Chelsea Banter Archive December 17 2011

 

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17 Dec 2011 22:54:34
Hmm Sturridge played well hope I just broke the tension keep the faith

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17 Dec 2011 22:13:13
Ed, who do you do your dreamteam with? And how many points you got? {Ed002's Note - It is a Daily Telegrapgh team and I am not sure on the points - I would need to check.}

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17 Dec 2011 21:50:43
Sack AVB now . {Ed002's Note - Same troll.}

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Cheer up mate cant always win

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17 Dec 2011 20:45:36
I dont understand taking off Romeu for Kalou to then bring on Mikel who is a poorer player than Romeu to play in the same exact role. Why the hell he insists on taking Mata off every bloody game is really frustrating me, if he cant play 90 minutes due to fitness levels then he souldnt be a professional footballer which oviously isnt the reason. He is our best player to then consistantly use Malouda as a sub when every game he has shown no passion or real ability is frustrating. McEachran would have added some life and drive in the Midfield and Torres should have come on for Drogba. We need changes in January and the Summer but we also need the manager to start using substitutions properly and not for the sake of it.

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He took off Romeu because Wigan were playing so deep there was no need for a holding midfielder. Kalou may not be the best player in the league or indeed at the club but he is at least direct and willing to take people on. The change at half time was spot on. We played much better and took the lead. No use in just blaming all the players you don't like, at the end of the day Cech made a mistake, and it cost us 2 points. Chelsea decided to sit back and try to counter after the goal, which is why Mikel came on and it was not pretty to watch but was relatively effective and barring the chaos that followed Ivanovics' back-pass and the goal itself Wigan didn't threaten at all really. The Sturridge substitution was very odd (although I guess he was being rested for Thursday), but it is still unfair to blame Malouda for the fact we lost. Very frustrating, but big Petr let the side down today I am afraid to say.

Blue25

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I agree cechs mistake that cost the points not avb substitution

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17 Dec 2011 19:57:02
Terrible performance,awfull substitutions.Our thre most influential players this season brought off.Players trying to waste time even though there is 30 minutes left to play against a team what will probably go down this season.What a joke.We keep blaming the lack of creativity in midfield,when I think we need a world class striker.Torres is not going to rediscover his form if he's not even getting on in games.I do not believe we are building for the future because if we were the likes of drogba,lampard,Terry,bosingwa would not be getting a start.
Did any one expect Sturridge to be our best player thus season,because I never.So let's give Torres,Josh a start look at romeu another excellent player who is hungry for football.To much dead wood,we will be lucky if we get champions league football next year.We are missing at least 5 players and cannot go on making excuses.I would like us to invest in quality players in January.
Hazard,sneijder,would be great additions.
Team in jan:
Cech
Cole
Terry
Ivanovic
Luiz
Romeu
Hazard
Mata
Sneijder
Torres
Sturridge

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We need the energy of Ramires. 2day proved that.

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17 Dec 2011 19:51:46
I don't know about you lads but I have lost patience with AVB. He has been making the same mistakes far too many times.

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What mistakes would that be? substitutions? who else in the squad would he bring on? i dont agree with them, but what if he brought josh on and we drew? what if torres didnt score... again? AVB needs time, its because no manager since jose has been given time that we lack squad depth. go support citeh!

In AVB I Trust
Melbourne CFC

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17 Dec 2011 19:50:06
Chelsea need to get rid of Drogba , Lamps , Terry , cole not that they are past it but as personality they undermine the new boss , great servants to club but to move forward a clean slate is truly needed so many managers same old players

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17 Dec 2011 19:48:55
For me the worst performance of the season. Even in the games we lost we were much more of a threat in final third. Saying that though cech mistake was woeful and he makes too many these days. Substitutions were crap. Not looking forward to Thursday. Ramires has to be fit and hopefully luiz too. Ivanovic isn't a centre half. Something must of happened behind the scenes for Torres not to get any minutes in a game like this when drogba was so poor.

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QPr was pretty poor, and Leverkusen. Not forgetting away in Genk

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Don't forget the arsenal game wouldn't want to gofer anything

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17 Dec 2011 19:48:46
Poor.
Just Poor.
3 things AVB did wrong today:
1) Starting XI: Changed it from the last 3 wins and took away some of the pace and vision in the middle of the park. In my own opinion, the team should of been as follows:
Cech
Bosingwa Luiz Terry Cole
Romeu
Ramires Mereiles
Sturridge Torres Mata

2) Tactics: Slacked off after goal, lost all creativity and failed to address Moses skill and pace which punished us later.
3) Substitutions: Took off Romeu for Kalouless which exposed the back four, before taking off the main creative options of Mata and Sturridge replacing them with Obi Mikel who is simply not good enough for EPL and Malouda who looked disinterested. All the while Ramires and Torres sat twiddling thumbs when they would have both made a major difference tonight.
January buys are a necessity in my opinion, heres my ideal wishlist:
(Any two of) CB: G.Cahill, N.Subotic, D.Godin, C.Samba, M.Hummels, A. Rami
(1 of) RB/RWB: Azplicueta, G. Van Der Wiel.
(1/2 of) CAM/CM M.Goetze, PH.Ganso, C.Ericksen, N.Gaitan, S.Kagawa
(1 of)RW/LW: E.Hazard, D.Hoillet, M.Krasic, V.Moses, Pedro
(1/2 of) STR/CF: G. Higuain, E.Cavani, Neymar, A.Pato
Obviously won't all happen in January but, I feel we need all that to be dominant again.
In AVB we Trust!
CFCFOREVER!

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You do realise Luiz and Ramires were injured?

