Chelsea Banter Archive July 21 2015

21 Jul 2015 23:18:16
Just want to put this out there - I think Lewis Baker will take the Dutch league by storm next season!

22 Jul 2015 08:46:09
We'll find out. But I think I read that in their friendlies up till now he's been playing a deeper role in midfield and I don't know if he's fully suited to that. I hope he's able to show what he can do because he's a delightful young player to watch IMO.

22 Jul 2015 10:28:59
I think he has the ability to run a game from a deeper midfield role. With the emergence of RLC Baker seems to have be the forgotten man at Chelsea - I still think he's a great prospect! He was one of the youth players Mourinho touted as a future international too - the whole 'I'll have failed them if they don't' speech!

22 Jul 2015 10:29:56
Jackson - did the article say anything about Brown?

22 Jul 2015 11:37:34
I think Brown played as a striker, sort of like what Traore was for them during the second half of last season. That was only the last game though so I don't know whether it's been like that every game. I think they play a friendly later today, so if you want you could try and watch it :-)

22 Jul 2015 12:36:18
Cheers pal

22 Jul 2015 13:01:42
That was Brown's first appearance for Vitesse. he didn't feature in the previous friendly (not in the squad)

21 Jul 2015 23:00:51
Any interest in Draxler?

21 Jul 2015 17:29:20
Congratulations on the engagement, Ed001! Now I know you're not one of the regular Eds on our page, but you're definitely one of the best when it comes to transfer information and taking part in discussions on other pages so you're still famous on here ;-)

All the best, mate!

21 Jul 2015 19:52:10
Congratulations :-).

I agree with jackson, although you aren't a frequent ed here, what you do provide is usually really useful.

21 Jul 2015 11:30:17
I can understand the desire to buy John Stones although £34m is way too expensive for an unproven 21 year old and the statistics for last season indicating he performed better than John Terry are misleading as he 'had' to make more interceptions, tackles etc given his team's performance, however, I am baffled as to why we would want Rahman, another 21 year old playing for an average Bundesliga team who has less than 125 senior appearances to his name. Nobody would disrupt our defence to put him in at left back.

21 Jul 2015 12:28:53
That my friend is the scouting teams job & the staff at Chelsea or any other team to watch these players & if Chelsea are willing to buy these two young guys then who are we to question them? Zouma played in an equally average team & fair to say he was unproven but look how good a buy he turned out to be? Is it me or am I the only Chelsea fan amongst a few others that actually have faith in what this club is trying to achieve? There's no positivity & it's starting to really get on my tits to be honest!

21 Jul 2015 13:17:15
Totally agree situation88. It seems that there are a lot of people on here who play to much football manager and won't be happy till we sign Messi , Ronaldo and Neymar.
They need to wake up and get in the real world.
The constant whining and questioning of the clubs transfers this year is getting very boring. No wonder the eds get fed up!

21 Jul 2015 14:19:42
Exactly mate, I know it's people's opinions but come on at least be realistic, it's like they think they could run the club better & think money grows on trees, just a little bit of faith wouldn't go a miss, need to remember this squad will only get better the more they play together hence why we don't just go round buying everybody as its only minor improvements need to be made from a team who completely walked the league last season, I'm excited for pre season!

21 Jul 2015 14:24:07
Agree with u situation88. That's why they are employed and we r not.


Trust the club and mourinho. Mourinho don't need big names to win the league.

Look wht he done with porto and even inter. Mancini tried for years with Inter and mourinho comes in and win's the treble.

21 Jul 2015 16:27:56
Spot on mate I rest my case :) no doubt it will be tougher this year but I'm not overly worried at all

21 Jul 2015 16:35:32
Well said Sit88. Been my thoughts for a long time and I posted something similar a while back. We are the Champions and have a great Manager and coaching/scouting/academy set-up and the rest are playing catch-up. Let's enjoy our great club and watch the season un-fold.

21 Jul 2015 17:22:15
I admit I haven't seen Rahman play. But I've read excellent things about him. One thing in particular that stood out to me that his defending is his key attribute, and nowadays that's becoming more rare in fullbacks. The attacking part of their game is often prioritised but to me (and probably to Mourinho as well) the defending side is most important for defenders. Apparently that's the case with Rahman and I believe he'd be an excellent player for us. He's really athletic as well.

