Chelsea Banter Archive January 20 2013

20 Jan 2013 21:25:12
some good news about gael kakuta, last few games he's really hitting his form, fingers crossed.

Why is kakuta a striker now

20 Jan 2013 21:11:20
ELI back on Jan 3rd you said you were happy for Sturridge....you must be beside yourself now after three in three - how's Fernando doing by the way

Puzzled

Yeah great goals tho, how's the league going ?

How many points are you behind us muzzled

20 Jan 2013 20:25:11
Rafa had to start with Torres today I. Order to start with Ba in the cup. Give Rafa the job now rather then another half season of uncertainty. Why would a player sign for Chelsea without knowing who will be manager next season. It is so destabilising.
We will only attract players who come for the big wages. Zero team spirit. Most don't care who is manager as they only came for financial gain.

I wouldn't be against rafa staying, but I think he's heading back to real in the summer. Hopefully we can have their manager.

Rafa is NOT wanted here.

20 Jan 2013 19:48:24
I feel our real problem is depth when you look at the bench to change a game we don't have a lot, and Ba should play every game for us we need a good 4 new players and about 8 come through the ranks give or take with players leaving in the summer.
One Bomb Tom

Our squad will be better next year with lukaku, courtois, chalobah, piazon, de bruyne, Kalas and mceachran returning, plus some new additions.

Jordan

Agreed it is good, but I personally would like more british players in squad!
One Bomb Tom

Like sturridge

Yes I was a sturridge fan, but he wasn't the player people hoped he would be, I would like to think the players coming through will be given a fair crack on the whip next season
One Bomb Tom

20 Jan 2013 19:38:31
Does anyone think David moyes would be a great appointment low/no budget at Everton over achieving and great man management ... About time his given a big challenge

Think of mark Hughes for example. Had low budget at Blackburn did reasonably well, fast forward to 2012 with qpr buys too many 'good' players. Fails. Azza

Ask Ed on Moyes and his coaching approach, apparently he over trains his players especially the youth, just look at Jack Rodwell and Ross Barkley they have a history of injuries and there very young. I don't know if top players would be pulled towards playing for David Moyes compared to a Mourinho, Guardiola or Klopp.

PB

20 Jan 2013 17:11:57
I would have to say Lampard is not good enough to be a regular starter, Chelsea fans have to realise if we don't let him go we will never develop any youngsters in that posistion or play quick football! Lampard will always be a legend but now is time to say goodbye. He's not a holding mid, and I think he will cost us games as he's going for his record.

Sheva 016

Like he lost us games v stoke and everton away. I agree he's lost his legs a bit, but there's still quality there. If he's willing to accept rolling one year contracts with a lot less of a wage then I think the younger players would also benefit from having him, terry and cole around the training ground.

NWBLUE

I would be happy to have him on the bench and come on as a game changer but he sulks like he did with AVB. So I would have to let him go as that is not a good example for the youngsters or team morale.

Sheva 016

Shevardnadze 016 talking rubbish, lampard not a good expat me to youngsters your having a laugh! Your a prime example of someone who doesn't understand football I'm afraid. No doubt you believe Torres needs more time?!
Ww

I don't believe he should be a starter, I haven't sedn frank give the ball away so much today & southampton. against big teams we would be punished. ramires was the star today. I also don't think torres needs more time he should have packed his bags 12 months ago. BLUEBOY1

Fact is, we weren't able to get a new striker in the summer, so we had to stick with Torres. If we had sold Torres we'd only have been left with Sturridge. And whilst not the greatest, he has scored 14 goals.

He was one of our best players today!! Original poster is talking crap!

Chelsea Nick

21 Jan 2013 07:58:13
lampard was awful today..he gaved away ball 5 times in the first 15 mts...
SKy is alos having a laugh...how is ramirez MOTM...
Ed..lets be honest..what is he doing in CDM?
he is not good enough...
Wnger did one stuppidity...pushing Wilshere up above his position and adding two bunches in the midfield in first half..and we got away..
When wishere cam down to Deep role..ramirez and lampard were in his pocket..

We need Someone in the middle..Rafa like..mascherano, alonso so much that his game plan is won in the midfield...

we don't have such...

Now ever fan would have realised why Oscar doesn't start and Mosese does...

Ramires whilst not the best tackler manage to nick the ball from Arsenal several times and was instrumental in both goals. Whether it was a foul or he dived, regardless of your opinion on that, he is the reason we won.

20 Jan 2013 15:59:47
2nd rate football in the 2nd half, so frustrating to see us play some fantastic attacking football for the 1st half and then come out 2nd and play hoof and hope rubbish like we did today. Lampard and Mata were the main culprits, they were so bad at times. don't want to have a dig at Torres, he didn't do too bad to say he hardly got any service throughout but the small criticism is that he gave the ball away too easy for Arsenals goal, it clearly wasnt a foul and a silly attempt for him to go down for it. Over-all a good win today, 6 points off the Gunners and stopped a bad run at home. Now to turn the Swansea game around on Wednesday. Scott M.

