Chelsea Banter Archive January 21 2020

 

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21 Jan 2020 23:22:00
Truly can't stand Kepa, what an awful keeper. He's cost us 3 points in the last two games, positioning was shocking for that 2nd goal and it was such a weak shot too. The defending for it was just as embarassing, letting Bellerin cut in with no pressure on him at all. I'd play Cumming at this point, i just don't want Kepa in this team. As for our attack, against ten men for us to look that poor going forward is abysmal and no striker that comes in will solve our problems.

We need creators more than strikers. Our most creative player is Reece James, that says it all really. And if/when united get Bruno, i have no doubts they'll overtake us in no time even with Rashford out.

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21 Jan 2020 23:32:31
Think you are really Harsh on him. Though that was a good shot whoch bellerin should have never been alowed to take.

Abraham was below par this game.

Anyway credit to arsenal they gave us good game even going 10 men down so early.

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21 Jan 2020 23:57:16
Just got home from the match tonight and I’m more angry about that performance that I have been about any game for a long, ’long time.

Not many positives but I thought Jorginho and Christensen both played well.

I’m not sure how anyone can blame Kepa but coming out of the ground tonight lots of fans were giving him stick. I sit in the shed upper and I can’t see how he was at fault for there goals.

The strange thing is Emerson was having a good game but for me he has to take part of the blame for both of their goals.

From our corner he was all over the place and half asleep on the edge of there box. Obviously Kante slipping was the major issue but these things happen.

There second goal he made Avery lazy/ tired clearance and then allowed along with Tammy the full back to cut inside. Very poor defending.

OK, that’s the players out of the way. My major problem tonight was our genero performance when they when down to ten men and for that I totally blame Lamps.

How and why we kept dropping deep and why we stopped pressing was crazy. Instead of pushing the full backs up the pitch we dropped to a rigid back four.

Also, why did we need Jorginho and Kante holding when they went down to ten men? Very poor coaching performance all round in my opinion.

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22 Jan 2020 00:04:21
Watched the goal back, he definitely should've done better. Positioning was poor as it has been all season, although as i said the defending was just as bad if not worse. Emerson allowing Bellerin to cut in so easily was horrible, and then the space and time given to him was even worse.

Also not to mention we could've kicked the ball out of play for Tammy and waste time but decided to play on. Team lacks a lot of maturity and leadership in those situations. Yes credit to Arsenal, despite the stats they deserved the point. If you struggle to score against 10 man Arsenal with Xhaka and Mustafi as their CB's you definitely don't deserve to win the game.

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22 Jan 2020 00:19:41
Agreed, its extremely harsh to blame the goal on Kepa. we should have put the ball out of play way before the goal. we've conceded way to many goals in the last 15 minutes and that's down to the whole team.

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22 Jan 2020 01:54:47
Dear oh dear Kepa will be one of the best in the future and to me did nothing wrong tonight, I think everyone is trying to find someone to blame am not being funny lamps isn’t up to it as much as I love him abit like ole at united. We have championship strikers at best and no creativity in midfield are they not signing anyone as they don't want to give frank the money, I don’t know but we’re going to struggle as we’re getting easier to figure out.

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22 Jan 2020 07:09:57
Lamps for me, deserves criticism for a lot of last nights performance Nib66 but I guess he is learning on the job, like some of the players.

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22 Jan 2020 10:18:39
I agree Tom any other manager though things would be different just think where going backwards.

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21 Jan 2020 23:20:01
I'll tell you what even though people slate Azpi as captain but how many times does he score captains goals for us to get us points? Not the best attacking full back or good on the eye but my god he deserves credit for goals. He's not JT, Frank or Didier but he's underrated as captain.

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22 Jan 2020 03:34:18
Has scored 2 league goals, 1-1 game and 2-2 game, huge.

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21 Jan 2020 23:16:05
Said it before I'll say it again. Kante has no impact in a 3 man midfield he needs to be the ball winner in a two. He needs dropping.

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22 Jan 2020 00:11:43
I was surprised yet again that Barkley didn’t start.

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21 Jan 2020 22:23:20
Also thought Abraham was shocking tonight, he's just missing too many simple enough chances. He had a header straight at the keeper at 1-0, had he scored that it would've made it 2-0 and basically have killed the game off.

I don't like slating our players but we need a striker who can just score pure and simple. Our strikers are woeful!

Let's not even mention that Batshuayi miss towards the end!

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21 Jan 2020 22:34:21
Bobby you have hit the nail on the head.

I've been saying for awhile that Abraham's conversion rate is awful. He misses 3 or 4 sitters before he scores a goal. That was the same story last year at Villa.

