01 Mar 2013 22:01:00
whos jacket the packet,?loving your posts my friend, a certain brucie being taken to task, who thinks he is the only person who is correct on this site, good banter keep it up.
Chelsea Banter Archive March 01 2013
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01 Mar 2013 19:51:40
Ed, if Rafa wanted mascherano in january and he was refused. Could this suggest that we have an eye on someone in the summer (felliani) that he didn't want mascherano filling the spot?
And if he did want to bring back some players out on loan. Why wasn't he allowed.
Cheers, Russ {Ed002's Note - I doubt it.}
01 Mar 2013 14:43:42
Considering that we have a fantastic trio of attacking midfielders in Hazard, Mata and Oscar and neither of them doing bad/not living up to expectations/looking to leave in the near future, why on earth are we trying to bring in Isco?
As well as the aforementioned we also happen to have players such as Kevin de Bruyne, Piazon, Marin, Moses and Kakuta playing in those positions. With one or two likely gone it is still a crowded competition for places and all of the aged under 24.
Buying every undersized, skinny attacking midfielder possibly available won't solve our problems where they are badly obvious and continually exposed. This I don't get really.
Beforehand I never worried over those things. Not my money, happy over every player joining Chelsea, but with FFP in effect, should we not start looking for needs?
JG
01 Mar 2013 16:40:01
Some of which will be gone if we don't make the Top 4.
In my opinion he would be a very good squad player/potential future starter.
Hazard and Mata have both shown visible signs of fatigue and tiredness this season (i don't understand why as their professional athletes who get paid to be basically be in shape as their natural talent is a given). Oscar is an exceptional talent but is set to be moved to the pivot over the next season or 2 from what I understand.
Marin is a squad player who hasn't shown his past quality at Werder Bremen and Moses is a squad player.
Kakuta from what I've read will be assessed and likely sold, Piazon will likely go on loan next year and KDB is seen as Lampards replacement as I understand.
That leaves us with Hazard, Mata, Moses and Marin. Isco in my opinion is better than Marin and has the potential to be as good as Mata, we are a top team who will play a lot of games next season. Isco is young, will be an affordable price for his ability, age and versatility and will have a high resale value.
Ive watched a lot of Malaga this year, he has been inconsistent but he has a bunch of talent and potential and would really add to the squad. The only problem I see is he isn't an out and out winger which is what we probably lack depth wise but his versatility is something the club seem to be searching for.
I can't take your post ( or any other ) seriously as u use the phrase "double pivot". Drives me crazy.
It's central midfield where I come from.
Cfcmatt.
PB, what's the affordable price you're referring to? His release clause is set at 30 million pounds. What is the transfer fee you are thinking is a reasonable/affordable for a "squad player"?
I think an out and out winger of his quality would be much better business. Problem is there aren't many wingers.
Tk
JG this is your best post in a long time, I agree with you that we don't need another small midfielder, no matter how talented, who doesn't bring anything different to the team such as being a true winger with electric pace. Instead we should look for a future lb, Bertrand looks worse every match, or striker or young cb with pace who is comfortable with the ball at his feet because Ivan clearly is not and the style we play we need more pace at cb.
Bluelab
JG unless were talking Messi or Ronaldo then most players in Europe are affordable, his release clause may be 30m euros but that doesn't mean that's what they will take as a minimum. They need cash and unless they get us in a bidding war with Real Madrid I would think he would cost what Mata did around £21m and at that price I think he is worth the money in my opinion. I've watched lots of Malaga sky and he is a special talent.
I have watched a lot of Dortmund and I can tell you that Goetze is one of a kind type of player. And could be available at some 30 mil. Should we go for him? Also tiny, technically brilliant, pacy. Point is there are a great bunch of talent in that area and we don't have a striker, our central midfield is crap and our defence need immideate upgrade.
My targets would be: Hummels, Vidal, Cavani. And sadly they are all expensive and a lot of clubs want them.
