Chelsea Banter Archive October 17 2012

 

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17 Oct 2012 23:35:27
Why Does Roberto Di Matteo Not Play Daniel Sturridge ..

I Do Not Get It .. He Is A Great Young Footballer .. And Has A Lot Of Potential .. Yet He Hasn't Featured At All This Season For Chelsea ..

I Honestly Would Be Very Sad To See Daniel Sturridge .. Chelsea's Number 23 .. Leave ..

Keep Him .. And Play Him .. Or Atleast Bring Him On As A Sub ..

He Deserves Better ..

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18 Oct 2012 01:02:13
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Bas!cs.

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He has been hurt for a while. That being said Danny could have one role here and if that's not good enough for him he can have a larger role at a smaller club.

Tk

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Same argument for Romeu!

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Difference is Romeu is actually better than Mikel :D

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Sturridge has been injured for a while and he has made sub appearences against QPR and someone else but can't remember who.

Blue con

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I have heard that he and his family have been angling for a move for some time. RDM does not fancy him and he will be gone. We do not need a sulker in the camp.

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What like Torres did last season and storming off down the tunnel in the qpr game ?

Blue con

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17 Oct 2012 22:42:48
Guys,I actually was joking about neymar.I have a Mate who rates FIFA very highly and he thinks LUIZ is crap because of his overall. He is a liverpool fan and doesn't want sturridge "why do we want sturridge when he's only 78" I laugh and laugh at him as he is such a FIFA fanatic. On FIFA 13 we enquired about NEYMAR and they wanted 35 million for him so I decided to offer 30 million + Malouda and they accepted it so I gave a laugh and posted it ( he visits this page a couple of times a week and is regularly on the Liverpool page so Im sure. He'll laugh :D

Billy

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18 Oct 2012 12:29:08
why waste time will this rubbish?

curt

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Stop making excuses for saying something completely stupid billy.. U made a mistake just be a man and accept it.. It wasn't a funny joke either way so drop it.
Marley

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Billy your digging yourself into a deep hole here mate

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17 Oct 2012 20:40:41
Eds, can you please enlighten to me as to why Billy Clifford was given a long term deal? Anyone who knows anything about football knows that he is a million miles away from being anywhere near the class of footballer required at Chelsea. I'm fairly certain he'll end up below the Championship. It concerns me that someone in the club saw potential in him. Any comment on this would be great. Many thanks - James13.

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Billy Cliffords well good you moron! he can play practically anywhere, he score, he can defend, im pretty sure he's better than youuuuuuuuuuu

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Sorry forgot to signmy reply

peds

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17 Oct 2012 21:56:54
Ashley cole is a better left back than Leighton baines. End of.

Dan1CFC

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Everton fans will say its Baines, we reckon it's Cole (it is!) so the only way to judge is leave it in the hands of the neutrals and selectors. Cole wins.

Melbourne CFC

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Baines is a more all rounded player - Cole is better going forward but I think Baines is better positionally when defending.

KiwiRed

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Baines is slower and well worse defensively. The only area he beats cole is with service and gimmick things like free kicks which are a nonfactor for me.

Tk

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Baines trumps Cole in every department, and is 2nd in assists only to an attack minded Arsenal's Santi Cazorla. Plus he scores goals regularly and is on a par defensively but he offers tons more going forward. The 'comparison' is an oxymoron. There is no comparison. Baines is far superior.

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I couldnt agree more with Tk

Dan1CFC

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Only thing cashley has on Baines is experience

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18 Oct 2012 12:30:12
cole is much better and once he retires it will be jordi alba and marcelo who will take over as the best left backs

curt

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Don't forget about fabio coentrao that guy is brilliant but its a shame that hes got to compete with marcelo at Real Madrid.

Blue con

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What are you on about? Hazard has the most assists

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Don't forget lahm!

Jordan

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A. Cole was well thumped by the poles yesterday

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Hazard has the most assists ? Clearly you haven't seen the stats.

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I'm sure Baines was in the PFA team of the year and statistically has been better in all departments for the past 2 years.