In the space of 1 week he has missed sitters against Newcastle and Arsenal. He missed two headers today.

As for Batshuayi he missed but that grin on his face afterwards killed me.

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21 Jan 2020 22:37:29
Abraham's needed dropping for a while now but it's pointless when the backup striker's worse and can't even score a 3 yard tap in and smiles about it. A better striker will help but not as much as people think, we have no creativity. All we do is cross because that's all we're capable of doing with these players.

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21 Jan 2020 22:44:36
LB90 you have just said what I posted earlier. That grin on Batshuayi's face after the miss made me think he had committed a foul or was offside. But when I looked at the reply I couldn't believe it.

I couldn't agree more with your post.

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21 Jan 2020 22:53:59
CFCShak, exactly!

If we could just have a striker who would score nine times out of ten it wouldn't fix all of our problems, but it would go a hell of a long way to making a start of fixing them.

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21 Jan 2020 22:55:07
Look it's all relative, but I thought we did create far more clear cut chances than against Newcastle, and so we should with 11 against 10. At one stage the stat was 11 shots to 0 in our favour. So our conversion rate worryingly poor, but so tonight was our general game management/ composure at key moments. Not sure you can fault Kepa for the goals though ta risk of my sanity may look at them again!

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21 Jan 2020 22:57:51
CFCShak yep to say i was angry about that is a huge understatement. That miss helped cost us the win, if you're 3 or 4 up then fine but in a London derby when we're only 1 goal up and you're supposed to be fighting for the starting ST position to do that is embarrassing. He's a character but he's another player i'm looking forward to seeing the back off.

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21 Jan 2020 23:00:49
100% agree Bobby. For me Abraham hasn't shown me enough and I am not convinced he can lead our attack beyond this season. As Lampard said after the Newcastle game there isn't much more they can do on training pitch and the players lack killer instinct.

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21 Jan 2020 23:08:57
LB90 that grin will live with me forever or until when he leaves Chelsea.

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21 Jan 2020 22:22:45
I'll keep it sweet and simple today.

Once again another poor performance. Vs 10 men of Arsenal you would expect barrage of attacks, however as per norm useless possession based football. Frustrated ain't the word today.

It's been a while since I've seen Kepa make saves. Oppositions need only 1 or 2 chances and they score passed him. Useless.

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{Ed047's Note - two shots two goals mate

21 Jan 2020 22:26:26
Draw that feels like defeat. We need to put the money where the mouth is and buy some quality. If there is even a hint of Sancho or Werner or even Cavani available, get the deal done.

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21 Jan 2020 22:34:23
100 percent but wel bluff around with money an end up buyin redmond or someone knowing how wev gone the last 4 or 5 seasons transfer wise.

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21 Jan 2020 22:34:54
Hard as it is though, we are streets ahead of Arsenal. They really are in a mess. No chance of getting top 4. We have a chance. They are terrible. The capital is still blue, only one london winner of the champions league so less of the trolling.

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{Ed047's Note - streets ahead, you call that streets ahead 🤦‍♂️🤣🤣

21 Jan 2020 22:38:48
Ed047 thanks for the stat. I kind of gathered it would be something woeful as it usually is the case with him.

Leno today made a few saves today and you think when would Kepa start doing that for us? I think Kepa has been given a fair chance to shine with Chelsea and his only gone and done the complete opposite. At this rate we are better off asking Cech to put on his gloves one more time.

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{Ed047's Note - haha, it was just as I read your post that the commentator said it Shak.

I’m not convinced by Kepa either, came with a great rep but is struggling, but I do remember a lad called De Gea was the same so you never know but he doesn’t look great right now.

21 Jan 2020 22:50:12
The problem is how long do Chelsea wait for him to turn the corner and start performing for us? His almost had 2 years at the club and he hasn't looked solid at all.

This season hasn't been good on his part and as fans you can't help but feel the pressure.

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21 Jan 2020 23:23:26
Well come over to the side that knows about Kepa Shak. I’m sure Tom will be coming along soon.

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22 Jan 2020 00:01:59
I’ve never left. He wasn’t the problem tonight. Lamps was!

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22 Jan 2020 01:59:20
Know you just look for the easiest to blame or get on the bandwagon same with Jorghino last month it was all his fault your not getting the problem in the bigger picture pal.

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21 Jan 2020 22:20:54
Either Jorghino or Kante in midfield?

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21 Jan 2020 22:25:44
Kante all day, we need to adjust his position slightly. He's just too high at the moment.

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21 Jan 2020 22:17:39
I'm sorry but that performance was absolutely pathetic, attack was toothless, defense was abysmal and that was with Arsenal playing with 10 men for 60 plus minutes.