21 Jul 2015 21:32:32
Personally I don't think Stones is worth that amount of money but we do lack HG players. Yes we have a great academy with good upcoming players but they're still a few years away from being even squad players. Rahmann is coming in to be back-up for Azpi for a year, until Iva leaves or switches to CB.

22 Jul 2015 16:07:31
Well Situation88 my friend you got your feelings off your chest. As this is a forum for discussing 'all' things Chelsea, good, bad and indifferent which 70% of the subscribers do, you do not seem to enjoy it. My opinion was soliciting an opinion about Stones value and what I consider an apparent interest in Baba Rahman which many others do regularly. I am sure at the end of last season Witsel, Pedro or Rahman would not have been on many, if anybody's 'must have' list although possibly yours as I seem to remember you being 'excited' to see that £26m donkey Cuadrado play.

21 Jul 2015 10:07:27
Reports that Chelsea would go as high as 34 million for Stones. If true, I'd much rather the club spend that money on Varane or someone like Otamendi who's a little more seasoned. Anything above 30 million for a 21 year old cb who's not that good yet is a tremendous waste of funds IMO. There are much better alternatives for that kind of money. Otamendi, Varane, Laporte, even Liverpool's Sakho (as I rate the guy personally) or Valencia's other cb Mustafi. All better players than Stones IMO and would probably be available for around the same money. Please be smart, Chelsea.

21 Jul 2015 11:32:16
For once, Jackson, I disagree. the HG quotas could increase soon and even if they do not, we don't have the best ratio of HG to imported players. its unfortunate but English players are over priced. i'm envious of Man citys business to date this window. although they are paying much more than they ideally should, that once again unfortunately, is the current state of the English transfer market. out of all the England team Stones is the player who I feel will benefit Chelsea the most, if not the ox who will never be an option to us.

on a side note, we must be the only 2 people in the world who rate liverpools sakho.

21 Jul 2015 13:11:46
34m is a hell of a lot of money! But as a long term investment, I think it could be worth it.
I think the clubs plan is to have as many HG players in the squad as possible wether it be through the academy players or the signings of top English talent from other clubs.
If you look at the academy then you will see that it is full of outstanding midfield and attacking players but it's not so strong in defence. There is not one stand-out player from that defence that I can see holding down s first-team place at chelsea for years to come.
If the club are willing to pay that kind of money than they must see Stones as a long term JT replacement so I think it will happen and in a couple of years when JT is gone we will have a new hero leading from the back in Stones!

21 Jul 2015 20:22:20
Sakho!! Jackson, you've gone down in my estimation!

21 Jul 2015 21:36:44
I agree with SuperFrank in general but would like to point out that we do have Christensen, who by all accounts is a fantastic prospect. Ideally he'd be loaned out and getting first team experience but I believe he needs to be at the club another 6months in order to qualify as both HG and club trained.

22 Jul 2015 08:51:47
Fuser, Christensen has already gone on loan to Monchengladbach.
And yes, Mrs Costa, I believe Sakho is a fine defender. He's strong, looks a bit clumsy but isn't really IMO and he defends well. He's also a mainstay in the French defense (or at least the 3rd cb option) and with them having ridiculous talent at cb that is a testament to his abilities. It's not that I necessarily want him, but he wouldn't be a bad buy as he must have leadership abilities as well with him captaining PSG when he was still very young. I really believe we can do better with that kind of money. To each his own I guess :-)

21 Jul 2015 08:35:43
If those who've seen ED002's reply to a post stating Chelsea have agreed 6 deals for incoming players are like me they'll be racking their brains as to who these players are.

I'm going to assume Falcao, Nathan and Kenedy are included in the six, so that leaves us with three more players. I'm going to go with - Stones, Pedro & Rahman. These deals will see Cuadrado and, obviously now, Luis leave. Witsel would be the other potential signing but I see him as less likely than the other three.

I reckon I've got about a 45% chance of being right!

{Ed001's Note - didn't he make it plain it was 6 more, not 6 including the ones there? And I would think you are looking in the wrong direction, as some will be bought for a loan surely? Not ones for Chelsea as such, but for a year or two in Vitesse or another feeder club.}

21 Jul 2015 09:26:45
Aranguiz will probably come in.

21 Jul 2015 10:45:04
Ahhh OK! Defo Pedro, Aranguiz and Rahman. maybe Stones and a couple of young players for loans. Boom! That's our summer dealings sorted. roll on the season!

21 Jul 2015 00:35:07
#jesuised002