I will agree with chelski fans in saying Cole has a slight advantage defensively (solely on premier league experience) but Baines going forward is in a different league, plain and simple. More goals, more assists, more goal opportunities created and converted. Proof is in the pudding chaps.

I swear you need to ask yourselves, ANY decent and level-headed chelsea fan (and i'm sure they're some of you out there.. somewhere) will believe Baines is the obvious choice for all the reasons mentioned above, he is a solid and unbelievably consistent defender who coincidentally provides you with what is the number one priority in football.. GOALS!

Don't be hating on a toffee in peace, I am just stating fact (not opinion, FACT).

toffee jack

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Well obviously not cause hes not playing for a top 4 side and Ashley cole is England's best left back that's why hes number 1.

Blue con

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Who cares coles a winner

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Think you've got that the wrong way round there con ! Baines IS playing for a top 4 side, cashley isn't. Not opinion, fact. Take those Chelski tinted specs off and you might, just might, see that the truth is out there. All you have to do is look. Then again you are Chelski and your ignorance knows no bounds. {Ed018's Note - what are you on about. Lets not even start to compare what Baines has done compared to Cole. What a pointless post, and yes I do think Baines is a good player. Oh and who's top of the league}

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Ed there just a joke their obviously just jealous that we've got the best left back in the world.

Blue con

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As an Irish man, does it really matter whose better, think yourselfs lucky you have 2 outstanding left backs for your country, for once who ever plays don't look for faults in them just support them, to much negativity and biasedness towards each clubs and there players

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17 Oct 2012 20:09:04
lamps and cole probably want 150k a week at their age, they are not worth that mata is on 55k ! and whats oscar on 40? i wouldnt pay lamps half of mata. reason is he doesnt fit our tactics atm so maybe chelsea are trying to push them out. frank maybe a legend but we shouldnt let anyone hold us back on the field or financially.

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I very much agree there is no reason Lamps should earn so much money sitting on the bench, and when he plays pivot he ****s up the play when moving forward. He is not one of the very good players we need anymore therefor i think his salary should be reduced to what he gives to the club. Like i dont want Torres to be on those huge wages if he is gonna sit on the bench if we get Falcao.
But i do not mind Cole being on them as he players great at the moment maybe still a bit stupid not to give Bertrand playing time.

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17 Oct 2012 16:18:04
Yesterday I posted that Baines was a better player than Cole and was met with some strong denies. If you didnt look at it through tinted glasses you would see that Baines scores more, creates more, has more tackles and more passes than ashley. I need say more.

Mickey blue eyes

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I believe Baines is better tan Cole. I would swap the two players all day long.

Mitch

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So why is he not playing for a top 4 team. Or a team competing in the champions league?

CT13

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Its only a matter of time. Maybe with Everton the way they have started this season.

Mitch

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17 Oct 2012 17:12:54
clueless absolutely clueless !!!!

when cole retires marcelo will be the best left back in the world followed closely by jordi alba

curt

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CT13 Baines is currently playing for a top 4 side arnt Everton in fourth place at this moment?

Neil

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Neil please don't be so fickle, it just makes you look stupid and naive.

Everton are a team that should be finishing within places 5-8. They are not and never will be a top 4 team.

And can we please ignore Leightons dad next time he decides to post how his son is better than the best left back in the world.

OsgoodIsKing

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OsgoodIsKing. Be carefull about calling people fickle.
Dont forget we would not be a top 4 club if it was not for our money.
Weather you agree or not Everton deserve credit not just for there history but for how there club functions.

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I also agree that Everton deserve some credit. We are a top team, no dought about it but Everton our the best run club in the league. And if we ever find our selves without any £££ then i hope we would follow the example they have set.
Tony P

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David moyes deserves credit, non of the rest of that club. bertrand will be better than baines, and as for goals baines takes penalties

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How can you say that moyes deserves credit not the rest of the club. Thats like saying abramovich deserves all the credit not our club come on guys the kid can play and is currently a better player than Ashley stats prove it. And as for he takes pens couldnt we say the same about Lampard and dont see people saying same about Ronaldo at Madrid. Everton are a top club and do it on a shoe string and deserve credit for it and if we had an option we would go for Baines and not one of us would complain.