Though Torres was good but like you say loses possession to often. V Swansea I think Torres and Ba start really go for it. What you reckon,
Matt

Id like to see us play 2 strikers more often, I think both Ba and Torres can cause problems and offers more options in creativity from midfield. Our defense did a good job today, need to keep their wits about them against Swansea. Scott M.

Can I ask matt what you thought torres did well. all I saw was him give away possession with poor passes and poor control

His Movement trying hard worked hard linked play lovely with mata Oscar hazard, running at defenders
I thought he was good; I would of played BA or taken Torres of sooner but I couldn't slate Torres today,
Matt

Have to agree with Matt. He played fairly well in the first half when the trio were on fire. Went missing in the second half when Arsenal pressed us more and the trio were marked out of the game. Yes he didn't hold the ball up for us, but that's never been a part of his game. Ba should of come on at 60mins or so.

20 Jan 2013 15:41:40
idk about ye lot but I think torres should be tried on the right wing and ba up front torres sort of impressed me today IMO

Torres did play well despite not scoring.

What? Torres played well? Where? On playstation?

JG

Torres was awful today. Won a free kick and sliced a great chance well over the bar. Better than usuall!

His link up play with the trio created opportunities for others.

If we had lost we would have different views about him playing 'OK', we looked better as soon as ba came on. when do us chelsea fans ever settle for anything ok? BLUEBOY1

People are blinded by hate

If we had started with Ba, the way we would of played would of been different. There would of been more long balls/crosses, which means the scoreline could have been worse.

20 Jan 2013 15:10:53
If I was Torres I would be asking rafa why none of our midfields can slide passes through and split defences for me like they just did for Ba.

I have to say I agree. I watched a couple of times the opportunity of Mata or Hazard threading a ball through to Torres but it did't happen. But maybe they don't think Torres can capitalise. Ba was a real threat in the little time he played. On a positive note I thouht Torres is regaining his speed. Proitos.

Agree. Perhaps they believe he's lost his pace and can't get on to the end of them. I was impressed with his pace at times today, other times Vermealan definitely had him beat but his dummy in the second half to buy him an extra yard was great. Would of liked him to cut infront instead of trying to cross. His link up in the first half with the trio created chances for others.

He Is not regaining his speed. He was up against mertsacker, the slowest footballer in the world!

Jordan

The amount of balls the trio played for him but his lack of pace made vermalen tidy them up with ease. stop trying to make excuses for torres.

20 Jan 2013 14:39:18
Arsenal going to attack much harder in the second half. We need a striker on who is going to hold the ball up. We need Demba Ba on sooner rather than later.

Surewould

20 Jan 2013 13:34:03
does anyone know where I can livestream the game today?

First row sports

20 Jan 2013 13:20:30
People banging on about lamps getting a new contract, yes he was brilliant v stoke. But terrible v Southampton. Let's see how he performs today. BLUEBOY1

Faultless so far.

Passing wasn't good though!

20 Jan 2013 13:12:19
This is why I don't want rafa at this club next year. Starting torres who is awfull. Demba ba bullied arsenal three weeks ago and gets rested. I hope i'm wrong and torres gets the winner but to be honest I wouldn't be bothered if he was moved on now instead of the summer. regarding rafa I don't agree with his rotation policy, if the team is doing well, why change it.

NWBLUE

90% of fans would want Torres gone now instead of the summer, so your idea is hardly noteworthy. Whilst Torres hasn't been at his best so far today, his link up play has created opportunities for other players. And if Demba Ba were playing then we would be playing slightly differently and the scoreline might not be the same.

Rafa does like Torres but I think Abramovich insisting he plays doesn't help!

Playing with Torres worked as is evident in the first half. Second half Arsenal picked up their game and stopped the trio playing, which affected Torres' game. When Demba Ba came on we changed the play we played with constant long balls up to him which worked to relief pressure. Our midfield was marked out the game 2nd half.

20 Jan 2013 13:09:17
Starting 11. Why not Ba? Proitos

Swansea midweek

20 Jan 2013 12:36:08
Hope we play

Azpilcueta ivanovic Cahill cole

Luiz. Oscar
Hazard. Mata

Torres. Ba

442

But I think Ramires will play pivot and Oscar further forward

I hope we play a keeper too, otherwise we might let in a few...
Danny

It's obvious cech will start didn't think you needed me to say.. Will no next time..

Is Luiz injured and Torres has a lot to prove starting today Ba on bench

20 Jan 2013 08:56:59
Much has been said about who will be manager come next season.
Some of the pundits suggest that no one will want to manage us but the reality is of course they will.
I for one am glad that Pep has chose Bayern my view is that although he had great success at Barcelona the structure, the players, the ethos were ready for him to step into and the only real set back he had (us knocking them out of last seasons CL) proved too much for him and I really am not sure he would have been quite the manager in the EPL that he was in Spain.
So who next? Well heres a thought Gus Hiddink, who I personally believe is up there as one of the best of his generation, ends his contract in Russia at the end of the season. As things stand he has said he won't sign another contract in Russia and has said he plans to retire.
Gus lead us and we loved him but more important he has a good relationship with RA.
So I personally think we will see one of our previous managers return be it Hiddink or Jose.


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