Chelsea Banter Archive September 17 2012

17 Sep 2012 22:41:22
loan round up of all players out on loan, copy & pasted from 'we aint got no history' if any of you wanna see how the likes of mceachran davillas or hutchinson & van aanholt are doing. BLUEBOY1


Romelu Lukaku (West Bromwich Albion): Lukaku came on at the start of the second half in a 3-0 to Fulham, and he had himself another solid showing. He had one shot that drew a save, won two of his three aerial battles, and did not misplace a single pass. He does need to protect the ball better when he's driving into the box though, as he was dispossessed three times. Steve Clarke has been impressed with him, and he figures to get a start in the near future as Peter Odemwingie sits out three games after a straight red for violent conduct.

Yossi Benayoun (West Ham United): Yossi made his Hammer debut in the 87th minute. He managed three more touches in that time than he'll likely get for Chelsea in the future.

Thibaut Courtois (Atletico Madrid): The Belgian number one had very little to do for the first 81 minutes of the game, but then the Atletico defense decided to take the rest of the night off. The 4-0 lead quickly became a 4-3 narrow victory, but there was really nothing Courtois could have done with any of the goals.

Michael Essien (Real Madrid): Essien was an unused substitute as Real Madrid lost to Sevilla. With the loss, Real Madrid are now eight points behind Barcelona. The La Liga title race may already be over.

Kevin De Bruyne (Werder Bremen): De Bruyne played in a central midfield role, and he was absolutely fantastic in Werder's 3-2 loss. The Tintin look-alike touched the ball 65 times in his central role and completed 79% of his passes. Oh yeah, he scored a goal as well.

Jeffrey Bruma (Hamburger SV): Like Bremen, HSV lost 3-2 over the weekend. Jeffrey Bruma played the full 90 at right back, and he was by far the best of the HSV defender. With that being said, he still didn't have a particularly great game and was largely responsible for the first goal. Bruma is a more than capable defender on the right, but he just doesn't offer all that much to the attack

Milan Lalkovic (Vitoria SC): Liga Sagres had only a single fixture scheduled this weekend, so Vitoria scheduled a friendly. Lalkovic got the start, played the full 90, scored a goal and assisted another.

Matej Delac (Vitoria SC): Delac was on the bench for the Vitoria friendly, but he did not play.

Tomas Kalas (Vitesse Arnhem): Tomas Kalas played all of last season in the center of the defense, but he made his second straight appearance for Vitesse at right back over the weekend. Shockingly enough, he's a pretty excellent right back. He scored a goal in this one, the second senior goal of his career.

Patrick van Aanholt (Vitesse Arnhem): PvA didn't want to be outdone by the other Chelsea fullback playing for Vitesse, so he had an outstanding game of his own and assisted on a pair of goals. He may have been the best player on the pitch, but that didn't stop one of the worst refereeing decisions I've ever see from landing him in the books.

Gael Kakuta (Vitesse Arnhem): Kakuta did not play as he was nursing a slight injury.

Kenneth Omeruo (ADO Den Haag): Omeruo took his usual starting place on the right hand side of the defense, and as usual he was very impressive in the 3-1 victory. He added an assist in the away win for Den Haag, and was all over the right side of the pitch. With as poorly as the Nigerian national team has looked recently, you'd have to think that Omeruo is making his way onto the radar. The again, I almost hope Nigerian coach Stephen Keshi is never allowed anywhere near the young defender.

Amin Affane (Roda JC): Affane got his first start for Roda, and he was very good in the 4-0 loss to AZ Alkmaar. The talent gap between the two clubs is pretty immense, so it will be interesting to see how Affane looks when the game is a little more competitive.

Thorgan Hazard (Zulte-Waregem): Hazard played in an advanced midfield role over the weekend, and he was very, very good for Zulte. I think it's fairly likely that he's going to be one of the better players in the Belgian League by the end of this season.

Josh McEachran (Middlesbrough): Josh started again for Middlesbrough, and he had what was likely his best game since joining on loan. As usual, he was very calm and composed in possession. What stood out for me on the weekend, though, was his work in defense. He found himself in the perfect spot to intercept the ball on a few occasions, and his tackling looked pretty good as well.

Sam Hutchinson (Nottingham Forest): Hutch started again at right back for Nottingham Forest, and he looked pretty good in doing so. It's nice to see that his knee injuries of the past don't seem to be affecting his play this season. The regular minutes appear to be helping his fitness considerably, and he's been much more active than he ever was for Chelsea last season.

Ben Gordon (Birmingham City): For the second straight weekend, Gordon did not play for Birmingham. Gordon will be out of contract at the end of this season, and if he can't beat out David Murphy for minutes it would seem unlikely he'll ever have a use at Chelsea. It's time to start impressing in training Ben...