Then when Abraham (who I thought was woeful tonight) was limping around at 2-1, why didn't we just boot the ball off the pitch and reset. Instead we tried playing on and Arsenal scored from it.

I don't mean to sound so negative but that performance was truly pathetic. Something has seriously got to change, as we're getting worse every week right now.

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21 Jan 2020 22:22:14
Agree Bobby amateurish at best.

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21 Jan 2020 22:23:13
Shambles. Team selection wrong and youngsters nowhere near ready. Table position flattering only because other teams not good either. Don't get Christensen for Zouma either.

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21 Jan 2020 22:23:50
Disgusting. Getting fed up of witnessing this every week now. We are getting worse every week.

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21 Jan 2020 23:11:38
You could all stop watching!

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21 Jan 2020 22:16:51
We are officially obysmal! Willian needs to be dropped immediately and we need to go a 4-2-3-1 or get a proper striker and go an old school 4-4-2 with CHO and Reece James whipping in balls from the right. As for the left we desperately needs Pulisic back ASAP. I'm aftrid Frank is beginning to repeat Sarri last season with a good start until we get found out and don't have a plan b. If I Frank I would be extremely concerned. He should do a Mourinho for a game or 2 just to get some clean sheets and nick a couple of 1-0 wins. He really needs to look at himself and go back to the drawing board.

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21 Jan 2020 22:25:45
I couldn't agree more. Lampard has had 12 games to address the issues, however we still remain woeful.

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21 Jan 2020 22:14:58
another horror of a result in my opinion and another frustrating night its becoming normal now too see such vunrebility in a chelsea side and realise unless where at least 2 up were probably not going to see a game out and unless we sign goal scorers were never going to be winning games 3 or 4 nil. i no this is a transitional season but it seems to be mistakes constantly and soft goals from poor defending kante obviously u can't fault him but what u can fualt is why we had our whole team up in the box for a corner that's school boy stuff at its best . can u question the players this season or lack of management experience thoughts? why i say question management is because we seem to make the same mistakes over and over again game after game and unless lampard knows the players at his disposal aren't good enough and he just wants to see out the summer an clear out who isn't up to scratch an buy better than wat he has but i doubt that is the case. ud like to think there working a lot of the defensive phase and how to break teams down an score in the othe end of the pitch but its like banging the same drum every week now isn't it. im starting to strangely look forward to the end of the season the way our form is gone.

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21 Jan 2020 22:12:27
Sorry but have to say we are shocking at min.

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21 Jan 2020 22:15:32
Absolutely woeful! Worst performance I've seen in a long time. Lampard got taught a lesson by Arteta tonight. We need something different in attack, we don't look like scoring anymore.

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21 Jan 2020 22:09:15
All too predictable.

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21 Jan 2020 21:54:39
Our attacking is truly abysmal.

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21 Jan 2020 22:09:32
So is our defending
Concede 2 to a truly awful arsenal at home is embarrassing.

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{Ed047's Note - mate you are pretty woeful yourself, did nowt against 10 men, poor as and where was the mighty Jorginho🤷‍♂️

21 Jan 2020 22:11:59
As abysmal as our defending dominated the first half without killing off the game always vulnerable when teams go at us getting done on the break from a corner then taking the lead and not seeing the game out frustrated isn’t the word.

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21 Jan 2020 22:28:59
Ed 47 we are 10 ahead me ol mate suggest your awfulness is worse than ours by a very small margin lol
But truth be told we are rubbish all over the pitch at the min don't buy this arteta stuff either how many matches has he won and we make anyone look good at minute.

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{Ed047's Note - I’m not pretending we’re great mate but the team have a different mindset under Arteta.

It’s way to early to say whether he’ll be a hit or a miss but can’t see you guys winning anything for a long time mate, which is not what Chelsea are used too.

21 Jan 2020 22:36:44
Between me and you ed47 lamps isn't up to it by a long chalk imo.

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{Ed047's Note - my thoughts too mate if I’m honest.

21 Jan 2020 22:43:59
It was obvious tonight 4 2 3 1
Was the way to go we haven't the defence or attack to play 3 in midfield
Plus as ed002 said barkley is playing up but he looks our best player
And why is christensen the flavour of month all of a suddenrudiger going on left were zouma and tomori have played all season weird
Kante out of position
Jorginho isn't a middle of midfield player to slow
Mountut of depth tammy to.

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21 Jan 2020 23:22:18
Thanks Ed 47 listening to my rasnts lol our next few games are really tough could make or break Frank's short career.

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{Ed047's Note - any time Gola, we all get frustrated mate

21 Jan 2020 21:37:42
And that's what happens when you don't kill a game with an extra man! Very unlucky kante, but why was everyone so high up. Jesus Christ were one up and thrown everyone forward. Amateur hour.

