Chelsea Banter Archive August 19 2015

19 Aug 2015 22:26:47
Chelsea backed in to 7/2 clear favourites to sign Paul Pogba. Any news ED018?

{Ed018's Note - no I'd have to ask which I won't be able to today but I have noticed the rumour is doing it's rounds today so maybe something could be happening}

19 Aug 2015 20:58:33
Another goal for Pasalic today, looking like he could be absolutely class as a goal scoring deep lying midfielder or even box to box!

19 Aug 2015 20:13:34
We need a centre back and have been linked with this guy before. We bid 30 mill for stones and could have saved millions . Doesn't make sense


RUDIGER AGREES ROMA LOAN DEAL

Roma have announced the signing of Germany international Antonio Rudiger on a season-long loan from Stuttgart.

The 22-year-old defender, who has made 66 league appearances for Stuttgart since making his first team debut in January 2012, joins the Serie A side on a 4m deal (£2.8m).

A statement from Roma read: "AS Roma are pleased to announce that German defender Antonio Rudiger has joined on a season-long loan from Stuttgart for a fee of four million euros.

"The agreement also includes the option to make the transfer permanent from the 2016/17 season for a fee of €9m (£6.3m)."

19 Aug 2015 20:25:42
Rudiger is the same kind of defender as Zouma, and arguably not as good.

19 Aug 2015 20:34:42
I don't think a deal like that would've been done if it was with Chelsea. They'd probably have asked for a higher amount and it wouldn't have been a loan-to-buy deal.
Rudiger is a good talent and would've probably been cheaper than Stones, but there are still better players out there. Even in Germany. Niklas Süle is an absolute behemoth of a player and is very talented. That's just one example.
We'll get our guy. And though I don't rate Stones all that highly, I believe we'll get him.

19 Aug 2015 23:06:47
Jackson if you haven't noticed home grown players are highly overrated due to serious lack of good ones.

20 Aug 2015 10:07:35
I've never understood this Rudiger rumour - whenever I've seen him play he looks average at best and seems like a mistake waiting to happen.

19 Aug 2015 18:53:10
Hi eds I was wondering with pedro and (fingers crossed) stones arriving. Do you see us potentially trying to sign another attacking player or will we be done purchasing.
Thanks in advance and great work on the page.

{Ed018's Note - yes they would still like to add Griezmann but it might not be possible}

19 Aug 2015 21:39:28
I would let oscar go if griezman would come, move hazard centrally and let pedro/griezmann on the flanks

19 Aug 2015 17:56:21
There are so many ridiculous stuff published by press all over the world. It's amazing what would so called journalists write to get people's attention. They are inventing stories day by day. Speculations, lies , half truths etc. One of those stories was planted in last few days ''Roman Abramovich approved spending spree''.Amazing, how ignorant and non informed can be person who wrote it. Chelsea fc has been financially independent for several years and still people who write about football do not know basic informations.
It's sad that nowdays reliable press practically doesn't exist anymore.

19 Aug 2015 18:04:09
The irony! You're our very own Harry, Antibot. I don't know whether to laugh or cry but have worked out that debate is pointless. You just got to enjoy the ride

19 Aug 2015 19:28:47
??!

20 Aug 2015 07:18:14
I have to say Melbourne, that cracked me up. Bravo!

20 Aug 2015 09:37:04
Why so serious :)

19 Aug 2015 14:59:53
Hi ed018, great site mate.

am I right in saying that if a release clause is met it means extra fees have to be paid? This would explain man u willing to pay 500k under the asking price but not meet the release

{Ed018's Note - I don't know the specifics but if you search the site you might be able to find a pretty big post from Ed002 explaining all that stuff}

19 Aug 2015 18:09:18
My understanding is that Man U were offering more than Chelsea if you include add-ons but, as soon as Chelsea came in, Pedro was never going to move his family to Manchester rather than London.

19 Aug 2015 19:52:50
I am not sure is this panic buy or previously planned move. But it certainly means one winger will leave.

19 Aug 2015 21:41:13
Hopefuly cuardaro, moses can go too, give traore a chance!

19 Aug 2015 15:52:13
Get Verrati and we're back in business

19 Aug 2015 13:49:08
Hey Ed.

It's looking like Chelsea will Pedro, can you tell us what players are likely to be bought/sold? Are Chelsea likely to buy a central midfielder?

{Ed018's Note - my guess would be Moses and Cuadrado would seem the most likely. Not sure about a cm}

19 Aug 2015 15:08:05
I'd personally keep Moses and loan Traore, Kennedy (if signed) and Cuadrado he's shown the most promise.

19 Aug 2015 11:47:34
ssn are stating Man U have dropped interest in pedro.

Mrs Costa u legend! Fingers crossed it goes through .

19 Aug 2015 11:59:11
Hopefully it is being misreported. This will most definitely turn out to be a signing for a signings sake. He will fizzle out quicker then Cesc and turn into a impact sub. He isn't good enough, and certainly isn't strong enough for the Premier League.