Nathaniel Chalobah (Watford): Chalobah was named to the bench, but he went unused by Gianfranco Zola's side on the weekend.

Ulises Davila (CE Sabadell): Davila played a pair of games and Davila scored in the first. He scored the opener as Sabadell beat Hercules 2-0, and then came off the bench as Sabadell came back to beat Real Madrid B 3-2. He looks very good so far this season.

Archange Nkumu (Yeovil Town):Nkumu was an unused substitute this past weekend for Yeovil Town. I'd expect to see him return to Chelsea shortly.

Rohan Ince (Yeovil Town): Ince was also unused on the weekend, but in Ince's case it's a bit of a surprise. Hopefully he'll be back on the pitch for the next roundup.

Conor Clifford (Portsmouth): Clifford was an unused substitute on the bench, and his one-month loan is winding down. He hasn't forced his way into regular minutes yet, so it would be a surprise if the loan is extended.

Sam Walker (Bristol Rovers): Walker is getting plenty of work at Bristol, as his defense might be the worst in any of the top four divisions of English football. He let in four that he couldn't have done much about in the defeat to Gillingham, but honestly it could have been so much worse. At least he's getting lot's of work on his shot stopping.

Jhon Pirez (Leganes): Pirez appears to be injured. Anyone surprised?

Top post mate.

Out of the 24 i'd say you're probably looking at 9/10 being possible regulars for the Chelsea squad in the future. Courtois, Lukaku, Josh and De Bruyne for definate. Kalas, Chalobah, Hazard, Davila, Hutchinson and Lalkovic possibly.

On a side note, did anybody just watch the Chelsea: Champions of Europe programme on SS1? Fantastic. Couldn't stop smiling. Goosebumps the whole way through.

OsgoodIsKing

Great post, thanks.

Imo Hutchinson will never be a regular he is 23 and in no way better than cahill or luiz at centra back and with chelsea just signed Azpilicueta, who will become our regular rb for years to come, i doubt he will become a regular, but thats only my opinion.

In a team of 25 guys, 14 aren't regulars. It's called a squad.

Tk

I'd love to see more of top posts like this. We should give you your own youth report section!
Top quality mate!
CFCFOREVER!

Its a squad of 25 Tk mate, not a team, that would be classed as cheating...unless the refs Howard Webb and the team in question is United.

OsgoodIsKing

Cfcforever why give him his own section he even said himself he copied and pasted it

curt

I got this from the website/Chelsea blog. I just copied and pasted. Just thought everyone would like the info on the lads away on loan. As some are hard to find out about. Cheers . BLUEBOY1

Yer it helped out alot to be fair blueboy but im not going to give you all the credit for it :D

curt

I don't wanna any credit mate, just thought everyone on this site would be interested. Nice to see how the loans are doing. BLUEBOY1

Yer without a doubt mate will give everyone more of an understanding who chelsea will likely keep and sell

curt

17 Sep 2012 19:20:51
Just watched the highlights of Juve's game against Genoa. I found from watching the highlights several things.
1) Although they have some excellent defenders, it seemed as though they are weak from set pieces and balls into the box. Corners and Set pieces we should take advantage of.
2) Their forward line is not great, they rely on the midfield for goals and assists a lot of the time.
3) Giaccherini. I didn't just pick him out because he scored (although it was a lovely shot), I picked him out because he is fast and will cut in, so you will need to track him as he drifts in.
4) Finally they push their full backs right up when attacking, so it's of an massive importance that when we break we break fast, and have Moses and Hazard on the wings not Rami and Bertrand.

Thought I'd let you chaps know what I thought.

PR!

P.s Look out for Giovinco!

And u got all of that from highlights, thats all i needed to know.

So points 1 & 2 are just like us then.
looks like a draw if you ask me!!

17 Sep 2012 17:33:47
Claudio Raneiri...what a legend.

Good old Tinkerman would have been in his element with our current squad.

OsgoodIsKing

Oh yes!

PR!

Imagine trying to predict the line up pre game. The bookies could even start up a way to bet on it. At least we might see a change from the Mikel/ lamps pivot we all love so much.
Marley

17 Sep 2012 15:18:41
In a kind of 4-3-3, this would be 'my' line-up and preferred duo/trio for each position (*Little/no preference to who starts or comes from the bench, as I believe there's quality in all these players).
------------Cech/*Curtious------------
Azpi/Iva-Luiz/Cahil/JT/-Cole/RB

Ramirez/Romeu--Mikel/McEachran

-----Oscar/Lamps/Piazon-----

Hazard/Moses-----------Mata/Marin

----Torres/Sturridge----

NB: Hope these Fellaini ruomours r true!

