Chelsea Banter Archive September 19 2011

19 Sep 2011 21:28:11
In January I would snap up Barkley and perhaps loan him back to Everton but at least get his signature. We cannot afford to let Man Utd take another young player and turn him world class. We need to be doing this. I would also take a look at Junior Hoilett, lot of potential there and surely no worse than Kalou with room to improve around better players. Look how good Young has done at United. These two players have bags of potential plus the addition of a playmaker and a world class winger, then next summer get Subotic in and we'll soon see the almighty Chelsea back on top.
Keep The Faith!
Scotty.

So we should sign someone whos played a couple of ok games for everton, and someone who is 'no worse than kalou', really??

Well said Scotty, fair points all around. I'd like to suggest players who can fill the void.

Playmaker: Mezut Ozil; not happy with Mourinho's Policies and the way Real Madrid is going and would fit in perfectly with his ability, skill and work ethic. Would also only be around £27-30 million and is only 23/24 so still has at least 7/8 World-Class years left.

Mathieu Vabuena: Very good youngish Right-Winger, good pace and skill and produces wicked crosses, as well as being able to finish clinically. He is already interested in Premier League move and has metioned AVB admiration last year when linked with Porto.Only 26/27 and still very much able to improve. Would cost around £21-£26 million,but i think he would be worth it

As someone on here already said Subotic is tailor-made for Chelsea, but lets go one step further. This probably won't happen but £90 million pound raid for combined deal of Kanagwa, Hummels, Subotic and Goetze. Four World-Class players who still have a long career ahead of each and would be amazing as a young squad along with Lucas Piazon,Kevin De Bruyne, Wallace, Gael Etock, Thibaut Courtois, Patrick Van-Aanholt, Romelu Lukaku, Danny Sturridge, Josh McEachran and Islam Feruz.

I also think we should look for a young but good and Premier League proven Central Midfielder, someone who can defend, tackle strongly and chase loose balls, but can also get forward and break quickly, with a good level of finesse and quality. Now the way i see this, that could be either Rodwell or Wiltshire. I'd prefer the latter and with Arsenal in turmoil, he might think about a move but would probably cost a lot more due to our unfriendly rivalry.

Feel Free to comment other players who could help and why
CFCFOREVER!

To top responder, didn't Rooney only play a couple of ok games before a 30 million move. Everyone has start from somewhere don't they? Your probably one of those who think we should continually spend 100 million on 30 year old's aren't you? And to CFCFOREVER!, Didn't know Ozil wasn't happy with Madrid's policies, would be interesting to see what Ed has to say about that. No doubt a quality player. Valbuena is a player who is good in streaks but overall would prefer someone else.
Scotty.

To above responder:

Ozil isn't happy with Mourinho at the minute, according to my good Spanish sources (Same people who told me 1st of June we were going to beat Arsenal to Juan Mata's signature. As for other point on Valbuena, i can't really think of any others apart from Antonio Valencia, Nani and Eden Hazard.
CFCFOREVER!

To Scotty, so your assuming im a fan that has no probs wasting money when you want to spend 20 odd mil on a kid whos had a couple of ok games for everton, oh i see what youve done there, because he plays for everton and is young he must be another rooney haha, we have enough young midfield talent to nuture without spending big money on adding more. why not just let Josh and Piazon develop

19 Sep 2011 19:55:46
I think the Manchester United game showcased that on our day and with luck not playing such a big factor we can play and possibly beat the top teams in the Premier league and Europe which Manchester is. I think Torres looks a different player to last season and is going along way to convincing me he's not another Shevchenko, even though he missed a easy finish he is creating chances and being put in goal scoring positions which is the key situation now. I was so annoyed at the signing of Meireles but he is playing really well atm and a key player in our squad, his range of passing and consistency has really impressed me. The addition of Mata has obviously helped alot with his natural technical ability and vision.

The recent news that Neymar looks to be signing with Real Madrid hasn't surprised me and the fee of 55m euros is very inflated for such a young talent who in my opinion doesn't have a game suited to the PL.

I saw a member post about possible signings and tbh I really don't think we need that 30/40m marquee name signing to complete our squad long with the financial implications this has on our club. Don't get me wrong I would love us to secure Eden Hazard and Luka Modric but I don't think that is realistic atm.

From looking at our squad and the young talent up and coming such as Lucas Piazon, Josh McEachran, Ullias Davila, Islam Feruz, Gael Etock and so on i think we should concentrate on developing these players to make sure there talent turns out world class which they all have the potential for it to happen.

My signings for January or Next Summer would be as follows -

CB - Gary Cahill - Bolton - Value £12m (6 months left on his contract in January)

CM - Ross Barkley - Everton - Value £15m

LW - David "Junior" Hoilet - Blackburn - Value £12

When I look at CB in the Premier league the best have a British nationality or have the build and hard tackling physical style of a traditional CB. Gary Cahill is this to a tee plus he has some ball playing skills and atm he looks like he has an eye for goal like a young John Terry did in his earlier career when he was scoring 5/6 a season.

I personally believe alot of British players are overrated due to the fact there British, in this case i think Ross Barkley is an exception, he has a real solid all round technical game, good passing, good pace, good vision and can win tackles. He is a young up and coming player who has a very bright future and with the financial situation at Everton being shocking a good offer and they will sell.