19 Aug 2015 12:06:01
Don't usually disagree with you Melbourne, but have to on this one. Top player in my opinion, scores and gets assists. Plus psychologically the deal reflects poorly on United, especially following LVG making comments about Pedro.

19 Aug 2015 12:11:02
Damn Melbourne CFC, we agree. I thought I was alone thinking exactly the same. Too fragile for the Premiership and seems it is a 'points scoring' signing rather than well thought out. I sincerely hope we are wrong and not another Cuadrado.

19 Aug 2015 12:27:39
I just hope he doesn't turn out to be another Salah or Cuadrado, or even Willian.

19 Aug 2015 12:32:12
Agreed with Melb :/ not good enough

19 Aug 2015 12:33:50
You started the sentence so well CFCFOREVER ;)

I could well be wrong mate, and I agree he will add goals and assists but it won't be every game, and he won't improve the team on the whole. there's a reason he has barely started for Barca for the last few years. Even pre Suarez he wasn't getting starts regularly. I hope I'm wrong on this one too mate, but I'm not convinced I will be. Will still support the bloke though

19 Aug 2015 12:52:07
You trying to get me to change my mind, Frensham? ;)

19 Aug 2015 13:08:05
Melbourne, the reason pre-Suarez was Neymar. Before Neymar joined, he was averaging 41 appearances a season. Plus his goal record is around 1 in 3 games and I think around 118 assists in about 350 games? I have always rated him very highly to be honest!
Good to see you back to posting regularly though, nice to have some common sense for once! ;)

19 Aug 2015 14:52:38
Stats are deceptive mate. How many of those appearances were starts? How many goals came late on against tired legs?

19 Aug 2015 16:26:41
If he passes to Messi and Messi then dribbles round 11 players and scores does that count as an assist?

19 Aug 2015 16:39:58
I know one of those came in the Wembley Champions League Final in 2011 against Manchester United ;)

19 Aug 2015 16:50:47
Pedro is better than wht we have atm for right wing.
Cuadrado is carrots can't even run let alone play football.
Willian is superb but doesn't score enough. I'd prefer willian in the att centre mid.love willian.
Moses had a great pre season but is never going to hold down a first team.
Toare needs loaning out still young and still has a lot to learn.

Team if we sign pedro.

Courtios
Dave zouma terry rahman
Fab matic
Pedro willian/ oscar hazard
Costa

Don't shoot me down people only my opinion.
Ur opinions welcome no abuse please we are all cfc supporter!
Up the blues!

19 Aug 2015 17:06:28
Love how ghe ed's change S***t to carrots lol quailty

19 Aug 2015 17:13:26
RedRosie - great point mate. I'm sure that accounts for a good portion of his assists.

CFCFOREVER - you've just instantly come round to the idea a little more ;)

Wheely - I agree he is better than what we have, or at least more direct, but don't agree on Willian. His passing range isn't great, he rarely scores, all he really offers is a terrific workrate and pace. I don't see a central move being beneficial to him, or the team.

Also mate don't put any attention into if someone shoots down your opinion or not. If they do its just their opinion. Too many on this page seem to be fragile when it comes to open debate. If someone you don't know, says something online you don't agree with, and it hurts your feelings, you really need to learn better coping mechanisms

19 Aug 2015 18:38:16
Red Rosie has spoken an awful lot of sense, are you sure you are a United fan?!

19 Aug 2015 19:18:24
Wheelycfc: That is a useful defensive line up if they can gel quickly and enhances attacking options. Might get shot but given his hint of coming back to form, I would replace Fabregas with Oscar and give a full outing to Falcao. The cameo roles will never give us a clue as to whether he still has it but if he has it would increase firepower. As much as I like Willian for effort he's not scoring and I think slows the play.

19 Aug 2015 20:00:48
Whatever Melbourne thinks there's a lot of frustration and panic on MU page.

19 Aug 2015 11:34:52
Talksport reporting Pedro signed, had a feeling that it would happen!

19 Aug 2015 08:40:12
Question, do you feel Mourinho will turn it round and for us to kick on? Or do you think we'll only just get top 4?

I really feel we will kick on and still win the league. Though City do look good.

Hoping for stones and Isco!

19 Aug 2015 11:39:49
I think Mourinho knew we were not the finished article last year and got caught up in internal transfer policy hence his comments and actions to send a message to the finance men. If he can get who he wants then I believe only Manchester City stand in our way. Having seen most in some form, they have upped their game but nobody apart from City look particularly impressive and even they still look vulnerable at the back. Win it, maybe but I see no worse than top two. Whatever the papers say Mourinho and Terry have not become ordinary overnight.

19 Aug 2015 12:33:11
Good points freshnam. No one has looked good apart from city and Leicester!

18 Aug 2015 23:37:20
ed002 please come back. I crave some reliable transfer info - all the papers are reporting ridiculous bids for every player.