Chelsea Banter Archive July 01 2012

 

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01 Jul 2012 23:37:23
Any news on Frank Lampard's fitness, has he recovered?

THE NUTTER

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01 Jul 2012 23:36:10
ed this torres guy for spain looks a decent player, do chelsea have any interest in him? hope so anyway. so happy for him and mata, hazard and marin are now officially chelsea players and to top it off, i put money on torres as top scorer at 18/1. today has been a good day

Vincent

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I had money on Torres too but I've just found out that because 6 players all scored 3 goals each the stakes get divided by 6.
ie, if you put £30 on at 16-1 instead of getting £500 odd back you'll only get about £80. Gutted.
Kp.

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But Torres is the Golden boot winner.
roan

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Torres played less minutes than the others and is the golden boot winner, you need to get down to where you put the bet on and sort it out :) i got paid out at Coral no problem with him as Golden Boot Winner.

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Bookies will do anything they can to get out of paying you your well deserved money

curt

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The majority of online bookmakers have a set rule for this occasion called Dead Heat. Dead Heat rule is commonly used for horse racing and in the case of a  top goalscorer in Euro 2012 it means that your bet counts for half of your stake on  full odds. So, if you had £100 on a player at 10/1 and there is a dead hit between 2 top goalscorers in the Euro, then it is like you had £50 on 10/1, and that’s how the bookie is going to pay out your bet. In the case of more than 2 top goalscorers then the amount is divided equally. i.e. if its 3 of them on the first place you get 1/3 of your money on full odds if its 4 1/4 on full odds etc...

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The bet was for top scorer not golden boot winner. I did it online on bet365, apparently paddy power is the same. Wish I'd used coral now too.
Kp.

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Technically there was only one golden boot winner though because torres played less minutes than gomez

curt

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One bet is top goalscorer.. the other bet is golden boot, two different bets ...rayzor

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Ah good point rayzor depends what they bet in that case

thanks for pointing that out

curt

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Yeah i didnt get my money now either after looking at my account :( williamhill said they didnt offer anything on golden boot, only top scorer

Vincent

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Im afraid the fella claiming to have been paid out by coral is telling a porky,there bet was top goalscorer ,not golden boot ,sniff...sniff...whats that i smell!!!!
...rayzor

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Razor is right, I wrote a ticket out by hand saying Torres golden boot, 16/1 put a tenner on it, went in today to collect my winnings, they refused to pay out saying the bet was top goalscorer, even tho it had golden boot on the slip! C*nts!!

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Ill say what i said before

they will do anything to get out of paying you

curt

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No curt mate ,when you place a bet its up to you to check your betting slip,all the odds would have been under the heading top goalscorer when you got your price..as it happens i had £5 e/w at 100/1 dzagaeov.picked up £186...rayzor

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If ur slip says torres for golden boot then they have to pay up if they dont wana pay up then they shouldnt accept the bet

curt

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Curt read what i wrote..its your look out theres a sign in the shop to check your tickets the onus is on you,ring coral if you dont believe me,they havent the time to check every bet thats laid,..rayzor

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01 Jul 2012 23:22:29
is AVB going to be spurs manager ED? {Ed002's Note - Looks likely.}

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If he does take over do you think he may want to bid for Hulk? or is he out of price range for spurs? {Ed002's Note - I would suspect Moutinho might be a target. But expensive. I would rather doubt Hulk.}

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01 Jul 2012 21:58:16
so torres takes the golden boot and the 2 chelsea boys write spain into the record books (biggest margin win) which leads me to say open ur eyes del bosque and play them more often

mata done more in 8 minutes than milner and young done all tournament

glad to see torres smiling again and heres hoping we see him banging the goals in next year

carefree i dont think wether torres has a chelsea flag is top priority and in his defence chelsea werent exactly loyal to him last season (rarely played him and was refused a penalty kick in munich shootout) i know thats more di matteo's choice but you get the point of it

curt

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May be wrong , but i thought Torres chose not to take a pen

Jm10

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Wrong mate ,wrong game !!!

