Chelsea Banter Archive January 22 2014

22 Jan 2014 22:26:18
Wow, Mutd is out of capital one!

22 Jan 2014 22:07:49
Thorgan Hazard wins Belgian golden boot!

22 Jan 2014 21:42:59
Selling him abroad would be much easier to take. However the speed of the negotiations and Chelsea willing to do the deal now can only mean we are giving ourself time to bring a replacement. Rumours into overdrive Salah, Isco, Diego Costa.
All the best Juan cracking little player

22 Jan 2014 19:25:30
Assuming all's done and dusted then with Mata, can you tell us if there is anything in the works relating to a replacement this window?

{Ed002's Note - I cannot keep answering the same question over and over.}

22 Jan 2014 18:54:53
Ed, if mata goes will chelsea look to bring in a replacement?

{Ed002's Note - The right player at the right price.}

22 Jan 2014 21:18:50
Couple of reports saying chelsea are in for Salah, they even go as far as claiming a bid's already been made.
Though Salah is obviously not a bad player by any means, I'd rather we just recall Moses or Piazon. No need to spend a good chunk of the money on an attacking midfielder while we've got a couple of good ones out on loan.
Last thought, perhaps Jose would like to bring the 433 back. That means he'd probably be comfortable with 4 wide men and he could use the money on a CM (or hopefully Shaw and Zouma).

It makes sense as well.

I'm sorry ness, but what makes sense? The bid/pursuit of Salah or the fact maybe Mourinho would like to return to a 433?

Salah is cup tied.
So CM, Shaw 433.

22 Jan 2014 20:34:30
Just a quick question for ed018, What's your whole take on the Mata situation? Would you like to see him sold and who would you like to replace him/money be spent? Would you like Rooney to be part of the deal? Finally, why don't (if we do sell him) sell him abroad because it to me seems stupid to sell to a rival, thanks ed.

{Ed018's Note - he's obviously not first choice anymore and if he wishes to move on I'm fine with that. I would've preferred it was abroad. I think they need to take that money and go get Diego Costa}

22 Jan 2014 19:53:09
We should let Mata go with immediate effect. He was a great player to our team for the last couple of years. But with the progress of Oscar, arrival of Hazard and Willian - he has no chance of starting 11, unless it's just a Cup rotation, or heavy loaded schedule.

Mata will never be a better wide man than Willian, Hazard or Schurrle, while he is already behind Oscar as a trequartista. Remember - Barcelona sold Ronaldinho to make way for Messi.

It was inevitable. Willian is more adaptable, faster, way better at defence and overall fit into Mourinho's gameplay.

Last couple of years Mata was instrumental with the ball at his feet in tight places. But wouldn't you have it at Hazard's feet instead? If we get anything close to Ozil's money - we hould let him go and reinvest into a more pressing area - a striker.

We should recall Piazon and let Mata go. He has no future at Chelsea, a future he surely deserves. He's a really nice fella and I completely understand his desire to play regularly. We'll be alright, don't worry.

It makes a lot of sense mate. But it is still sad seeing him go. We are human beings above football tacticians.

22 Jan 2014 18:41:05
Good luck mata lad but 40million. DEAL just hope we spend it well good striker and squad complete. Even better with all the talent we got coming back from loans in summer.

22 Jan 2014 17:56:18
So sad to see mata leave if indeed he does go! But 40million into the club can't be sniffed at, would love to see him head back to Spain or to PSG. Good luck JUAN you deserve it, fantastic servant to the club

22 Jan 2014 17:29:36
Chelsea: can we have Rooney
UTD : no

UTD: can we have mata
CFC : yes

How embarrassing. And to add insult if ozil was €45 and came from Spain then to sell to a rival in England then I want a lot more, . They want him try should pay for him.

IMO Chelsea is not selling Mata unconditionally. I really expect Rooney will join us by the end of the month.

22 Jan 2014 16:39:14
This is sad to say the least. A player that has given so much sell him to MU? No way man. Abroad maybe but do it in a dignified manner without the press praying on it. Chelsea please show some common sense.