We lack on the LW in my opinion, Mata I see as our CAM mid who will be given the ball in the final 3rd and create goals and open up defences with Meireles and Ramires playing behind him. This now opens up a position on the LW and I don't think I am the only person who doesn't believe in Malouda at this top level any more. David Hoilet is my realistic option and what he offers we need. I've watched a couple of his performances this season and tbh I've been very impressed. He possess great pace, very technical and skilful dribbling and an attack minded beat a defender approach which i think we lack slightly atm. He has 3 years of experience in this league now and is holding down a 1st team slot this season. He is young, at a mid to low table club and the chance of winning titles and champions league plus a good offer should be enough to get the player.

All 3 of these potential signings re-enforce us in area's that atm i feel we are lacking depth of quality. All 3 of these players play in hard working teams in the Premier league so have experience and all have come through there clubs academy's or a PL clubs academy so all qualify for home grown player status. These 3 purchases may not be the Modric and Hazard that i have been craving all summer but they make financial sense and i really feel that especially Barkley and Hoilet could turn out to be fantastic players along with a very reliable CB in Gary Cahill.

Any thoughts or comments are appreciated and welcomed.

PB

Haha someone else on the barkley bandwagon, hes only played a couple of games mate, and hoilett, i dont think so

Actually i watched him play for england under 17's with josh mceachran in the cm and both played exceptional and have followed his development throught the leg break last year. Do ya research before making stupid comments.

PB

Hoilet's quite a good player I'd definitely want to see him in the squad.

This season hes had one good shot and give away a peno, theres a long list of u-17 players that dont make it at top level, its way to early put a big money bid in for him, he wont get enough chances to develop properly, we need people that can slot straight in, and again 'quite a good player' is that really good enough for chelsea? malouda and kalou could be described as quite good players

19 Sep 2011 16:34:18
Gulf in class??, i diddnt see one, game on for the season i say we'll get them 3 points back at the bridge, hardest game of the season out the way, were in form and playing well with a nice run of winnable fixtures coming up to follow, the catch-up begins saturday when we stick 5 or 6 past swansea and Man U will draw at Stoke, Full faith in AVB and Torres after that man u get the points but it was a moral victory for us, UP THE CHELS


ZOLA

19 Sep 2011 14:29:07
Team against Fulham?

..........cech.........
Ferreira..Luiz...Alex...Bertrand
...........Oriol.........
......Josh.......Malouda
Anelka......Lukaku...Kalou

Not the best team, but it should be solid, it gives a start to a couple of youngsters, and gives a game to those who havnt had one (and a rest to those that have)
Im not sure if i expect as many changes as my team has, but at the very least i hope Lukaku, Josh and Oriol get a good run out.

For me cech has has to play. Without him brings a panic whenever a team is 30 yards from our goal. It would make no sense to play younger players that receive no confidence from the goalkeeper. Consequence is defence drops deep to protect him then the midfield drops deep to protect them. The space between midfield and attack becomes enormous. We should have made getting a proper no.2 a priority during the summer.

19 Sep 2011 10:59:59
Hi Lads

Watched the game, and as an Arsenal fan i would like to congratulate you on a great game of football. I feeled that you out played the Mancs, keep playing likre this and you could take the league. Also, torres looks like his old self only ganna get bettter, and oh yeah, only reason he missed that goal was to make Rooney feel better :)

19 Sep 2011 09:29:11
i actually think chelsea played pretty well against man utd. Finally we seem to be able to play the ball in the middle to torres. You can see that torres will get back to his old form. Cant expect to get any points playing man utd away anyway.. Boas is a fan of attacking football. Better to sometimes be unlucky and loose than to be afraid to loose and play booring. Chelsea will hit back stronger than ever!

18 Sep 2011 23:22:23
Hello ED's, Straight away sorry for my English as I am Lithuanian, So what i want to say and ask have you seen same things as me on todays game that Man Utd are just too lucky with decisions made from reffere (spelling) how they were able to give that penalty and didn't see offsides? I am really pissed off with those Red devils as they think they are the best but refferes makes them best this is my own opinion. OK i wrote here too much as I still feel terrible after today, but what can you say about Torres form give a rating from 10 as my one would be 9/10 for everything he done in second half even if he missed that shot

You talk about refereeing decisions when Cole should have been arrested for his tackle never mind get sent off. Another whinging blue who cannot accept defeat just like your players and club officials. Cole is a w*****r and so is AVB for defending him! It is disgusting that a manager excuses a disgraceful tackle like that by saying it was frustration born out of the officials decisions!! Lets hope that one of the Fulham players doesnt do that to one of your players or you will all be moaning like you normally do.

Bazza

Bazza you say all this but Rooney, Fletcher, them little s**ts (brazilian twins) are the worst for it and dont get me started on fergie!

Dan1CFC

Bazza,This is the Chelsea banter page , our friend from Lithuania is a blue and wants to talk with other blues

Rooney, Fletcher and the twins, when have they ever made a tackle like w*****s? Another know nothing numpty. Enjoy third. {Ed004's Note - And shall we not mention Side Show bob in all this? Ramires lounging into tackles?}

Keep congraulating yourselves on how well you played! Doesn't it bother you that you all think you played that weel and ended up with ......nothing!

That it not a good sign!

Dont bang on about tackles from Rooney, Fletcher and the twins when they have clearly never made a shocking tackle like the w****rs. At least none of them ever shot someone with an air rifle, pure class at your club. Hope your proud.

Bazza