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Nah when mata offered him the penalty in the fa cup i think it was he didnt wana take it but watch the champions league final back and look at nando's face just before the penalties hes one step away from tears

curt

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01 Jul 2012 21:56:40
All season he got killed off everyone. He finished it with Fa Cup, Champs League, Eurpoean Championship and Golden Boot. Fernando Torres, take a bow son.

P.S. Happy for Juan aswell.

OsgoodIsKing

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I am a big fan of Torres, I hope now we have more creative players in that he will get the service he needs to play his game, from his brief cameos in the euros he is looking sharp and full of confidence, i hope for a big season from him.

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Mata brings the best out of torres expect good things from them 2 next year

curt

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01 Jul 2012 21:54:31
FT9! Golden Boot Winner just like i betted on at the beginning of the tournament :D 23-1 odds ;D It was easy money but have to say, what a pass by Xavi to set it up. On another note, i heard a rumour we were having a look at a unknown CM (Other than Modric apparently and also Fellaini), any truth to this Ed?
Lets look forward to next season, worth a punt on Torres again? ;)
Prediction for Community Shield
2-1 Chelsea, Hazard, Aguero and FT9
Prediction for Supercup
3-1, Mata, Torres, Falcao, Marin
Keep the Faith!
CFCFOREVER!

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01 Jul 2012 21:54:06
What a night! Chelsea boys Mata and Torres scoring in what was a tantalising performance. Torres is definitely back to his best in my eyes. 3 goals 1 assist = The golden boot.

Like I said when I first came to the site; 'Class is permanent form is temporary'.

Well done El Nino.

Good luck Ed(s) for the next 2 months...your gonna need it!

Wild

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01 Jul 2012 21:40:42
Fantastic to see Fernando looking sharp with his runs, a great finish and assist for Juan! All with Roman in the stands watching

There is some hope for next season!

COYB

Rich

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01 Jul 2012 21:37:13
Torres and Mata! Brilliant, and Torres to get the golden boot! Awesome!

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01 Jul 2012 22:20:38
Does the club have any relationship with the Ghanaian club Berekum Chelsea? Could be a good move

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01 Jul 2012 22:18:41
Euro 2012 'of the tournament':

Team - Spain

Player - Iniesta

Goal - Zlatan's (can't remember against who)

Shock - Italy knocking out Germany

Another Shock - Torres getting the golden boot

Stupidest moment - That Greece player getting sent off in the first game.

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Avoid the ref of that greece game like the plague

curt

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Zlatan goal against france
Carefree

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01 Jul 2012 22:06:31
FINALLY! Chelsea have joined the party! Torres wins the Golden Boot! If this doesn't give him a kick up the ass, nothing will.

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01 Jul 2012 22:03:59
Well pleased for our 2 Chelsea Boys tonight. Roll on 18th August...
Marksnes

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01 Jul 2012 21:32:57
Toorrreeeessss! Ferrrrnando Torressss! Oh sorry guys, just warming up for next season.

ELI

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01 Jul 2012 21:30:32
Torres!!!
Jono

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01 Jul 2012 18:49:13
wow again del bosque isnt starting torres what a tool

curt

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Yeah what a tool , only won 4.0......

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I think del bosque knows what he's doing curt.
2 la ligas , champs league , world cup and a euros winner.
There's only 1 tool around here and that's most defiantly you.
Cfcmatt.

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I would say Torres proved he should have started. Not necessarily that del bisque is a tool.

Tk

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Funny how when i was the first to mention they can still win without a striker everyone disagrees now i want them too play a striker u all disagree....

matt im not even goin to waste my time with you

curt

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01 Jul 2012 20:59:42
Team With Modric?

I personally am not to excited about the prospect of Modric, and i'm not really convinced we are after him, but if we are how would he fit in?

In front of a standard back four (if we sign Hulk).....

....Modric....Ramires...
Hulk....Mata.....Hazard
.........Torres............


Without Hulk....

