vila, what he does have is extremely good passing and vision, but this would mean he would be looking to take the place of Rami or Mata in the 1st XI, which I cant see happening for a while, although maybe to rest some players in league cup games.

PieZ

23 Jun 2012 21:30:19
I love Torres but if he hasn't scored 10+ goals by the start of January I reckon we should offload him and bring in someone else.
MB

Don't worry..... He will.

ELI

I think that's fair. Best for all parties just to move on.

Tk

Now whos being negative :D

curt

This is his last chance i agree. who knows we might sign cavani yet. BLUEBOY1

Now, Curt, what did I tell u about being immature...

If he can't score 10 goals with some of our creative talent behind him then i'd advise him a career change

Rich

Cavani with that service (hazard, mata, hulk) would rival messi and ronaldo in goals scored.

23 Jun 2012 19:41:54
This is my point exactly about negative comments Curt. There is still a slim chance that CFC will get the power station as the Malaysians have only been selected as PREFERRED bidders; they could still pull out. YOU need to pipe down and cheer up a little bit I mean we're European Cahmpions after all!
MB

Bit of advice

when i was new on here melbourne said dont call people out

take that advice since your new on here today

its hardly negative its fact that we wont get it plus im not the only one saying it am i

rest of what you said is just bulls**t regarding the modric, marieles comments and the walcott and bale comment

so once again pipe down

curt

MB is right curt. BLUEBOY1

U r the only one who hasnt admitted that u r wrong. If you even read the statement released by Chelsea u might begin to understand that it's not over yet. I can paste you the statement if it helps u to understand?
MB

We will see when we dont get it anyway im more interested in what your claiming i said about ...... actually yer ur absolutely right on everything now shut up

curt

Play nicely guys...

PR!

Chelsea will be playing in Battersea by 2020, the Malaysians will win the bid but will then negotiate with Chelsea. They plan to develop the surrounding area as a shopping complex, they also plan to build the tube line to go into Battersea. The Malaysians arent silly they know having 60k people entering that area roughly every 2 weeks for matchdays will boost them just as much as it does Chelsea

23 Jun 2012 18:20:09
man u site mentions that real madrid might be tempted by a large enough bid for ozil,would we be Interested

If he were available I'd like us to make a move for him.

He is pure quality and is only going to get better.

IB.

Wouldnt read too much into that theres no chance of ozil being sold

curt

Where would he play? out wide?

Ozil - Mata - Hazard
Torres

Pretty much like that. Rotating positions.

Although as Curt said it is extremely unlikely that Ozil will move.
IB.

Behind torres is where he is best but we got mata who plays there plus the right price in madrids eyes would be 50 plus mill f**K that

curt

IMO 50M would be an absolute steal for Ozil. Although it is unlikely I recall Ed saying something regarding possible exits from RM due to some in house 'fighting' for lack of a better word.

Has this situation resolved itself Ed002? I know Di Maria is one possible option to leave.

Melbourne CFC {Ed002's Note - They are going to have a clear out of their midfield.}

If di maria is up for sale i wouldnt mind him joining if the hulk transfer collapses if not just have both of them there quality starter and quality back up

curt

Thanks for the reply ed002. Is Ozil on the possible outs list?

Melbourne CFC {Ed002's Note - Probably not.}

ED, Is it likely that Ozil will be 'cleared out' as you put it?

IB. {Ed002's Note - Probably not.}

23 Jun 2012 17:14:29
In addition to Eden Hazard and Marko Marin(who i think may be signing of the season), I would also love to see Hulk, Cavani and Debuchy. That may sound a bit greedy but... look at Man City, 4 top strikers rotated successfully. I think we can be succesfull with 2. Kane and Hutch arnt ready to cover iva yet, maybe a loan is in order. I think on the right side of the '3' should be hulk with no senior back up. Enter Lucas Piazon. You can all see my thinking behind this, and if needs must we can always slot Rami in there and have Lamps-Mikel in the middle like last season.

Cech
Iva Luiz JT Cole
Mikel Rami
Hulk Mata Hazard
Torres

Cavani is maybe wishful thinking but i would love to c him in blue and gold next year! Debuchy and Hulk are 100% feasable though.

European Champions

Agreed it would be ace if we got Cavani but i can't see it happening, if we are to get a back up striker it will be Jovetic

Would love to see them three but cant see Cavani joining, i think Lucas Piazon is worthy of being the back up for Hulk, gosh, the future looks brilliant at chelsea with all these super-talented youngsters
ChelseaL

I dont really want cavani or falcao mainly because they wont be happy with second best to torres and i want torres to be our number one striker next season to give him a chance think he will be better than cavani or falcao would be

curt

I wouldn't call anything including tevez and balotelli successful.

Tk

Tevez is good balotelli is overrated and we will see that with england italy tomorrow

sergio augero is probably top 3 best strikers in the world (as hard as that is to say about a city player)

curt

I have been following this site for a while and Curt is always complaining why he gets so much hate and stuff but there has just been something aggravating me. It's just that with every young player Curt seems to claim they are over rated. I don't have anything against u or anything like that so don't have a go at me cause it's just my opinion and that's the point of the site.