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21 Jan 2020 21:42:01
Kante just went full Stevie Gerrard then. it was coming though you could feel it.

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21 Jan 2020 21:47:40
We require a forward who
Scores goals that’s where we are struggling don’t understand why we’re not breaking the bank Tammy isn’t going to do it for us he isn’t lethal enough.

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21 Jan 2020 22:10:42
You can just blame Tammy Nib, our wingers and midfielders offer absolutely nothing going forward.

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21 Jan 2020 22:11:24
Agree with Matt. 1-0 up against 10 men and they get a goal straight from our corner!

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21 Jan 2020 22:18:19
Nib66 I’m sure if the right player was available now the club would go after them but no point buying for the sake of it i
Says a lot when Jorginho is the second top goalscorer we need more goals from midfield and wingers.

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21 Jan 2020 23:15:06
Our wingers are not good enough either. CHO our best player but still can’t get a consistent scorer out of CHO, Puli or Willian.

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It's impossible to compare different Football Eras

21 Jan 2020 16:36:03
{Ed's Note - Har_red92 has posted a new article entitled, It's impossible to compare different Football Eras

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21 Jan 2020 15:37:19
If we do look towards a new Goalkeeper next season or someone to challenge Kepa who would people go for? I can't see the club spending 100m on Oblak after the Kepa deal and price hasn't turned out very well so I think they'll go for a cheaper option. Me personally I would go for a keeper in his 30's experienced and vocal who will command a back line.

I would go for Kasper Schmeichel. I think he's a very underrated keeper and one of the next best keepers in the league after Alisson and Ederson. He's much better than Kepa (Gotta be careful saying that though certain posters will cry on here) . Schmeichel has much better hands and has stronger wrists to block shots. He's not a weak keeper like Kepa and I think with his age and experience it would help our young team massively.

What's you're thoughts on Schmeichel?

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21 Jan 2020 16:21:11
Don’t see what everyone’s problem is with Kepa few little errors everyone on him he will turn out to be one of the best.

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21 Jan 2020 16:21:55
I do rate Schmeichel, I wouldn’t mind signing him as long as he didn't cost a fortune.

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21 Jan 2020 18:22:53
We should have kept Bulka. Nick Pope or Aaron Ramsdale for me. I just don't think that Kepa is good enough or will ever be good enough.

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21 Jan 2020 19:52:22
Agree Darren wood we're all entitled to opinions you don’t have to agree with the long standing posters on this site like they think you have to.

I’d love Oblak but the club won’t spend that big on a keeper again after the Kepa fee and I don’t think we’ll get much money back from Kepa after his performances lol.

I’d definitely try for Schmeichel, ’ore experienced players is what we’re in need of.

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21 Jan 2020 21:18:22
We will not sell Kepa unless he wants to leave.

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21 Jan 2020 23:23:42
Nick pope for mr.

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21 Jan 2020 11:42:38
Lyon signing a striker has really got rumours back that there a chance for dembele, can't see it personally I'm pretty sure Lyon would want a bidding war in the summer rather than weaken there team mid season,

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21 Jan 2020 14:19:33
They might get a bidding war between us an Man u in the next few weeks!

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21 Jan 2020 10:30:52
Dave scored from a corner in the champions league this season.

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21 Jan 2020 07:39:02
{Ed's Note - Ed001 has posted a new article entitled, Review Of The Day 21st January 2020

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21 Jan 2020 05:54:08
The biggest thing I think this team lacks is attitude. I can't tell you how much I miss watching Diego literally fighting the opposition for every inch. Our best teams always had a mentality that we might not win but if you beat us you damn well we're going to earn it. It pains me to say this but I feel like I'm watching some of wenger's later teams when watching this group play. This nastiness isn't an easy thing to cultivate and I hate identifying an issue without proposing a solution. That said the present mindset is a far greater issue than Jorginho, Kepa, tactics, or whatever else has been identified.

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21 Jan 2020 08:05:42
Emma Hayes recent comment (sure it’s not original) “Finishing second is finishing last”. I like to see that attitude in every aspect of play.

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21 Jan 2020 10:14:36
Tk i am missing that too, also how poor are we from Corners? I can't even remember last time we scored from one.

Corners used to be one of our strong points but somehow it died down under Sarri and Lampard.

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21 Jan 2020 10:57:44
As said after Newcastle game we were and are generally dreadful from most set pieces if particularly poor at attacking (and defending) corners. Mindset also important here of course not least in extent of desire to be first to the ball by main strikers/ CBs. Didier, Diego and John T. exemplary here, and Gary Cahill also impressive.

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