Bas!cs.

Yess. BLUEBOY1

17 Sep 2012 14:54:16
My predicted team to start vs Juve:

Cech

Ivanovic*Luiz*Terry*Cole

Oscar*Mikel

Moses*Mata*Hazard

Torres

Oscar wont start for some f-ing reason!!
I really wana see this guy start a match, he runs the brazil team with a lot of class players in the side, why RDM keeps playing Ramires as a winger i dont know! Lampard and Ramires in the pivot with Hazard, Mata and OCSAR all rotating behind the striker. Who that striker should be is a tough one! DJ

Init keeps out ganso & kaka

Moses is the second striker.Oscar ,Mata and Hazard will sit in behingd Torres and Moses in attack and Mikel will sit deep with Cole pushing up the left side

17 Sep 2012 09:20:54
when rdm was appointed, i was one of a few who voiced our concerns if he was the right man for the job,we got slaughtered,plastic fans, etc etc, 4 games in ,top of the league,but i have noticed a lot of u turns by many of the persons that threw the abuse our way,like i said before i hope rdm proves me wrong, but its only a matter of time with his team selections and tactics before we start dropping down the table ,as the cup games are starting now.


rayzor

Your complaining about di matteo have you seen the start of pools, citys and uniteds seasons the only team on a par with us at the moment is arsenal

you can expect to win every game and theres always going to be bad games for us look at madrid they have done nothing so far there like 6 points a drift of barca

curt

As usual curt" read the post",4 games top of the league i said!!!!!and a matter of time,the next bit,how did i ever know if someone was going to jump down my throat it would be you.

Soz...
rayzor

I was referring to the fact that you was against di matteo in the first place

we was poor against queens park but we will have bad games

curt

Curt weve had 3 bad games in 6 and was lucky against reading ,if you are happy with that fair enough,im not,its all about opinions.

rayzor

Comfortable wins against wigan and newcastle

showed our typical chelsea spirit against reading and bounced back

very unlucky against city

average against queens park and got bossed by altheltico

as i said you cant expect us to play to our peak performance every game

curt

Well i dont think weve played our best in any game yet,bounced back against reading,1 nil up at home to a championship side, that the spuds mullered yesterday,comfortable against wigan?curt i know you love cfc me to,but take of the rose tinted specs.

rayzor

Ok firstly rayzor my glasses would be blue tinted not rose

your find we went 2-1 down to reading and bounced back so yes bounced back

you cant call reading a championship team thats a bit of an insult to them, theres a reason why there in this league

you got to remember how many games the whole squad has played in a short time including international games aswel

your acting like were in crisis rock bottom of the table or something

man city and united started worse than us there not panicing

curt

Curt, we have a squad, we should expect to see pretty decent performances most of the time. If players aren't performing or are tired, rotate them. It's the 4th game into the season and we seem to have reverted to last years tactics already.

The post under yours is what im saying curt,utd 1 point city2 points behind,please rtp again theres no panic in my post,but reading won promotion from championship and we was 1 up at home should never have been 2.1 behind,but reply of blue tinted glasses gave me a chuckle.

rayzor

Rayzor don't waste your time on Curt, most of us understand what u r saying. Curt is being result driven, while u see the results but also the future dangers if we continue on the same path. Some fans, as long as get a result nothing else matters.

He is also reluctant join the 'slate RDM' discussion because alot of it centers on the old guard he keeps playing and Curt suks Lampard's d**k and doesn't like Torres instead of thinking about what's best for the team.

Then he makes excuses when the play is bad like, "those were exibition games and the players didn't go all out to win them". Or we 'shut it down' for and entire half and give up a lot of possesion after a 2 goal lead against good or bad opposition because of course that's what all the best clubs in the world do.

The question is weather Man city, united, barca, or Madrid would have sent out a defensive sqaud against the mighty QPR

Cheers lads,good to know people share my concerns for the future,like you very worried carrying on down this road.


rayzor

Im not result driven

i say get off lamps back because of what hes done for us and the fact he was still our top goal scorer last year

if you must know i backed torres until now hes not good enough and never will be again

we had euro's, olympics, friendlies, glorified friendlies, international friendlies, international qualifiers, league games all in the space of 3 months if we rested all of them we would be playing u21 players

city and united are points behind us so whats your problem

if your going on one performance then we might aswel give the champion's league back so barca and munich can play for it

your a mug you dont know anything (not aimed at you rayzor i get your point just think its early days yet)

curt

17 Sep 2012 00:08:13
When will Our new RB Play In the senior squad ?

In the league cup I expect vs wolves BLUEBOY1