Tommy H

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Cole has a longer stamina, is quicker, best positioned left back, had a better career, better passer of the ball and loads more, yeah baines is a great left back, but cole is the best left back atm, then marcelo, baines would be bout 4-6th, baines only scores more due to penalties. Cole is better than baines

JMJW

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Why be careful calling people fickle? He was trying to be a smarta*se by calling someone out and stating a fickle fact. How are Everton a top 4 club?

And before the money came along we were in a much better position league wise than Everton are now.

OsgoodIsKing

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And playing better football!

Luke

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Did Curt just say Marcelo is the second best left back in the world? haha he is so useless defensively its not funny!!

KiwiRed

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If yer know your history then it is set in stone that Everton IS a top 4 club in terms of trophies won and Chelsea are nowhere near them. You bought your recent 'trophies' with the Ruski's money. Ignorance is bliss eh Osgood ? Fact is you'd be plying your trade in the championship or league 1 without your sugar daddy and you'll never have the history or tradition Everton have. You can't buy that even with Papa roman's money.! And Baines is twice the person and player cashley is. I've never read an article saying Baines has shot some kid. Anyway, have fun while it lasts cos the Russian won't be around forever. {Ed061's Note - You are an absolute windowlicker mate aren't you. If you know anything about history it shows you that the clubs that spend money, win trophies. You should remember some of the more recent FA cup finals. Remember when Saha scored inside 2 minutes and all you morons starting celebrating! I've never read an article saying Mourinho wants Baines at RM or Anchelloti at PSG. 'papa Roman' is one of the longest standing owners in the prem mate and sure as hell didn't just reinvest in the team so that he could just pack up and leave. You bitters are using up all our oxygen so neck off back to you hole.}

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I'm a window licker Ed ? And you my friend are a dyslexic accident. What you doing Editing. Money buys trophies ? Yea without that you wouldn't have any would you ? Oh, sorry maybe the odd one or two... Also wasn't there rumours Real wanted Felli ? Face it you fool without your sugar daddy you'd be where you belong, Championship at best. You haven't got a clue !! {Ed061's Note - Wtf does fellani have to do with Baines and cole you waste of energy? You Merseysiders are deadset a couple hookers short of a brothel. You keep referring to him as our sugar daddy, it's not our fault a businessman from Russia saw something in our club he didn't in yours. Grow up you bitter little boy.}

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From a neutral perspective I'd like to say that Everton are a proper football club and would never sell their soul to corrupt, Russian, mafioso oligarchs. Their soul is intact wheras Chelski is a fake entity {Ed061's Note - Your IP puts you right in the heart of Everton? Neutral ey :-)}

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All he saw in Chelsea that he didn't in Everton was logistics. Plain and simple. Even for you Ed 061 {Ed061's Note - your right, he saw absolutely no growth prospects for your little club.}

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You mean 'you're right' ? {Ed061's Note - You're a f*ckwit. Better?

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Lol how would we be championship if we didnt have roman? We would be in top 4 still as we were before he came

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Roman did save us ,fair play everton are a proper football team tradition and loyalty,i respect teams like everton, but we do have abramovic,we do have money,we do have world class players and we have the CHAMPIONS LEAGUE !,were building our history right now !!!

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Some respect for Everton. At last...begrudgingly I suppose but respect nonetheless. Well said kidder

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17 Oct 2012 14:45:07
Is the England game on tv?

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Itv, 3.30 I believe.
Marley

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Ahk. they didnt update their tv guide. thanks

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17 Oct 2012 11:32:08
Ed, why has Chelsea become a club that now will accept reasonable offers for players, especially good young home grown players, why aren't we saying no and trying to build on what we have instead of buying every window.