22 Jan 2014 12:37:35
Anybody heard of Basel's center-back Fabian Schar? looks decent! He can also score goals. I've heard we want a new CB. why not go for him?

22 Jan 2014 08:08:27
I have a feeling that after selling Mata next leaving player in summer will be Hazard for 80m£. Transfers will generate 120m£+30-35m£ for Luiz . It's obvious Chelsea has to sell to buy.

{Ed018's Note - not sure where you come up with this stuff}

1st time poster here, have read these pages a lot though and I must say that ness you are wayyy over the top lad, everything is over exaggerated with you, I agree that mata being sold is a shame but he doesn't play the style of football mourinho wants, at the end of the day it's the team that matters not one player, not only that mourinho is the best manager in the world and if he says mata goes then I'm afraid we all have to trust him on this saying as we are not managers ourselves. FIFA doesn't count

Just for the sake of humouring myself, Ness, who the hell are we buying, after selling Mata, luiz and of all people Hazard, that will improve the team?

Im honestly perplexed with your thought process. We have Courtois so won't be buying a keeper. Have Lukaku coming back, so will probably only need one striker. Matic was just bought so little need to strengthen the middle of the park. Obviously with you selling all our attacking mids, a position once considered stacked with become weak, for the sole purpose of sh*ts and giggles I guess. So £120m to spend on a striker, cb and two attacking mids that will not be as good as the ones we have just sold.

So we obviously need to sell, in order to spend money on making us worse? Or do you think Emanulo and co enjoy the rebuilding process so much, they intend to deconstruct what they've constructed in order to construct something again, which in turn will be deconstructed so that something new can once again be reconstructed all for the hell of it?

Im confused

I only said I have a feeling that all those transfers might happen. Not necessary it's going to be like that. Selling Mata to Man.utd makes sense only if Chelsea gets first option to buy Rooney.

Ed002 has said so many times that Chelsea do not stand in the way of a player if they ask to leave and a reasonable offer is made, no one including the ed's are going to know if Mata has said anything or not he hasn't played much in a world cup year so it is at least plausible, however it doesn't make much sense to sell to Man U has I am sure there are other teams across Europe who would also relish his signature only way I see Man U getting him is with Rooney being someway involved.Which I think we would all be more then happy with.

22 Jan 2014 16:34:06
Ness, you my friend have a serious problem, you really do!

Well, when I suggested that Mata might be sold last summer same people jumped on me as well as they do now, look what's happening now. Do you really think it's easy to ignore 97m€ bid.?

No ness, you actually didn't just say you had a feeling. You wrongly said its obvious we need to sell to buy. That is hugely different from saying its hard to turn down £97m (it was £80m only last night.)

When you suggested Mata might be sold in the summer (moreso if you did, which I wholeheartedly doubt) you were right to have people jump down your throat. Suggesting we sold our best player from the previous two years showed you to be a clueless prat. I can also wholeheartedly say you wouldn't of backed it up with the fact he isn't a Jose no.10, purely because your lack of understanding of the game, shown numerous times on here.

In future mate, read what you type before you post it, because you have a tendency to cry that people misunderstand you, when the stuff you post generally is black and white, and far from accurate.

Melbourne you mixed currency. 80m pounds is 97m euros. Bale transfer was 100m euros.
During August it was obvious Mata is not JM type of player + Chelsea signed Willian, it is not really hard to put 2+2.
WHAT I AM SURE ABOUT IS THAT JOSE MOURINHO AND ROMAN ABRAMOVICH KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY ARE DOING. ALSO MOURINHO IS VERY INSISTENT PERSON AND DOESN'T GIVE UP HIS TARGETS AND OBJECTIVES EASILY. THESE GUYS ARE SERIOUS PLAYERS.

Once again ness you didn't deal with your first point, which is far and away the ludicrous one. "It is obvious Chelsea need to sell to buy". Care to elaborate, or should we just forget it?

We practically just cashed 60m pounds after selling DeBruyne&Mata. For now we have spent 21m £ on Matic.
Well mate do you expect another signing. I do.

Mourinho was talking about FFP few days a go. From what he said it's hard to believe that we are going to spend 60-70m on striker or another AM.