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^^ Here comes all the silly teamsheets/wishlists/pipedreams

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I dont think Torres wouldve made a major difference

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17 Dec 2011 19:32:18
So EDs what do think the main reason was for our dismal performance?

PR!

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You were playing Wigan.

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A V B

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17 Dec 2011 19:34:02
Fair play to Drogba for the return of 'form' previously, but for so long(over the years) he has been trying to do too much as an individual and keeps losing the ball, instead playing the simple pass! Torres HAS to be given game time, or come jan when Africans Cup comes along, the poor bloke is gonna be thrown in, not match fit, and get slaughtered if things don't go for him! Also, how many times will AVB bring on Mikel when we're winning, and end up conceding cos we become too negative!! BEST FORM OF DEFENCE IS TO ATTACK!!
So why does he keep doing this?

Cheers.

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17 Dec 2011 19:33:25
Oh dear Cech...

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17 Dec 2011 19:32:12
We got exactly what we deserved. Drogba was terrible all day. Went about as if he was on a Sunday stroll. Absolutely no effort. Torres must be really bad if he's not getting on in front off that. Mata off for Mikel. Sturridge off. What is AVB at. As I posted earlier those victories in the last 3 were only painting over the cracks and we are pretty poor. Couldn't even beat a bottom 3 team. They thought they just had to turn up and this is an indictment on the manager. He is the coach and the team are playing his way.

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17 Dec 2011 19:31:33
Another 2 points wasted tonight. AVB, again, started substistuting players as if we were winning 3-0. When is he going to stop blaming the players and the press and start looking at his tactics? {Ed002's Note - You don't think it was anything to do with Cech spilling the ball then?}

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Sorry Ed I have to disagree with you there. We should have been 3-0 up before Chech's mistake. You of all people should know that when you are 1-0 up you do not pretend the game is over.

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There were many mistakes tonight and AVB's substitutions were amongst the worst. to be honest were very lucky to get one goal

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17 Dec 2011 19:15:51
My quetion is what has Drogba done to consistently warrant his selection and keeping Torres off? He had a stellar game against Valencia and litteraly that is it. His effort is appalling at times. How many times can he live off that performance. I feel awful for Torres because avb is making him into a media rag doll. {Ed002's Note - Torres has been performing poorly. Drogba has been performing better.}

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Ed002. Drogba playing better. hard to see that. Torres hasn't been given any chance really since his sending off. 5 mins here and there. At least he might run about and put a bit of effort in which is all us fans want, put in a shift. Drogba hasn't. {Ed002's Note - Fine.}

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Other than drogba performance against Valencia he hasn't been that good.

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Ed you talk garbage and you try belittle posters , take your Rose tinted glasses off
Pal your more delusional then AVB {Ed002's Note - All day it is fine and the the trolls arrive.}

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17 Dec 2011 18:37:41
Soloman kalou. This has to be a joke.

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Ha ha, yes it was funny.

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17 Dec 2011 18:29:36
plz avb get torres on i feel a hat trick

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17 Dec 2011 18:18:16
Torres second half drogba has been poor first half

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17 Dec 2011 17:46:54
already getting frustrated with Meireles after 10 minutes. I think he's been great so far this season but from what i've seen so far i would love to see josh mceachran come on with plenty of time in a game like this. Dont get me wrong, im still a fan of Merireles but i do get quite frustrated at players quite easily!

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17 Dec 2011 17:18:35
Quite an attacking selection by Wigan so I expect goals. 4-1 to Chelsea. I was hoping Torres would have got a start tonight. I expect him to be playing in Jan when Drogba is away but how are we to expect him to be up to speed when he is only getting 5-10mins at the end of every game. AVB in a way backed him this week so lets give him some play time. {Ed002's Note - This is the eternal problem of trying to give someone who is not performing game time. The best to hope for would be perhaps a 2-0 lead after an hour and then bring him on. It is absolutely critical that Chelsea keep a clean sheet - otherwise my fantasy football team will drop further down the league.}

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Ed 002. Drogba has been average again. He is showing no enthusiam or putting in enough effort. He should be replaced at half time. Chelsea are moving the ball too slowly as usual and can't even create a clear opening against a bottom 3 team in 45mins. Get Torres on now and don't waste the victory over city by dropping pts here {Ed002's Note - It's only a game, don't worry about it so much.}

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Thanks. Taking your advise. Going to have a beer. {Ed002's Note - I may imbibe myself later.}

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17 Dec 2011 14:53:33
Chelsea Team at the start of Feb 2012

Cech

Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole

Romeu

Ramires Meireles

Sturridge Mata

Torres

Chelsea Team at the start of August 2012...

Cech

Ivanovic Luiz Terry Cole

Romeu

Ramires Moutinho

Sturridge Mata

Higuain

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17 Dec 2011 14:11:48
Hey Ed how are our loaned out players doing, I gabby seen much of kakuta, expect him to be sold. Are players like Bruma, Davila, Courtois doing well. And also any more news of moves for mceachran, could he be used for bait for players like Cahill {Ed002's Note - Kakuta has not been playing much; Bruma will likely not be returning; Davila has been playing in the reserves on loan as he settles; Courtois has done fine. There is nothing decided about loans but any thought of McEachran being used as bait for Cahill is press BS.}

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17 Dec 2011 14:28:00
any early news on the chelsea team for today?

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There will be 11 players stating the match. {Ed002's Note - Cech; Bosingwa, Ivanovic, Terry, Cole; Meireles, Romeu, Lampard; Sturridge, Drogba, Mata}

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17 Dec 2011 12:13:41
chelsea should copy my fifa 12 team

cech
ivanovic rolando terry cole
essien
ramires mountinho schweinsteiger mata
cavani

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My team is better cech luiz hummels terry cole mata eriksen goetze hazard torres neymar

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