...Mikel....Modric
Ramires..Mata..Hazard

Or
.....Mikel....Ramires..
Hazard...Modric...Hazard


For me none of these are totally convincing, Modric as a CM may leave a lot to be desired defensively if paired with Ramires, and forcing Mata to the right is, imo a waste of his talents. Playing Modric deep alongside Obi might be the best option but then Ramires is forced wide and again i think this is a waste, and i am still fairly convinced Hulk will sign.

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Have you cloned hazard ?? rami wasted on the wing

curt

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One of those Hazards is meant to be Mata...

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01 Jul 2012 20:32:35
If spain win tonight and torres doesnt come out with a chelsea scarf then he just aint chelsea if u look back at euro and world cup before both times he celebrated with liverpool scarf

Carefree

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Matey don't judge him on that!

Nando loves Chelsea and Chelsea loves Nando :)

You'll see that next season when he's banging in goals!

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I'm sorry carefree, but I didn't see one spain player with the scarf of thei club after the match.

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Nah i accept that no 1 else did and times before they did so fair enough
Carefree

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01 Jul 2012 16:37:46
so whos everyone cheering for tonight then ?

me personally is spain for the obvious reasons of mata and torres and italy dont have any chelsea players

ill be pissed off if mata doesnt get a run out tonight they cant claim its too much of an important game for him too play because hes a big player when they bring xavi off (which they will) mata should come on not fabregas

curt

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That idiot, Del Bosque's tactics will cost Spain dearly.How the hell someone plays Fabregas as a striker or a false no 9 ,when he has world class strikers to choose from.With the players at his disposal the way he is making the Spanish play in the Euro is pathetic.Mata would also do a way better job as a false no 9 than Fabregas,who does not have pace on his side.
roan

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He a has not got a game in 5 why would he get on in the final,.......?

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Italy for me, balotelli looks impressive and pirlo and cassano should run the game.

trueblue012 {Ed002's Note - I can see Spain rolling them over.}

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Cheering on Italy if nando doesn't start. BLUEBOY1

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Proves what you know trueblue012. 4.0
good shout ed!!!!

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Did xavi come off ?.....

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Spot on there ed

curt

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He didn't take xavi off.
Again you're wrong curt.
Cfcmatt.

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I figure roan and curt must be best of friends ,for obvious reasons !!

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Out of all that u point out that i was wrong about xavi coming off

you obviously havent been watching the euros considering xavi has normally come off late in games

so grow up matt and do something more constructive with you time other than trying to annoy people

curt

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01 Jul 2012 13:16:12
My wishlist for 2012/2013:

In:
Maicon or Pizcech(bad spelling sorry)
Hulk
Hazard
Marin
Cavani ( I want him so much i would swap him for torres)


Out:
Bosingwa
Essien
Kalou
Drogba :'(
Malouda
Turnbull (promote Blackman)
Paulo Ferreira
Kakuta
Benayoun(maybe, depending on replacements)


Loans:
Lukaku (Norwich or Southhampton, both have merits and drawbacks)

De Bruyne (Southampton)

P.S. Please don't get Victor Moses!

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Think u miss the point about turnbull is that hes homegrown

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And Blackman isn't?

IB.

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I agree

I'd probably prefer Azpilicueta or Pisczek though instead of Maicon.
I don't think we'll sell Essien though, he's part of the chelsea famiy and i hope he has an injury free season! will be like having a new signing if he does

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Turnbull might be homegrown but even he paid his own wages, he still isn't good enough to be Cechs backup.

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I'm pretty sure that Blackman is also homegrown....

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How old is blackman? if hes under 21 he doesnt count BLUEBOY1

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Why are hazard and marin on your wishlist ?? they have signed/agreed to join

curt

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Why let kakuta go?

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Curt - i just wanted a complete list

I wanted Hilario to be No.2 and lets face it turnbull will never be good enough for us so lets give sombody else a run out. Jamal Blackman?

Also, assuming Ramires drops back into cm, i can't see merelies staying because that would be 7cm's including Josh. Would prefer essien to leave buy hey ho!

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Ok fair enough thought you had not realised they are signing my mistake

curt

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