Balotelli certainly isn't over-rated, he just has an attitude problem.

trueblue012

Every young player ?? augero's young i said hes top 3 strikers in the world, mata i rate highly infact alot have youngsters have potential unless there english (a few exceptions) because they never get game time

if your referring to walcott then yes hes s**t i dont care for any opinion that states otherwise

curt

23 Jun 2012 16:14:27
how exactly does the co-ownership deal work?


taby

23 Jun 2012 16:09:10
that joachim leow is one hell of a coach...i m amazed what he has done with the german team....promoting youth in such crunch matches....says he is making the team for 2014wc in the current euros....if he had come to stamford bridge and we already have the youngsters....

respect!!taby

23 Jun 2012 15:16:38
Ideal transfers over the summer would have to be Andre Schurrle (or Thomas Muller), Hulk, Cesar Azilicueta along with the already signed Marko Marin and Eden Hazard.

Would prefer schlurre over mulleur

and piszcek over azil (if its true we are going to big for him)

curt

From what i've seen of Piszcek he's more of a bosingwa type player than azpilicueta. Would be nice to see azpilicueta for me

Fair comment i personally think hes looked good but maybe azil will be the better option because he is younger too

curt

Dortmund are demanding in the region £17.5 for Piszczek which I think is way too much when you could get the same sort of quality in Debuchy for £6.5 million .
MB

23 Jun 2012 12:52:59
i personally dont under stand everyone wanting a centre mid. we need a right back. we already have lampard, ramires, essien, mikel, meirelles. thats 5 for a most probable 2 places in 4 2 3 1. i would much rather have young mceachran brought in then signing a moutinho or a modric. given the game time we all know josh will pass the ball as good or better than these 2 if he is played and score more goals. same as with the strikers we have torres, back ups of sturridge & lukaku. im not a fan of sturridge at all but ill give him a chance next season playing his centre forward position. obviously lukaku is a very raw talent but will only get better if played sometimes. with the attacking 3 behind the striker its gunna be mata hazard marin atm which ilove the sound of because they will swap all the time throughout games. and we have 3 young but great potential back ups of kakuta, de bruyne & piazon. all given game time & train with the first team can reach their pottential. bertrand play more give cole a rest, same as with the new RB rotate with ivanovic. our central defence is perfect as is cech in goal. i really dont see the point in a modric type or CM or another wing or striker. iwant us to play some youngsters with the right guidance lukaku, mceachran, kakuta, de bruyne, piazon can all be very very good squad players next year and would all accelerate next season. whats brought this on is the whole FABIO BORINI stuff theyve got the talent bleed them in! opinions blue bloods BLUEBOY1

I agree mate your talking sense

curt

Completely agree with you BLUEBOY however the only centre mid signing I wouldnt mind seeing is Fellaini as by the looks of it next season our average height will be dramatically decreased plus we will lack strength.

MB

We need to get rid of one of Meireles and Essien and definetly Benayoun as their is no point of them staying. However I do want one of them to stay to add experience to the squad.

MB

Plus romeu, ideally 2 need to go if we sign 1 and bring josh in BLUEBOY1

So we have-GK,cech, turnbull, hilario
RB-ivanovic, signing, kane
LB- cole, bertrand
CB- luiz, terry, ivanovic, cahill
CM- ramires, lampard, meirelles, mikel, essien, romeu, benayoun, mceachran.
A3-mata, hazard,malouda, marin, piazon, kakuta, de bruyne
ST- torres, sturridge, lukaku.

8 centre mids that is quite a few really all we need is 5,

I completely agree. When you look at teams like barca their backups are their stars of tomorrow. I understand having some role players but the best way for players to develope is by playing. That being said I think we could use a right winger.

Tk

Much as I love Essien I can't see him ever being the player he was. From a report I remember hearing a year or so ago, his leg muscles are so huge and over-developed that they are literally pulling his knees apart. Such a shame as him in his prime next to Rami in centre mid would be an awesome pairing, pace, power, tackling, an eye for goal and they could both go box to box for 90 mins. Probably lacking a bit of passing but would certainly make for a solid pair against tough opposition or away games.

PieZ

I would get rid of Benayoun & Essien. Meireles can be good on his day

All we need is a RB, RW and back up striker. Hulk will probably be our RW and RB/ST possibilities have been talked to death on here recently. Beyond that I hope we dont sign any more and give some of our very promising young players a chance, could easily use them in cup games this year given the number of games we're going to have. That could of course all change if alot of players move on this summer.

PieZ

I am very pleased with all our signings hazard can beat people and open things up when we struggle also marin looks like a goal maker I really pray we get Hulk because he will only make up for the loss of the great Drog what a great player he has been for this club boys eh!Hulk looks the real deal to me look at him on utube he wont be bullied thats for sure.I really rate piazon he will make the first team one day not convinced with mceachron bit slightly built but has potential we still need to win things so cant just chuck in too many youngsters at once and they really do have to hit the ground running like bertrand did this is a massive club they have to be worked in slowly we have so many great players but we are buying younger players right now also agree with you guys about Fellanni we also need his grit in midfield yes we have a lot of midfielders but rotate get rid of benayoun, maybee ession now and maybe meireles and let lukaku out on loan not convinced about him yet.Also sturridge needs to think about the team and not just him scoring goals he needs to wise up if he does he can be a great player.

First time on here I have completely agreed with a comment! The guy above.
MB