JG
I love Goetze, he is a better player than Isco and has more potential but Dortmund have a good financial situation, they have one of the best home attendances in europe and they have bee a very successful club. From what I've read he would only leave for Barcelona so that deal looks unlikely.
I agree with you we need a world class 30 goals a season all comps striker whether that be Falcao or Cavani, then like you said we must buy a CDM/CM who will bring some grit and toughness to the middle of the mark, who has a simple but effective passing game, who is defensively minded and a big strong athlete, unfortunately not many of them around : (
Who cares what people call a position. We all under stand. BLUEBOy1
Then you and I can agree we should be wise and concentrate on our immediate needs rather than add another promising skillful midget.
JG
01 Mar 2013 10:34:26
Am I the only one who isn't conviced Jose Mourinho is the answer to the problem at Chelsea, I think we need stability and a manager for the long haul.
Understood people will speculate that Jose would stay for longer but his track record proves different, and I still think he is a trophy hunter nothing more.
Thoughts?
One Bomb Tom
I'm not sure why people seem to be so worried about the long term. Apart from unusual cases like Ferguson and Wenger, the worlds top clubs don't regularly have a manager in place for a decade at a time, so why would it be bad if Mourinho stayed for 3-4 years? As long as he rebuilds us, and leaves us with a strong league winning team, then I'd be quite happy with 3 years.
I agree Tom but then you have to look at who else is available this summer, Klopp looks like he wants to stay at Dortmund, Laudrup not to many people on here fancy, that probably leaves Moyes and Mourinho. I don't think Moyes would attract the top players to want to play at Chelsea so Mourinho only looks the viable option atm
Understood PB1989, and Kentonio that is a good point, I just want a manager who can install the winning mentality back in us and make the Bridge the fortress it once was, Teams knew the best they could get would be 1 point if they were lucky!
Mourinho is the only one that Can change things and bring back that belief and he will be there for the long hall he's been everywhere and fulfilled what he wants and hopefully he will come back and make us what we once were.
Moyes or Mourinho PB? That's our choices probably? I guarentee if it's not Mourinho it won't be Moyes. 100%. If I'm wrong I expect you to remind me mate, because I couldn't be surer of anything.
Tom, Mourinho is the one who made the Bridge a fortress! If anyone van make it so again its him.
There the only managers I know who would be available in the summer, I have very little knowledge of manager availability within Europe though. I want Klopp personally if not then Mourinho then Laudrup.
01 Mar 2013 09:45:57
Can some one please tell me how Ake did? I couldn't watch the game cus I have flu.
He did pretty well, he's still got a long way to go of course, but he did a good job on the night.
01 Mar 2013 08:43:00
Just a comment on the post from PB1989 last night.
He is an obvious Chelsea fan but he can see things without blue-tinted glasses. A very good post and not made and poorer by support from me
Puzzled
01 Mar 2013 08:11:43
4 points off Manchester United at the time of appointment. 19 points off Manchester United at this very stage. What other data does anyone need to realize how big of a fail this appointment has been?
Carefree
01 Mar 2013 00:58:42
There is method to his madness.
Rafa went on his rant WANTING to get the sack. to get out of an impossible situation. Whatever illusions he was under when he accepted the post, he has come to the realization that he will never win over the CFC fans nor will he seriously be considered to land the job on a permanent basis once the season ends. So, what his incentive to prolong the inevitable?
Get the sack and he gets paid in full while extricating himself from a deteriorating situation a few months early.
He may have sincerely entered the job with rose tinted glasses and perhaps truly believing he could deliver the goods and pave the way to become the next manager on a long-term basis. Things haven't turned out obviously and he probably underestimated the vitriol from the CFC fans--it's got to have an impact on his psyche no matter how thick-skinned he may claim to be.
So, why not get fired? Looks like he'll get his wish. does anyone really believe he will be around after West Brom. win or lose. Management is just buying time to find a replacement.