One Bomb Tom {Ed002's Note - If a player wishes to leave the club will not stand in his way if an acceptable offer comes in.}

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What players have we sold? {Ed002's Note - Meireles, Alex, Zhirkov, Matic ...}

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I do not think you understand what ED is saying. For example if Torres wanna leave and Arsenal bid 35m for him we would sell him but if they bid 15m we wouldnt, you see the point? All players in the world is for sale for the right price even Messi.

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Yeah but no top quality players

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17 Oct 2012 09:37:03
I have a question for ed002... Why do u think we have had such a big strategy shift in transfers? It obviously is much better but why was our strategy so poor before!? We used to buy big names at the wrong time of their careers on big money and then lose them for next to nothing, whereas now we are investing for the next 5 years minimum. We still have people like Ferreira and hilario on big wages when they aren't anywhere near the playing field.

Is somebody to blame for this? Was it peter Kenyans philosophy?

Dave {Ed002's Note - It is to do with the need for the club to move toward being self-sufficient. This past year or to has seen a refresh of older players required.}

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17 Oct 2012 10:30:53
If we get NEYMAR my team will be
-----------CECH--------------
AZ---LUIZ-----TERRY---ASH
------RAMI----OSCAR-------
HAZARD--MATA---NEYMAR
-----------TORRES-----------

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

CRAP TEAM OR GOOD TEAM?

BILLY

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Good team...VERY good team

OsgoodIsKing

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I would like some more muscle in the team, ramires and Oscar aren't very tall and strong would feel a bit exsposed, Jack Rodwell would have been perfect for us!

One Bomb Tom

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Jack Rodwell is a poor player. He couldnt get into the Everton team, he has had one playing for Man City

why on earth would we want him?

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Ramires is suprisingly strong and i think that team is exellent, best form of defence is attack

Jordan

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Attack is not the best form of attack if it was then why doesnt sturridge play centre back

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'Attack is not the best form of attack'...?

Gotchya...you heard him Robby. If we want to score more goals we need to play more defenders and defend defend defend.

OsgoodIsKing

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17 Oct 2012 09:23:28
Guys about 30 + MALOUDA for NEYMAR was a joke so settle down :D

BILLY

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M8 you did not joke about it you really tought he was worth that much just admit it.

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Wed have to pay more for them to take malouda

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17 Oct 2012 03:00:47
As a Chelsea fan I am extremely disappointed with Fernando Torres. I have been to many Chelsea games were the fans constantly sing his name (most notably the Wolves game he was on the bench for and mentioned). However after all the support we gave him, more than any other player, to then talk about Liverpool the way he did and talk as if he didn't care about Chelsea really got to me.
Is it just me who feels this?

A11 {Ed061's Note - Mate you need to read the entire interview to grasp what he said and the context he meant it in. The style Carlo/AVB played did not suit him and when left out of the team he didn't care if we won or lost. He said he hated feeling this way, and never wanted to be one of those players. He also said he needed too change his game to become a more selfless, complete player. Since RDM changed tactics he has loved his time and really enjoys setting up and scoring goals now. He has always said how much he loves and appreciates the support we Chelsea fans have always given him.}

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Yeah mate, what ED61 said.

ELI

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I actually agree with both the poster and Ed061.

Anybody who talks about not wanting the team to win is acting selfishly and I'm sure he wasn't the only one. However I am pretty sure that AVBs treatment of players is responsible for this feeling.

It does make me think that he is only interested in collecting his wages. Also, torres did get a fair chance! He was just playing poorly. It was a long time before AVB dropped him! But we all stood by Torres and I do feel he shouldn't have said what he said.. a bit like Lukaku shouldn't have said his piece after the champions league final, even tho they are humans and feel the same frustration we do as fans.

All in all, i think too many chelsea players have too much freedom with the media which reflects on us that we have poor discipline. (remember lampard on avb, a.cole, lukaku?)

Dave

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Nah Ed061's talking bollox. Torres will be off to Juve in jan

KiwiRed

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Torres was playing in a team not suited to him as simple as that, if Chelsea had purchased Andy Carrol that window instead he'd have scored 20 + goals for us because we played to that kind of stength.
One Bomb Tom {Ed061's Note - Haha I don't know about that Tom.}

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